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Originally posted by Roma:

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Originally posted by Firth carpets:
Get a van more praticle and not afrais dof bump*** it

LOL! A van would probably be faster as well.

Oi steady there!

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Originally posted by Bamford:
Just hit the ignore button Noxy, this idiot will never learn, even when olive branches are offered.
He has never had a decent car in his life, he is just bitter and jealous, that comes across in all his names.

How could you say that without reading what I have said?

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I just think that someone who is 50 should have settled down and drive something that is a little less... combover...mid-life crisis etc

I'm sure Bamford will find your concern touching....

I personally can't wait for my mid-life crisis, good excuse to splash out on a jolly decent car. Laugh at my thinning hair and chortle heartily at my middle-aged spread but I can assure you I won't be taking any notice. I'll be having a rare old time in my Porsche/Jag/Maserati leaving you and your smug, small-minded stereotypes to climb back behind the wheel of your mum's Micra and race home for din-dins.

Middle age: Bring ... it ... on.

Yeah wouldn't have money on an RS4 round a track.

Might be different on a slippery B-road though.

But none of thats the point.

Congrats on your purchase Bamford.

I doubt I'd be waking up in cold sweats worrying that one of the many jealous BMW bashers is politely suggesting that an RS4 may have been an alternative to your otherwise world-class motor.

Fao Noxious - The CSL is a bit of a joke really. BMW have sold "The Emperors New Clothes" to a few fools. Compared even to a stock M3, it is too noisy, shocking ride, horrible glass fibre seats, no air-con, no-stereo and plastic and cardboard galore in a failed attempt by BMW to match the 911 GT3.

Compare that to the faster and classier RS4 - more power, more torque, Quattro, dual climate control, BOSE sound system. Refined at any speed, it really shows the CSl up.

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Originally posted by Boig:

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I just think that someone who is 50 should have settled down and drive something that is a little less... combover...mid-life crisis etc

I'm sure Bamford will find your concern touching....

I personally can't wait for my mid-life crisis, good excuse to splash out on a jolly decent car. Laugh at my thinning hair and chortle heartily at my middle-aged spread but I can assure you I won't be taking any notice. I'll be having a rare old time in my Porsche/Jag/Maserati leaving you and your smug, small-minded stereotypes to climb back behind the wheel of your mum's Micra and race home for din-dins.

Middle age: Bring ... it ... on.

Thanks Boig, 'the forum bigot' hasn't a clue, as per usual.
Every single person bar Patsy UK has liked my latest choice of car. Especially those who have seen it in the flesh and more so those who have been out in it.
Even people who don't like BMWs like Noxide like it and respect it.

I will be honest here, i don't overly like being 49 years old, but let me tell you some upsides.
I insure a BMW M3 CSL for £795, fully comprehensive, with no-claims bonus protected and all the bells and whistles included like legal cover.
I am still doing half-marathons and am 11 stones exactly, hardly fat at 5 feet 10".
I work 3 hours per week.

Slightly better than dreaming about a DB9 or RS4 from my mum's basement like Patsy.

Who is Patsy?

And being 49, 11 stone and 5 ft 10" is nothing to brag about.

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I work 3 hours per week.

....A footballer, I knew it!

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Originally posted by B Greenaway:
Yeah wouldn't have money on an RS4 round a track.

Might be different on a slippery B-road though.

But none of thats the point.

Congrats on your purchase Bamford.

I doubt I'd be waking up in cold sweats worrying that one of the many jealous BMW bashers is politely suggesting that an RS4 may have been an alternative to your otherwise world-class motor.

Thanx, BG.
After 84 cars, most of them decent machinery, i like to think i have something to offer regarding cars and what they are like.

I AM always interested in constructive criticism of my cars though, any reasonable person should be open to fair debate.

However, Bakewell/Grip/Michaelmac/Patriot UK/etc is simply stinking with envy, every time anyone gets a car he can only dream of.
Which is everything from a Fiesta upwards it seems.

I know a guy with a new Porsche 997 turbo, a car i really want and cannot afford.
I would never dream of criticising his car purely through envy, to me he is a lucky fella and i wish him well with the beast.

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Originally posted by Bamford:
I will be honest here

As the saying goes, "There is a first time for everything".

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Originally posted by Bamford:
I work 3 hours per week.

To be fair, licking envelopes can hardly be called "work".

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Originally posted by Bamford:
I work 3 hours per week.

Surely that's a typo...

how many bmw m3 csl owners does it take to change a lightbulb???.....20.....one to change the lighbulb abd the other ninteen to constantly harp on about owning a bmw m3 csl...........

joke mm, joke....

I think the CSL is a great car, sure it has it's negatives, but then show me a car that does not have any.

It's certainly a car I would be pleased to own, even though for me (at this point in life) it would be pretty useless!!

Bamford - Did you previously own an M5?

