I was reading the nominees and there were loads of great war movies not on the list. ah hem, ill begin... where is Pearl Harbour? one of the major events in ww2, and a stunning film. and where was U-571? I've never seen the film but when i heard they were doing a list of war films that one popped straight into my head. o and wasn't Forrest Gump a war film? and a fabulouse film all round!!! Last bt not least, the grand daddy of all war movies, the word WAR is even in the title so why it isn't on the nominees list i'll never no! STAR WARS!!! come on get that on the list they're the best films ever made!! i mean come on if TROY made the list Star Wars is certainly worthy. they may be made up wars but still wars!
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THE BLUE MAX
George Peppard, James Mason, Ursula Andress
Why has this film been left out? Is it because it is a WW1 film with a German perspective? Hollywood has ignored the WW1 Aviation genre shamefully in recent years, but the Blue Max easily is one the best war films ever made. The score by the late Jerry Goldsmith is one of the most stunning, energetic pieces of recent classical music written. SHAME ON YOU CH4!
There is a German film director who made Das Boot and Stalingrad. Stalingrad makes "Saving private ryan" look like handbags at 6 O'clock, a typical premeriship match.
There is another distrubing anti war film called The Savior, Natasha Kinski is in that film set around the Serb Croatian conflict.
Another profound war film is Graveyard of the Fireflies, Japanese animated war film. It is about the plight of two orphaned children, box of hankies is a prerequisite to accompany this movie.
Also The Last Valley, stars Micheal Caine set in the 30 years war. Haven't seem that film for years.
quote:Originally posted by The Blue Max: _THE BLUE MAX_
George Peppard, James Mason, Ursula Andress
Why has this film been left out? Is it because it is a WW1 film with a German perspective? Hollywood has ignored the WW1 Aviation genre shamefully in recent years, but the Blue Max easily is one the best war films ever made. The score by the late Jerry Goldsmith is one of the most stunning, energetic pieces of recent classical music written. SHAME ON YOU CH4!
It maybe because it is a bit flat, promises much because of its great cast but doesn't really deliver. They have included Cross of Iron which is from a German persective starring James Mason and Coburn.
quote:Originally posted by Jamesc: I was reading the nominees and there were loads of great war movies not on the list. ah hem, ill begin... where is Pearl Harbour? one of the major events in ww2, and a stunning film. and where was U-571? I've never seen the film but when i heard they were doing a list of war films that one popped straight into my head. o and wasn't Forrest Gump a war film? and a fabulouse film all round!!! Last bt not least, the grand daddy of all war movies, the word WAR is even in the title so why it isn't on the nominees list i'll never no! STAR WARS!!! come on get that on the list they're the best films ever made!! i mean come on if TROY made the list Star Wars is certainly worthy. they may be made up wars but still wars!
thank you please! xx
Pearl harbour is O.K. You mentioned U-571, thats a film were American pretends to get the Enigma machine before they even entered the War
Wasn't the Sound of Music and South Park technically a war film according to your premise
Saving Private Ryan - no contest. It had everything; and the closing sequence -where Ryan (Matt Damon) as an old man mourns at the grave of Captain Miller (Tom Hanks) was one of the most moving in the history of cinema. Incidentally, Omaha Beach didn't look like "handbags" to me. It certainly wasn't in real-life. And why was the waving of the Stars and Stripes at the end of the film dubious" (see review)?
Originally posted by M: Very pleased to see 'Welcome to Sarajevo' included in the list.
"A little grey, but I'm still...." "Still hot?" "Still hot, baby." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hey, look. "Esc-a-pay". Hey, it's spelled just like escape. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I shall call him Squishy, and he shall be mine, and he shall be my Squishy.
Yes, it is a good movie. From looking at the nominess, Come & See has to be the most harrowing.
Kelly's Heroes should defo be in the top 10 - Just for the mad genius of allowing a character who was clearly stuck in the wrong time. (I mean come on they had indian music and beatnik slang!) Kelly was in the war, oddball was mentally somehow stuck in woodstock.
Catch-22; For the character name alone - Yosarian, how cool is that!
"My father had a profound influence on me. He was a lunatic" *Meet the new boss...Same as the old boss*
Originally posted by Anthony Martin: Saving Private Ryan - no contest. It had everything; and the closing sequence -where Ryan (Matt Damon) as an old man mourns at the grave of Captain Miller (Tom Hanks) was one of the most moving in the history of cinema. Incidentally, Omaha Beach didn't look like "handbags" to me. It certainly wasn't in real-life. And why was the waving of the Stars and Stripes at the end of the film dubious" (see review)?
I was using hyperbole to compare with Stalingrad in its consistance anti war theme, plus it was merely an opinion as is yours.
My opinion is based on my own judgement of watching both films a number of times. My comment is based on the representation of both the films I mentioned in the post you are referring to.
It was not comment about the actual events. The casualty list and brutality of the Eastern Front in comparison to the West is staggeringly greater. The Film Stalingrad has a fair crack at highlighting this particular theatre of War
Originally posted by Anthony Martin: Saving Private Ryan - no contest. It had everything; and the closing sequence -where Ryan (Matt Damon) as an old man mourns at the grave of Captain Miller (Tom Hanks) was one of the most moving in the history of cinema. Incidentally, Omaha Beach didn't look like "handbags" to me. It certainly wasn't in real-life. And why was the waving of the Stars and Stripes at the end of the film dubious" (see review)?
I would not rate Saving Private Ryan number one on the following :-
While the start and end of the film are great, the middle is common or garden hollywood soul searching rubbish.
Best war films for me would start with San Demitrio Das Boot Ice Cold in Alex Angels One Five I would have included Dambusters but it has been hacked to pieces to make it politically correct...Guy Gibsons dog
Like many good war films, this could equally have been in "100 greatest tearjerkers"
Never mind - Channel 4's low opinion of its viewers' capacity for independent thought continues! What next - "The 100 greatest foreign language films as chosen by News of the World readers"?!?
I'd have to say that I'd put Savior on that list: arguably the best analysis of broiling, bloody brushfire wars and the role of both mercenaries and terror tactics to be made in cinematic history. It's a sickening film, which is a good thing - it intends to show the audience just what a horror war really is, and it does so with a strength of conviction you'll rarely find.
The Wild Geese, a much under-rated war film, I see is not included. But then we have romantic dramas such as Cold Mountain and Gone with the Wind, amongst others, that just use The American Civil War as a backdrop. Why their inclusion? Something for the girls? Please! I think C4 should stick to 100 greatest Rom-Coms and Chick Flicks and leave the more serious ones to BBC2.
