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the first thing that impresses me believe it or not about this car is its economy and emissions.
38mpg and Band E road tax. the very same values for my vw lupo gti, a car much smaller and lighter (975kgs) and 125bhp vs 200bhp of the sirocco. amazing what technology they have developed to achieve this. or maybe its just a case of being able to cheat the offical testing system better over the years...


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It looks a nice car.

I feel sorry for Volvo: their C30 preceeded the Scirocco by over 2 years & offers the same thing that the VW will, but you know for a fact that the image obesessed will buy the VW in droves & ignore the excellent Volvo.


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i dont think they are comparable the c30 is heavier and 32mpg compared to 38 mpg and band F opposed to band E. performance is similar.


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I gather the like for like Golf GTI is a fair bit heavier and certainly would not cut through the air as well as a Scirocco so that would help economy - still very surprising it compares to your Lupo!

Are the figures you have seen for the DSG version? These are generally better on the emissions/economy tests - if your Lupo had this the comparison might be more like we expect.
 
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DSG versions are heavier than standard gearboxes. so less economic i would have thought.


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you think wrong -- there's a new lighter dsg7 out now too


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the DSG are heavier than the normal gearboxes so i would have thought the economy would be slightly worse..


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the DSG are heavier than the normal gearboxes so i would have thought the economy would be slightly worse..


I think the DSGs are indeed better on economy. Heavier they may be but the changes are quicker so the engine is wasting less energy between shifts........or something along those lines.


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....either way, DSG is unbelievably good.

More on-topic - I'm quite taken by the Scirocco, more so if they make an R36 4Motion with the ludicrous wheelarches from the Nurburgring special.

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ah yes i forgot about a potential higher performance version. yes that would be great, surely they will be making an R36 golf and sirocco.


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I believe an R36 Golf is planned as a run-out special for the end of current Mk V production.


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that would surprise me, would have thoght they would launch it as a new phase with the new golf and sirocco, like they have done with the new r36 passat.


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though having said that i just checked the passat is not a new model but part of the 05 range. so it fits the pattern if they do it for the golf run out, they are leaving it a bit late though..


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The Scirocco version will be called the R20 and they may be a more hardore R20-R.


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I think VW has lost it's marbles: The Scirocco will be CHEAPER than the Golf GTI in real terms! Eek

They may have sounded the death knell for the 3dr Golf GTI now!!! Eek


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