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Lion-El - 'Your secret is safe with me, Kal-El'

Very good episode this week, with Lex and Lionel once again stealing the show. I cant believe how stupid Martha has been, after all Lionel has done to her and her family, why is she so willing to trust him?

Thankfully 'Cyborg' was nowhere near as annoying as Aquatwat, wouldn't mind seeing him pop up again in some future episodes. Such a shame we have to wait over a month to see Milton Fine return in episode 16 Frown


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martha is grieving and needs support 'lion-el' is well taking advantage. god the end was mind blowing but confirms what we already knew
 
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posted before i'd done - anyway him saying your secret is safe with me is a load of bull. i think he will keep using it to get martha where he wants her. in his bed ?????

the clana stuff was crap, can they end it soon? the storyline was good i liked victor (was that his name) but i dont think we will see him again. if he had any sense he would run a thousand miles with his girlfriend. the storyline was nothing compared to those words at the end though. the lex part didnt suprise me one bit although lana still thinks hes a good guy deep down

im going to die if its a month until episode 16 cant wait for james to return.
 
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Well i just posted in another thread about this episode, but obviously some people have also seen it. I would definitely agree that it was a great episode (especially for the Luthers) but the ending was just like damn. I think Lionel will keep the secret, at least from Lex and he probably won't tell martha that he knows either. And yeah this Clana BS is getting annoying as well, Clark needs to start making his move on Lois.
 
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Is it really a month until episode 16?
 
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Originally posted by High_Roller_300:
Is it really a month until episode 16?


Next ep is due early April


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Ok your right, its still annoying.
 
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it was annoying still is annoying and always will be annoying
 
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That would be the best episode ever.

When she died in Reckoning I was so hopeful that it was the end of her =(
 
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hahahaha.

Waay too many times.
 
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i would have rather she died and stayed dead
 
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we can still have hope that the writters will see sense
 
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is she?
 
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Lets start with the positives of the episode first.

Once again, Lionel proves he is by far the best character in this show, and it's a credit to John Glover that this is the case considering the limited screentime he is given. On the other hand, I think Lionel would lose some of his impact were he to appear more often.

The ins and outs of the blackmail story don't really make any sense and the term 'fudging the storyline' is most appropiate. Let's assume that Lionel was blackmailing Martha to gain her trust. In that case why did he show Jonathan the photo in episode 100 that caused his death? We could argue back and forth his intentions, but it comes down to bad scriptting and a lack of a stable framework on what the series arc should be.

Although the Cyborg character was no where as near annoying as Aquaman, but still not as good as Flash, the storyline was a little weak. So, it reinforced the idea that Lex is bad and does evil things without considering this. Don't we already know this? Do we constantly need reminding of this in case we forgot what happened in last weeks episode, like lots of the characters seem to do on numerous occasions. Alicia dying in season 4 is one such example, it's like she didn't exist the week after.

As to whether Lionel is in fact Jor-El, I don't think so but believe he has added the facts up to deduce that Clark is in fact Kal-El. If that was the case, why hasn't the body possession happened since 'Hidden,' i.e. when Lana/Jonathan died. Again, I go back to the series seeming to be written on a weekly basis with the writers having no idea of roughly where they are meant to be from week to week.

Anyone know why Clark referred to Lana as his 'girlfriend' when he chased Victor out of the hospital? Can we please have an end to this Clark-Lana pantomine that appears to be dragged out. Clark is now a man, and as such his schoolgirl crush should be over and he should be chasing Lois. They have a much better dynamic on screen and after 4 and a half seasons of the will they won't they **** with Clark and Lana enough is enough!!!

And now for the major moan. How long are we going to have to wait for episode 16? We've all read the spoiler, those who haven't look away now....
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Fine returns and uses Lex's obsession with the spaceship to try and release Zod.

Now the mention of Zod is awesome, especially after his brief appearance in 'Solitude' and Fine is returning is great, why are we waiting so long? I thought we already had had a mid season break? The UK screening is only 8 episdoes behind, and if we are waiting a month or more, these will almost overlap, which is rare. I can only go back to the lack of an overall framework, and changes to the story arc i.e. the character of Fine wasn't meant to be in any longer than 'Solitude' but the've changed the story to accomdate an expanded role for him. Certainly, I'm interested to see how he gets Lex to work with him after their conflicts, but I'm skeptical to say the least.


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thankyou for the spoiler - cheers!
 
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come on you guys lana we have been waiting for lana anc clark to get together since season 1 and now they are finally together you guys want to kill her! i think they make beautiful couple and she is the hottest thing in smallville!
From this episode i take it Lex fancies Lana then? well who can blame him!
 
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Gar - I definately think the writers planned more for Fine then what happened in Solitude, I mean he is Supermans greatest villian. Also Lionel showed Jonathan the photo to use his position as senator for his benefit. However now that Martha is the senator he used the blackmail so that Martha trusted him. With his main goal in having Martha wrapped around his finger.


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I don't think Lionel will try to abuse Martha's trust. He has too many feelings for her for that to be an option. I'd also disagree that Brainiac is Supermans greatest villian, if that were true he'd have been used in more adaptations than we have so far seen. Besides, Smallville is about Clark Kent, not Superman. The character and persona of Superman does not yet exist.


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how did i miss this thread Razz well my thoughts are on the other one i just posted


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Let's remember people, SUPERMAN's greatest villain is not Braniac, but indeed LEX LUTHOR. And I love how Lex is beginning to show his "dark side", even more so in this episode when he is in that lab, experimenting on Cyborg against his will.

For a minute I thought Lex was actually innocent in this one, then when I saw him come out of the shadows and talk to the scientist I was just shocked.. this was a great epsiode, not so much because of Cyborg's appearance, but because of how Lex's character is finally advancing into the "dark side" for once and for all...

And how he got the last word in when he left the room, with the "You can let yourself out now" shows that the stepping stone to the tearing in Clark and Lex's relationship has already been set, I just wonder what will happen to finaly push these two over the edge and cause for them to become arch rivals.
 
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Thankfully 'Cyborg' was nowhere near as annoying as Aquatwat, wouldn't mind seeing him pop up again in some future episodes.


i really like him as wellSmile

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but still not as good as Flash, the storyline was a little weak.


i didn't like the flash

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anyway him saying your secret is safe with me is a load of bull. i think he will keep using it to get martha where he wants her. in his bed ?????


how comes no-one know Jol-el take taken control of lionel hence reason why he trying help out his son after his father gone.

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Anyone know why Clark referred to Lana as his 'girlfriend' when he chased Victor out of the hospital?


did they break up?
 
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Anyone know why Clark referred to Lana as his 'girlfriend' when he chased Victor out of the hospital?


did they break up?



I thought they broke up in reckoning!

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not exactly -i think they still friends hoping for more
 
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they seemt o have broke up every episode then by the next one they are all loved up again -oh it makes me sick
 
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i already seen this episode so won't be watching monday E4 episode
 
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