Following on form my last post I am looking to change my Alfa 147 to a more reliable option
I was considering the new Aygo but am now looking at C2s, however I see that in the 2005 JD survey Citroen came in 26th out of a possible 32 (Alfa being the 32nd of course).
Has anyone ever had a C2 or indeed a Citroen...do they have a bad reputation?
No no no! C1 and Aygo are the same car, C2 is totally different, based on same platform as the C3. 4Car seem to like it alright though, going by the 4 stars it got in the road test.
Yeah, you're right, was thinking of the C1. In which case I'd say forget the c2, it's pointless. For cheap and cheerful get a C1, for space look at the c3
Yeah I've had a bad Citroën, but that was one car built 19 years ago!
I'm trying to personally stick to a policy of only commenting on a car is good or bad IMO if and only if I've actually driven a fair bit in one or owned one.
So on that basis, if you want to know if it's a good car for you, only one real way to find out....
Wife had c3, very poor, in garage a lot, dealer very very poor. Her friend also had one same ...poor Got rid and bought Suzuki Swift better build and dealer back up and a much better car to drive
My old man has the multispace no probs what so ever touch wood.
thanks. I was looking at the C2 instead of the C1 as the C2 has the bigger engine (1.6 compared to the C1/Aygo 1.0 option) I did have a 106 for 1 year and a 306 which I had for 5 years and never had any hassles with either but Citroens don't seem to get a good write up going by some internet review sites
Originally posted by Pumpkin: thanks. I was looking at the C2 instead of the C1 as the C2 has the bigger engine (1.6 compared to the C1/Aygo 1.0 option) I did have a 106 for 1 year and a 306 which I had for 5 years and never had any hassles with either but Citroens don't seem to get a good write up going by some internet review sites
Peugeot/Citroen are one and the same - PSA The sad thing is, there's nothing in the current Peugeot or Citroen range that has quite the same charm as the 106 or 306. One car worth waiting for if you wanted a small car with a larger engine will be the Fiat Panda Sporting, I reckon it's gonna be an absolute hoot.
My advice would be to buy older but better, vehicles with a reputation for longevity. My daughter bought a Honda Integra 1.4 A/T on a G plate, with 35,000 miles for 3750 in 1994. The same vehicle is still running with 150,000 on the clock, in France. It may be a boring car, but it is reliability itself.
I would buy, 3 year old + Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Mitsubishi, or even Mercedes(should the budget go that far). Have it checked out and a good close inspection should indicate if it was loved or abused.
There are plenty of interesting models in the above ranges that will not be boring!!. Pick ups, Celica's, S2000, etc.
If you can afford the depreciation of new fine, if not buy solid unabused used. The savings and the fun will be much better.
Yeah if I was looking for a small car I'd be considering something Japanese like the Suzuki Swift which is bloody bargain - or if you can live with the looks, a Daihatsu Sirion. I think the Toyota Yaris & Mitsubishi Colt are worth considering too.
Originally posted by crankcase: One car worth waiting for if you wanted a small car with a larger engine will be the Fiat Panda Sporting, I reckon it's gonna be an absolute hoot.
A 1.3 Diesel passes for a "larger" engine these days??? Can someone tell the yanks....
Originally posted by MattW: Yeah if I was looking for a small car I'd be considering something Japanese like the Suzuki Swift which is bloody bargain - or if you can live with the looks, a Daihatsu Sirion. I think the Toyota Yaris & Mitsubishi Colt are worth considering too.
Problem with these cars are although I like the looks of the Swift I belive it only comes in a 3dr with the 1.3 engine and I really want something that, although small and reliable, will shift when I need it to. Same with the Yaris, all small engines. Maybe the car I want doesn't exist
I have always thought that Ford were not that great either when it comes to being reliable? My hubby owned a Focus ST, 2002 plate I believe, he had no ends of problems and the clutch died on him while crossing a dual carriageway! Need less to say he got it fixed under warranty and sold the damned thing.
Originally posted by Pumpkin: I have always thought that Ford were not that great either when it comes to being reliable? My hubby owned a Focus ST, 2002 plate I believe, he had no ends of problems and the clutch died on him while crossing a dual carriageway! Need less to say he got it fixed under warranty and sold the damned thing.
Clutch "died" or he killed it racing people? Speaking from experience dropping bits of 205 Cluth on to the dual carriageway here...
..hey, didn't even know they were bringing out a panda sporting...that should be a blast!!...i saw some pics of the new cinquecento with styling cues very much related to the original 500..looks typical italian cutesy with charm to spare...a joint venture with ford too...its new ka will be the same platform.....
Clutch "died" or he killed it racing people? Speaking from experience dropping bits of 205 Cluth on to the dual carriageway here... [/QUOTE]
Believe it or not no, he was crossing the lanes and was sitting stationary waiting to cross and the clutch just went, couldn't drive the car. He had to push it onto the grass verge, with help of passengers, in the middle of the carriageway and walk to work to call the dealership.
I could actually beat him at the lights with my 115bhp Alfa 147
Believe it or not no, he was crossing the lanes and was sitting stationary waiting to cross and the clutch just went, couldn't drive the car. He had to push it onto the grass verge, with help of passengers, in the middle of the carriageway and walk to work to call the dealership.
Bummer, if you're gonna kill a clutch its nice to do it a blaze of glory rather than maneuvering slowly. I was incredibly lucky, had just done a rather "enthusiastic" upchange, followed by that familiar burning smell, was going just over 60mph at the time so rolled along in the slow lane, lights were green at the roundabout (phew!) managed to take the first exit at the roundabout and coast into a car park only a few hundred yards from my local mechanics workshop!
Originally posted by Pumpkin: I have always thought that Ford were not that great either when it comes to being reliable? My hubby owned a Focus ST, 2002 plate I believe, he had no ends of problems and the clutch died on him while crossing a dual carriageway! Need less to say he got it fixed under warranty and sold the damned thing.
My dad has been a driving instructor for the best part of twenty years. He has only run Fiestas in that time, each one doing 100,000 miles or so in three years - that's about 700,000 miles in total.
In all that time and across every mark of Fiesta since the Mark 2 he has only suffered two faults which left him stranded - both clutch problems on an early model mk5.
I have owned three Ford Fiestas and a Focus. The first was 19 years old and the clutch went, the second was OK, the cambelt on the third went on the week it was due to be changed!
My mum has a Fiesta and has done for 15 years and my sister has had one for about 6 (she swapped a Citroeen AX for it as the AX was always in the garage!)
Our family has covered almost a million miles in these things and one thing we have not found them to be is unreliable. On the occasion they do require repairs the parts are cheap as chips and anyone can fix them.
Swift comes as a 5 door and 1.5 VVT, thats what wife uses for her Driving School, quiet quick enough as well. Lets put it this way I drive a Saab all week, love it to bits (No Probs if its not everybodies cup of tea and its Diesel). On weekend drive the swift, very good. Try one mate
I think the Toyota Yaris & Mitsubishi Colt are worth considering too. 
