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montego was slightly slower version..same engine and dare i say, slightly more attractive styling...td montego was a honest old bus, quite quick for its day and frociously economical...in vdp spec with alloys and roofbars, it almost looked classy.......wait for it, wait for it....
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quote: Originally posted by biggbn:
..sorry should have been more specific..not stripes as such, but you could have one with viteese writ large up each flank in front of the rear arch at the end of a black fade to charcoalish decal that ran up the side of the car ....may have been a delete option, but it was definetely garish and totally eighties...i know, i'v been to see enough of 'em with a view to buying...not all vitesse were like this, so as i stated, it may have been an option, but the series one if you like? shape sd1 was always purer, being totally unadorned by either decals or aerodynamic addenda...again, only my opinion bro, but i like the original the best..you can maybe answer another of the questions from earlier...was the vitesse, as i always thought, only available in auto form as a special order car?..incidentally, vitesse was the second choice name for the big bruiser..it was to be called the rover rapide but am/lagonda wouldn't play ball, having owned the rights to this name for decades.....boo hoo....
Hi, Those decals were sometimes in the boot and if they were on the car the owner would ask for a "delete". Not sure about the Auto option - most were manuals but but almost as many autos came through and may well have been SO. The "mark ones" were cleaner in their appearance - but the twin plenums went like "s**t off a shovel"!shame they couldn't use Rapide as it would have suited the car better - Vitesse to me always sounds "french" (I think it means gear to them) |
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quote: Originally posted by Palmira:
They were horrible but fast.
School friend had one - when i had my XJ6. One evening we were going out somewhere & i pulled away in the Jaguar, and he pulled away in the MG Montego... The Jaguar wafted away like it always did - but his (much newer) MG Montego sheered all its driveshaft bolts which spattered across the road like ricocheting bullets, leaving the engine revving frantically. AA were called, got it towed to the dealer. 2 weeks later it burst into flames.
Sounds like you are a jinks to anyone with an MG or Rover as it seems that anyone within a hundred yards of you suffer dire consequences ! it is natural or do you use "black majic" ????? |
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I promise this will be the last on this subject but we were talking about the garishness of the 75 earlier in this thread.
Ive just walked past a hurt-your-eyes-blue ZT in the street outside here & it had spoilers & cheese-grater grille etc as usual... I stopped to have a look at the interior, and it had fake aluminum made of plastic around the gearshifter, and across the front of the dash, and the seats were very over-the-top bucket seat design, with half leather on the outers, and a mosaic of blue & yellow checks on the inside. Since when has THAT been tasteful? God it was awful...
Rover started building ugly cars when Honda tied in with them. Of course, Honda gave them the money to carry on, but the cars were ugly, slow 4-cylinder models which understeered. That ZT is the last in a long line of painful-looking cars.
Think of it this way - Victor Meldrew drove a Rover and then a Honda Ballade (Rover 200 from the 80s). Says it all really.
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quote: Originally posted by biggbn:
montego was slightly slower version..same engine and dare i say, slightly more attractive styling...td montego was a honest old bus, quite quick for its day and frociously economical...in vdp spec with alloys and roofbars, it almost looked classy.......wait for it, wait for it....
I nearly bought a Montego one day for a laugh. £100, full tax & MOT, not bad nick. The best bit was the paint - 2 tone - top navy blue, bottom Pooey brown. Top!!!
I live 4 cars me.....
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quote: Originally posted by khanie: quote: Originally posted by biggbn:
montego was slightly slower version..same engine and dare i say, slightly more attractive styling...td montego was a honest old bus, quite quick for its day and frociously economical...in vdp spec with alloys and roofbars, it almost looked classy.......wait for it, wait for it....
I nearly bought a Montego one day for a laugh. £100, full tax & MOT, not bad nick. The best bit was the paint - 2 tone - top navy blue, bottom Pooey brown. Top!!!
