Impossible to do, with the vast array of choices but heres mine:
1) Honda Civic Type R - Fast, Excellent Handling, Vtech Engine, tuneable, the list is endless overall a typical japanese fast car.
2) VW Golf GTI - defiently not the best drive, speed or performance, but certainly a legend, it got the hot hatch market rolling.
3) Nissan Pulsar GTI-R - Not pretty but defenitly fast and fun. It proved hot hatches do not need to be pretty to be fast.
4) Lancia Delta Integrale - A rare sphisticated and cool raw hot hatch even though they rot away if not given tlc.
5) Daihatsu Charade GTI - Will always be loved by car enthusiaits for its cheeky looks, fun drive and individual image. A fanatstic rare car.
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VW Golf is only good now but is ridiculously expensive as for the BMW well is fails next to VW Golf and Ford Focus RS and is more expensive - besides 1 series has no character
Daihatsu Charade GTI are you lot taking the pure p**s, its absolutely terribler to look at, no no no no nooooo lol. I bet the slighest cross wind would blow it over, and as for spec, well
You cannot POSSIBLY call the 120d a Hot Hatch!!! It's sheer lunacy and dreaming.
It's not a performance car, it hasn't got performance handling, it hasn't got a performance engine (1, it's a Diesel, 2 it isn't fast in the slightest) it's too heavy and it hasn't got the chassis.
The only thing it has got is RWD, which doesn't mean much as 90% of the real Hot Hatches mentioned here are FWD.
Go away for a couple of days and come back to this rot.. honestly.
I am being driven to my wits end by having to drive a diesel for 3 days. It is a loan car from MB, an S320 CDI. When we spoke yesterday i was nursing my headache in Northampton and then when i got back to London i considered having a head massage to releive the stress of driving a noisy car with no power all day. I have to arrive outside the Dorchester today in it - i will be suitably embarrassed next to all the cars with proper engines.
So - 120d is NOT a hot hatch. It is a combine harvester.
YUK! there is nothing HOT about any diesel.
Even the fuel econ was cr*p. 34 mpg. I can get better than that from my E320 Petrol.
actually to save the embarrassment, ive just looked outside & my S320 petrol is back from heathrow. I think i will take that instead - at least it drives properly, goes properly and sounds like a proper car.
I think Palmy and Noxide need to actually drive a 120d with an open mind, otherwise their views carry less than substantial weight. I actually owned a 120d and it never stopped surprising me, as it was faster than i had imagined it would be and, in actual road conditions, saw off many so-called faster petrol cars. Noxide, it IS a fast car and the rwd set up is one i very much liked. I can assure you, that on more than one occasion, in the dry, i got rid of a Ford Focus RS, simply because time and again, the RS was unable to transmit the power and was torque-steering into the middle of next week, whilst i just moved smoothly away. I have owned a Focus RS and an Alfa 147 GTA and i know only too well how difficult they are to get the listed performance figures from. You under-estimate diesels badly, Noxide.
Originally posted by Dan1989: Daihatsu Charade GTI are you lot taking the pure p**s, its absolutely terribler to look at, no no no no nooooo lol. I bet the slighest cross wind would blow it over, and as for spec, well
BHP 97 MPH 107 Accel 9.4 to 60
Hardly hot hatch speeds eh
GTti, not GTI.
It is more powerful & much faster than those figures you quote.
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Clio Williams: I owned the 1.8 16v and that was fantastic, and it also got rated as one of the best hot hatches beside the 182 by Evo magazine I think which I agree with totally.
Honda CTR: Great all-round car, speed, handling styling its got it all.
Delta Integrale: One of my favourite looking cars of all time with the rally styling its awesome.
Pug 205 Mi16: In its standard 1.9 guise it's a great car and my mate has had many, but after seeing his Mi16 that is one amazingly fast car, saw off everything but an Imprezza STi who he kept up with.
Seat Ibiza Cupra R: Nice looking and plenty of go with so much tuning potential, 300BHP+ IHI turbo upgrade and you have a mental car.
Have to mention the Fabia vRS as I have one and they are cracking cars. No matter what people say about diesels, this is no slouch in standard form suprises alot of cars. Since having it tweaked it handles like a dream and has enough go in it to keep up with a CTR as I have found many a time and it's only cost me around £12500 including buying and tweaking. For that money you'd struggle to match it.
1. 205 Gti. 1.6 or 1.9 equally good, just different 2. Mk1 Golf Gti. Kicked it all off, without it there would be no hot hatches, probabaly. 3. Clio 182. Best of the recent truly pocket-sized rockets. 4. Clio Williams. Pity about the gold chav-tastic gold wheels. 5. 306 Gti. 205s bigger faster brother. 6. Civic Type-R. Took the bhp/£ to the next level. 7. Nissan Almera Gti. Cracking car only let down by its humdrum looks. 8. R5 GT Turbo. Fastest cornflake packet ever. 9. Fiat Uno Turbo. As per R5 but badly built by Italians rather than Frenchmen. 10. Lancia Integrale. Rally car for the road.
Couldn't keep it down to 5, too many to choose from. Hot hatches really 'float my boat'.
I had one of the first Peugeot 205 GTi 1.9 models, at the time it felt quick enough and looked good too. The French have made some great pocket-sized sporty cars.
Originally posted by Boundary!: I had one of the first Peugeot 205 GTi 1.9 models, at the time it felt quick enough and looked good too. The French have made some great pocket-sized sporty cars.
Good choice, although slightly too mainstream for me. It's a shame you remember your AX as being slower as it was.
Originally posted by Boundary!: I had one of the first Peugeot 205 GTi 1.9 models, at the time it felt quick enough and looked good too. The French have made some great pocket-sized sporty cars.
Good choice, although slightly too mainstream for me. It's a shame you remember your AX as being slower as it was.
mk2 16v gti with power steering is the best golf gti ever in my humble opinion.....till iv sold mine obviously, then il make somethin else the king......
