how could i forget the dogturd bmw.....or the scooby tribeca.....or the dame edna bangle bmw's and saab 95.....or the new gawdawful s class......aaarrghhh...does no one make attractive cars anymore....
Peugeot's current design direction can be kindly described as 'wayward', and unkindly, as 'suicidal'.
The whole clown's mouth grill is repulsive. Apparently its design is more sypmathetic pedestrian safety, which is undeniably true as the pedestrian will have run screaming to the hills long before contact is made.
The 207 is the worst looking small car currently on sale.
What with the looks of the range and that their brilliant chassis guru (106/205/309/405/406) retired some years ago..theyre stuffed, frankly. Hope the French taxpayers are ready to bail them out again.
Yes Sulphur man, you are absolutely right. All those cars you list, the 106/205/309/405 and 406, and lets add the 306 to that too because the XSI and GTI-6 versions were excellent in their day, were stylish, great to drive and had that special something about them. They were great to own.
Today's guppy-mouthed horrors are obnoxious.
The 207 is absolutely hideous in every way and i cant bear to look at it.
Pedestrian-friendly?? What are pedestrians doing walking in the road anyway??
Can Peugeot prove that there are less j-walking idiots killed today by their ugly new offerings than were killed by 205s??
What twaddle. This is a limp excuse for an R&D department which has gone in the wrong direction.
At least Citroen have the C4 and C6 which are proper Citroens - the C6 is like a modern-day CX and i love it.
Id have an old 205, 405 or 406 coupe over any of todays rubbish.
Have you noticed also how the drivers of Peugeot's hot hatches & fast saloons years ago used to be hirsute car enthusiasts who knew what they were doing, and the Peugeot they drove was seen as an intelligent choice for someone who loves driving, whereas today they are driven by old Doris and Ethel, or hopeless teenagers who havent got a clue and are texting/driving at the same time?
Unfortunately it is all true.. I really don't know what Peugeot think they're doing nowadays. The new corporate face is really very ugly and the pedestrian impact protection measures are far too harmful to the designs of the cars they're attached to.
My only hope is that Peugeot get a great new petrol engine line up out of this BMW-PSA partnership. Peugeot certainly need new petrol units.. That V6 for example is just no longer powerful enough.
Peugeot really need to improve the reliability of their products, in the 90s both Citroen and Peugeot weren't doing too bad. Citroens produce could be called boring. But the Xsara and ZX were hugely popular because they were reliable, cheap to run and easy to drive, with decent handling. In recent times the change to more modern electrics has come with quite a few problems.. the 307 is a nightmare. And as the Citroen C4 is based on the 307 I'm worried that its reliability record will suffer as well..
Couple the modern electrics with the fact that the cars are weighing significantly more but the horsepower from the engines isn't really going up and things are not looking good.
Still as Palmira said, Citroen are at least doing interesting things again. The C6 and C4 are lovely cars. Only problem I see with Citroens current range is pricing. Either they need to up quality and extras and keep the current pricing (C6 is lovely but it lacks many of the features executive buyers have come to expect, C1 is a great little car, but it lacks features compared to the Picanto and the likes). Or lower pricing and keep the same quality (If the C1 cost less it'd be far more popular than the Picanto, equally if the C6 was competing against Mondeos and BMW 3 series it'd be bought by the bucket load).
Build me a top of the range C6 diesel auto with lounge pack seats in black with black leather and add the following features its missing -
decent sat nav integrated ipod ability digital tv DAB radio voice control bluetooth phone rather than sim cooled seats front and rear nice dark windows so the sinister look is maintained
Price it at about 33k and i would be queuing up to buy one.
Originally posted by pantherd90: Ultimately my dislike of SUVs wins over. These are ugly like almost all other SUVs. The Citroen SUV looks very much like the Misubishi Outlander
That's because it's one of them joint venture thingeys.They'll all be built in Japan with the Outlander going on sale first.
Originally posted by biggbn: how could i forget the dogturd bmw.....or the scooby tribeca.....or the dame edna bangle bmw's and saab 95.....or the new gawdawful s class......aaarrghhh...does no one make attractive cars anymore....
Alfa Romeo; they make beautiful cars & they all look different too (but with a family look), unlike Aston Martin or Porsche who have a classic, then try make all their other cars look exactly the same.
Originally posted by Syntax Error: Alfa Romeo; they make beautiful cars & they all look different too (but with a family look), unlike Aston Martin or Porsche who have a classic, then try make all their other cars look exactly the same.
Peugeot don't even seem to be refining their design. They keep making bigger and bigger cars within each class (as does everyone for the usual inescapable reasons) but rather than finding new ideas, they just keep stretching the old look across another car, resultng in a bigger, uglier, even more gaping mess of car. The new 207 is a fine example of it.
Originally posted by biggbn: how could i forget the dogturd bmw.....or the scooby tribeca.....or the dame edna bangle bmw's and saab 95.....or the new gawdawful s class......aaarrghhh...does no one make attractive cars anymore....
Alfa Romeo; they make beautiful cars & they all look different too (but with a family look), unlike Aston Martin or Porsche who have a classic, then try make all their other cars look exactly the same.
alfa are nice but very derivative.....i think the brera and gt are lovely looking but a bit stumpy and fat assed.....
