they can tune easy to 170bhp aswell. but you know my views on the fuel of course. i have to say as i own one, the lupo gti holds it value extremely well. dealers are selling 2005 models for only £700 less than new price.
....... There's got to be a hundred reasons why i should listen to diesel owners, but right now, i can't think of any.
no i bought mine 4 years old. but after nearly 2 years of owning it, dealers are selling them for the same price i bought mine from the dealer. so its had near 0% depreciation in 2 years. being so few gti available the market can be controlled but you do see some cheap ones that private owners have put up for sale just using the price guide, which is a big mistake for them lol.
....... There's got to be a hundred reasons why i should listen to diesel owners, but right now, i can't think of any.
Because there are any numer of hot petrol hot hatches. The Fabia vRS offers great economy, very good resale value and generally low running costs. You are missing the point of it.
Originally posted by Bamford: The Fabia vRS offers great economy, very good resale value and generally low running costs. You are missing the point of it.
A Mini Cooper D offers the same. It's just a diesel powered hatchback- it's about as hot as a glass of lemonade
You clearly haven't had much experience with one, then. 130 bhp as standard, with 230 lbs-ft. Lively, if driven correctly.
That can become an impressive 180/300, after a morning's work and £1,000. Yet the car will still average 40 mpg, even though it will stay with the likes of a Civic Type R.
If we were to criticise hot hatches for not being 'hot' enough, let's start with the new Civic Type R, which has but 198 bhp, for it's bulky weight, hardly impressive, even though i rate the new Honda quite highly overall.
Ah, but you see, most of the hot hatch makers have long-realised, that forced induction is a very good way of making decent power, with no loss of reliabilty or even fuel economy. Of course, natural aspiration has it's plus points. I have got over 500 bhp of natural aspiration in the BMW, but, at the same time, the 420 bhp of forced induction (XKR), which is still here (for now), has it's advantages over an engine which gets it's power from high rpm alone. That the Civic Type R is fractionally quicker around a track than some other HHs isn't relevant, when 99% of the time, 99% of HH owners are on the road. These cars are highly compromised for track use and are all pretty hopeless on a circuit. Even something like my M3 CSL was compromised when it came to track work.
To be honest the Furby is not so much hot as warm in standard form, rather like the standard MINI Cooper - but thats partly its charm - it doesn't look like a hot hatch, but with very little work in can be made into one - and its a hoot to drive.
Personally, Mr C, I don't want to hear a VTEC scream at 8000rpm, if I wanted something that revved that high I'd do it properly and get a motorbike that goes a lot higher - the Furby's power delivery suits me far better than having to work the gears all the time to keep the thing revving above 5k to get any power!
I don't honestly think that Skoda knew what they created when they released it - its got a bit of a cult following now and they are currently struggling a bit with its replacement!
As I'd rather have a more "understated" car if I went for that sort of vehicle I must admit that the Furby would be top of my list, thats one reason I would admire B's choice of the M5 - as he said its not "in your face" like some performance cars....
Originally posted by beach: i havent heard they are struggling with its replacement. the new vrs version is out this year i believe sometime.
They've been discussing this on the Briskoda site and someone "in the know" says they have - the new Fabia is taller than the old and same width - seems they've been struggling with the handling - it will be an insteresting comparison if they do bring out a 140tsi version....
They'll certainly sell 'em if they do continue with them....
