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quote: Originally posted by Mr BC: Well done Massecco, you win, it is your thread and you appear to be able to get opposing posts removed at will, so well done you must be very proud, now back to the real world..............
Have a happy new year Mr BC 
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I have lived part=time in Turkey for nearly 4 years in rented accommodation. I was initially intending to buy out there but heard so many horror stories of people not being able to resell their property, that I decided against it.
Some people had bought villas with lovely views, only to have an apartment block built a few years later = blocking the view! Others had bought in a peaceful location - only to have thousands of new builds thrown up all around it after a few years or so.
But the most frightening aspect was how the properties DEPRECIATED in true value. Unless you sell it at a LOSS then your property is worth nothing if no one wants to buy it. I met many people who couldn't move because of this. Some people even went to the lengths of trying to Swap! And still there were no takers.
I'd never buy in Turkey. Where I live I've watched villas being thrown up as quick as anything.
And yes Turkey is expensive. Alcohol is dearer, meat, petrol, electrical goods, mobile phones, computers - internet providers.............and don't even get me started on health care!
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quote: Originally posted by mrphil: I have lived part=time in Turkey for nearly 4 years in rented accommodation. I was initially intending to buy out there but heard so many horror stories of people not being able to resell their property, that I decided against it.
Some people had bought villas with lovely views, only to have an apartment block built a few years later = blocking the view! Others had bought in a peaceful location - only to have thousands of new builds thrown up all around it after a few years or so.
But the most frightening aspect was how the properties DEPRECIATED in true value. Unless you sell it at a LOSS then your property is worth nothing if no one wants to buy it. I met many people who couldn't move because of this. Some people even went to the lengths of trying to Swap! And still there were no takers.
I'd never buy in Turkey. Where I live I've watched villas being thrown up as quick as anything.
And yes Turkey is expensive. Alcohol is dearer, meat, petrol, electrical goods, mobile phones, computers - internet providers.............and don't even get me started on health care!
There thounsands and thousands of apartments to rent in Turkey on the cheap. If one does not intend to move to Turket permanently, why buy there? There are millions of other way to waste money if this is one really wants.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by mrphil: I have lived part=time in Turkey But the most frightening aspect was how the properties DEPRECIATED in true value. I'd never buy in Turkey. Where I live I've watched villas being thrown up as quick as anything.
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With any investment I find there are 2 types of people:
Those that do thier homework
And those that dont.
Ive known an investor make a lot of money in Turkey but he only buys on the very best beach front developments.
Is the same story accross the world.
Get in early and do it right.
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How would you rate N. Cyprus then? it being part of turkey (at the moment) I am considering buying there as the prices are much lower than in the south. I know and respect the problems but I am thinking that if I buy a property which was TURKISH or FOREIGN pre 1974 then it should be safe. Any opinions?
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quote: Originally posted by a010454: How would you rate N. Cyprus then? it being part of turkey (at the moment) I am considering buying there as the prices are much lower than in the south. I know and respect the problems but I am thinking that if I buy a property which was TURKISH or FOREIGN pre 1974 then it should be safe. Any opinions?
Logic dictates there should be decent safe investments in N Cyprus. If you can find one I would think this would be a decent investment as log as its definitely cheaper than a Southern property. A barber I sometimes use is from the Northern capital and retains a home there. Even he got stung - he bought a property only to find out later that the seller sold him some of the garden that didnt belong to the property! As ever get the most expensive highly reputable lawyer u can find even if it costs you double.