You know I've never understood the point of taking a family saloon, over tuning the engine, changing suspension/brakes and ripping out various bits to save weight, and turn it into a track special.

Surely less of an engineering headache to start with something more built for performance and the track such as a 911, Honda NSX etc? Then it is unlikely to have too much weight in all the wrong places.

I reckon I'm in a minority but I've never been enthused by this whether its a Subaru or a BMW. Never had one though so maybe I'll change my mind if I ever do have soemthing like a CSL or a Legacy.

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Originally posted by kdgsayg:
I think the CSL is a great car, sure it has it's negatives, but then show me a car that does not have any.

It's certainly a car I would be pleased to own, even though for me (at this point in life) it would be pretty useless!!

Bamford - Did you previously own an M5?

No, a 535d M Sport.
Patsy had the M5 along with his DB9, Vanquish, Corvette LS7 and Fiesta ST and selection of Audis.

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Originally posted by sunsurfer:
You know I've never understood the point of taking a family saloon, over tuning the engine, changing suspension/brakes and ripping out various bits to save weight, and turn it into a track special.

Cos it's fun to scare three passengers rather than just one!

I don't really get the M3 CSL, there's no debate that it's a good car, but it seems kind of in no mans land. It's too focused, yet not focused enough.

It has huge impracticalities like the carboard boot and those insane tyres (which you can change in fairness), which seems to indicate its a proper, pure no-compromise stripped out road racer. Why then does it still have glass rear and side windows (even if they are thin)? or carpets? retain the standard dashboard? have rear seats? And wheres the rollcage?

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Originally posted by sunsurfer:
You know I've never understood the point of taking a family saloon, over tuning the engine, changing suspension/brakes and ripping out various bits to save weight, and turn it into a track special.

Surely less of an engineering headache to start with something more built for performance and the track such as a 911, Honda NSX etc? Then it is unlikely to have too much weight in all the wrong places.

I reckon I'm in a minority but I've never been enthused by this whether its a Subaru or a BMW. Never had one though so maybe I'll change my mind if I ever do have soemthing like a CSL or a Legacy.

Having owned an Evo 340 and the CSL, i can assure you driving them would make you realise their reason for being.

Crankcase, it is actually a perfect compromise between everyday ability and performance.
It draws the line exactly right imo, which is why i bought it.
Brilliant car.

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Originally posted by Bamford:
Crankcase, it is actually a perfect compromise between everyday ability and performance.
It draws the line exactly right imo, which is why i bought it.
Brilliant car.

Hey, if you can live with it, great! glad you're happy with it.

Personally, if I had to drive a car without a boot I could chuck lots of stuff in, It'd be a 2 seater. Caterham, MK1 MR2, Elise, etc. but each to their own.

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It has huge impracticalities like the carboard boot

I'd have thought that comes in quite handy on the 5th of November.

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Originally posted by biggbn:
how many bmw m3 csl owners does it take to change a lightbulb???.....20.....one to change the lighbulb abd the other ninteen to constantly harp on about owning a bmw m3 csl...........

Steady biggbn, you sound like the average 49 year old.

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Originally posted by crankcase:

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Originally posted by Bamford:
Crankcase, it is actually a perfect compromise between everyday ability and performance.
It draws the line exactly right imo, which is why i bought it.
Brilliant car.

Hey, if you can live with it, great! glad you're happy with it.

Personally, if I had to drive a car without a boot I could chuck lots of stuff in, It'd be a 2 seater. Caterham, MK1 MR2, Elise, etc. but each to their own.

Ah, but you see, many things about this car aren't that well known Crancs, i never knew a lot of them myself.

For example, the boot is huge with the rear seats folded forwards. No, you can't book extremely heavy items in, but you can put large items in. I already have done so too, although to be honest, i have a 2005 Honda CRV 2.2 turbo diesel if i want to play removal man!
(The weekly shop is fine.)

Also i expected an excuse for rear seats. Nope, the rear chairs are some of the very best i have seen in this kind of car.

I thought servicing would be EVO-style, 4500 mile intervals, but no, they are 10,000+ miles apart, although i always halve the recommended mileage on my cars and give them Mobil 1 or something just as good.

I have hankered after a caterham R400 for ages, but cannot afford a third car of that nature so i am compromising. I am shortly buying a car for £4000, purely for the track.
It has a daytime MOT only, an old Ford Capri engine (Pinto) and is nice and light. It is a Westfield from the early 1990s.
Probably getting it over new year in time to do some fettling for the season.

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Originally posted by crankcase:

Personally, if I had to drive a car without a boot I could chuck lots of stuff in, It'd be a 2 seater. Caterham, MK1 MR2, Elise, etc. but each to their own.

It is surprising how much you can get into a MK1 MR2. It has two boots although front one is more small squashy bags and nothing that is bothered getting hot from the radiator.