Haha thats excellent! It probably would have been funny for a few days but the laugh would soon wear off.. Friend of mine (the chap with the Volvo) had a nice car when he was a student, and didnt want to take it to his student house because it was in a rough area - so he bought a Rover 213 from an advert in the newsagent window for £75! It was an awful car & it was falling apart - eventually something fell on its roof & caved the entire roof in! Shame it didnt flatten the entire car |
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quote: Originally posted by Palmira:
I promise this will be the last on this subject but we were talking about the garishness of the 75 earlier in this thread.
Ive just walked past a hurt-your-eyes-blue ZT in the street outside here & it had spoilers & cheese-grater grille etc as usual... I stopped to have a look at the interior, and it had fake aluminum made of plastic around the gearshifter, and across the front of the dash, and the seats were very over-the-top bucket seat design, with half leather on the outers, and a mosaic of blue & yellow checks on the inside. Since when has THAT been tasteful? God it was awful...
Rover started building ugly cars when Honda tied in with them. Of course, Honda gave them the money to carry on, but the cars were ugly, slow 4-cylinder models which understeered. That ZT is the last in a long line of painful-looking cars.
Think of it this way - Victor Meldrew drove a Rover and then a Honda Ballade (Rover 200 from the 80s). Says it all really.
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Promised last post on the subject? - talking rubbish as usual then..
Maybe we should all just drive a dull grey car in case anybody else doesn't like them?
Funny but I often seemed to get held up by some doddery Meldrew type in a C or E class when I had a Rover 600ti - can't remember ever holding any Mercedes up though.
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quote: Originally posted by Roman:
Promised last post on the subject? - talking rubbish as usual then..
Maybe we should all just drive a dull grey car in case anybody else doesn't like them?
Funny but I often seemed to get held up by some doddery Meldrew type in a C or E class when I had a Rover 600ti - can't remember ever holding any Mercedes up though.
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mercedes is the default choice should you wish to buy a dull depenadable prestige car...it has been for years..the big engined ubersaloons are wondrous to behold, but the rest of the range has inherited the 'grey porridge' mantle held by the likes of..well, old rovers i suppose...dynamically dull, totally depenadable...i KNOW palmy will disagree, but these very qualitys are what makes em so ideal for various businesses, from taxis to chauffeurs and is why he is currently tryin to inject a bit of passion into his life by buying a car of induibatably lower build quality, potentially dubious reliabiliy, but undeniable class and charm...trying to buy something with personality to use as an antidote to his daily drudge in his soulless teuton...he wants an old jag....there must be hope for ya palmira......
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Might be getting somewhere with the Jaguar search biggbn... off to view that Sovereign V12 next week  Its got soggy carpets but theyre apparently not damaged - its where its been sitting around & the condensation has got at them. Have to see what its like but if its a good un i will have it. |
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quote: Originally posted by Palmira:
I promise this will be the last on this subject but we were talking about the garishness of the 75 earlier in this thread.
Ive just walked past a hurt-your-eyes-blue ZT in the street outside here & it had spoilers & cheese-grater grille etc as usual... I stopped to have a look at the interior, and it had fake aluminum made of plastic around the gearshifter, and across the front of the dash, and the seats were very over-the-top bucket seat design, with half leather on the outers, and a mosaic of blue & yellow checks on the inside. Since when has THAT been tasteful? God it was awful...
Rover started building ugly cars when Honda tied in with them. Of course, Honda gave them the money to carry on, but the cars were ugly, slow 4-cylinder models which understeered. That ZT is the last in a long line of painful-looking cars.
Think of it this way - Victor Meldrew drove a Rover and then a Honda Ballade (Rover 200 from the 80s). Says it all really.
I'm glad this will be your last as you clearly have no idea what you prattling on about. That car you descibe doesn't sound like factory spec and is probably the owners own interpretations as none of you description match factoy specifications and once again ZT's only had the option of a boot 'wing' which was only an option and they Never Never had any body kits "as usual"!! And as for the 'hurt your eyes blue' the only blue colours that were factory were Trophy Blue and Ignition Blue and neither hurt the eyes (but I suppose with your bigotted veiw anything not issued with a MB,BMW or Audi badge is going to hurt!)Just for your information the only model to have a 'body kit' was the ZS180 which was nessasary to cover the 7.5J x 17 rims and they had the option of a big boot wing but not the ZT ever OK???? As for the VM comment - most of the idiots I have met drive Volvos and Mercs !!! Also as I'm working in China all the idiots here are in BM's Mercs and Honda's and not R75's which have been sold in small numbers since last year and are much admired by the locals!!! Enough said !!! |
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Rover 600Ti was swift and very subtle and as such you should like it Palmira. When new it got some good reviews. However they did have issues with gearbox life in particular.
Obviously outdated now as it was lauched 10 years ago, so don't start comparing it to M3s etc!
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Jeez, I go away for a couple of days and come back to the same old same old. I can't beleive we can generate 7 pages of discussion on the Rover 75!
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..was just about to make same comment..however, it is the opiniated and polar opposite viewpoints on this thread that have made it such an entertaining one to re-read and contribute too...thats what forums are all about after all?..sometimes they drift off topic, but so what..if the threads provoke heated passionate debate, they will do for me..other forums have pages and pages on sat nav and trim options on modeos....i know what i prefer....some outspoken, well educated guys and gals contribute to 4car, and this is what makes the forum so interesting for me......
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Yeah, but there comes a point where the same old nonsense is posted in different threads - that's when it becomes boring.
I bet if I were to start a thread asking for advise on which car to spend if I had say £20K to spend, the same old crap would be posted. Imagine how newbies feel when they ask this very question, then it descends into chaos.
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yeah you are right mate..i sometimes read the same old repetitious claptrap posted in several threads and yet cant stop answering/correcting/making my point of view known...so mea culpa in that respect, cos my arguments are probably as repetitious as ones that provoke me...still, sometimes ya just got nothin else to do, its rainin outside and it kills a few hours baitng ze sherman fan club contingency...i must admit, many of my posts are deliberately provocative in order to provoke the heated debates and see how far some members will go to make a point....oh, and i love having the last word....
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..i do.....
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..no really, i do like the last word....ha ha
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quote: Originally posted by biggbn:
oh, and i love having the last word....
This could be a loooooong thread then!!  |
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and another thing... |
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I just like to argue......its fun thinking up educated waffle when one knows absolutely nothing about the subject.....you lot call it 'left-fielding?'
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I'm learning to love my old man car Can't wait to trade it in though 
٭▪ ~Wooty McWooters~▪٭
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quote: Originally posted by Palmira: quote: Originally posted by reason:
The Alfa 156 is a very fine car - attractive and a nice drive. But if you seriously think that it has a better reliability record than the 75/ZT then you really are living on a different planet - go and check the survey results.
As for lurid colour schemes. Well, that's down to the customer choice when they order the car from new - hardly a criticism of the manufacturer eh? I've seem some shocking banana yellow M3's and a Gaviscon-pink TT. Or how about the Polo Harlequin - that was pretty tastless so let's all slag off VW eh?
You won't find the ZT 'roly-poly'ing all over the place due to the tuning of the suspension.
Eugh good god yes wasnt that Harlequin awful?! However it wasnt competing with serious luxury cars. LOL @ Gaviscon-pink! This does astonish me that there are people willing to stick up for the old Rover. It should have rolled over & died years ago. Those 75s do roly-poly all over the place. I wasnt saying the 156 is reliable.. Its poor quality and typically italian but is stylish, and got a good badge with racing history, and is a desirable car... Although bad quality, it is better quality and less unreliable than the 75. I think the slightly poor quality is worth putting up with to have a good driving experience and a stylish car which makes you feel good when you see it in your driveway. The ghastly 75 or OTT ZT would make me very unhappy if i had to look at it or drive it!
More rediculous comments. If you do your research properly you will see the ZT/75 is far more reliable than an Alpha. Also youv"e obviously never driven one for more than a few yards or at all as you wouldn"t come out with such a silly remark as rolly polly suspension ( which was a BMW contribution). Those who slate the ZT/75 are narrowminded as it was built in conjuction with BMW & it uses several BMW parts like the diesel engine, sat-nav system, Z axle suspension, fuel pump (unreliable), locks etc. It is also a PROVEN FACT that the 75 has one of the best rides in levels of comfort of any car on the road! Like I say a proven fact.
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