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quote: Originally posted by masseco: Having just sold my property in Turkey, i think its wise people have a good read of this and beware the real pitfalls that await you in Turkey. I have just moved back after living there for 2 yrs and had an absolute nightmare with what went on. If you are going to buy in Turkey, work out what sort of purchase its going to be. 1) Investment- If its long term then fine, this is possibly the best way of going about things but what the future holds for Turkey i could not say. 2) Rental- Well to say its none existant is wrong, it does exist but its not widely available, unlike the UK where every agent will have a letting dept, there are none in Turkey. Why? Well because its a numbers game and once its sold its your responsibilty. I have seen Emlaks (estate agents) say yes there is a good market and then do nothing once they have handed over the keys. They are just simply lying to you!! On top of this there will be hotels where you have brought your property and these will be all-inclusive, so why would someone pay you £500pw and then flights on top and food and drinks for a family of 4 when they can all inclusive for sooooo much cheaper? The figures do not stack up! 3) Re-sale - So you have decided to buy and the property after 1 years ownership has 'risen' by 20%, so you think i will sell and buy something bigger, but why would someone buy yours when they can buy a new property with all appliances and choice of finish for the same price? Its just not going to sell. 4) Location - All british buyers are looking Didim/Altinkum for investing and to a lesser extent Alanya on the south coast. Alanya is now in serious problems, a friend told me over there that there are now over 30,000 unsold apartments in Alanya. Didim/Altinkum has a huge stock of properties that just simply will not sell, but you would understand if you went there, its a s*** hole! 5) Cost of living- What really suprises me is that everyone talks about Turkey being cheaper than the UK. I can tell you its about the same, infact the UK is cheaper on things like meat, alcohol and believe it or not fuel! Turkey is the second most expensive place in the world for petrol. 6) Crime- Please do not belive the stories of there being no crime over there, Didim/Altinkum is the capital of robberies and burglaries in Turkey, there are many many pickpockets that operate in and around the markets and they are looking only for Brits to rob. Turkey also has a lot guns floating around so do be careful. 7)EU Membership- This is the best of all, Turkey is so far from EU entry that for some of you reading this , it will not happen in your lifetime but i would say IF it happens then at least another 20 years would be feasible but only with a lot of restrictions in place. 8)Money- The currency in Turkey has had a volatile 12 months and if you are investing in Turkey, there is no constructor that wants to be paid in Lira, they only want Sterling. That says a lot about what they think of their own currency.
The point i am trying to make is that if you are looking at a quick buck stick your money in the bank, if you are looking at long term then go for an EU member stae like Bulgaria or even Cyprus but steer clear of these 'amazing offers' as its all a load of rubbish and its just Turkish constructors trying to get money from your pocket. Be careful as theer are a lot of nasty elemnts that are at work in Turkey and they only want money. I am more than happy to help anyone with any querries they may have as i was working in Real Estate in Turkey for 2 yrs and can give only impartial advice.
# Hi I have just returned from Turkey. I spent 4 days in the Bodrum area and Istanbul...I would be interested to hear your views investet in Istanbul or Bodrum. In istanbul i looked at an apartment 50 mins from the city, 20 mins from the airport, a 80 m2 1 bedroom apartment for £52 FGP,m completion time December 2008. In the Bodrum area, a little fishing village called TUZLA A 45m2 APARTMENT WITH GREAT sea VIEWs FOR £54 GBP,10 mins from airport, 20mins from bodrum and 5 mins from the proposed golf course... completion March 2008...any advice please?
where can i get simple and straight forward instructions in how to plumb in a bathroom and kitchen sink
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quote: Originally posted by philomena/2: ...any advice please?
Well, there *is* plenty of advice here - perhaps mostly not the sort you want to hear though  .
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Good fight - enjoyed that one. As you are all so knowledgeable about Turkey and I admit to knowing very little but would like to know more. Tell me more. What do you (any of you) make of a company called TULIP properties. I have one recomm but would never go on just that. More info from you sparring partners here and a visit from me later in the year might go some way to swaying me.
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I have a 2 bed 2 bath apartment in Akbuk, I am more than pleased with it. I primarily chose Akbuk (apart from the fact it is a stunningly beautiful place) because it is a lot quieter than Altinkum. I also felt that it would not get like Altinkum as it is bordered on 2 sides by Mountains and 1 side by the sea (obviously), making too much development either too expensive or impossible. For those that don't know Altinkum is flat, Bodrum is Mountainous and Akbuk is about 15 minutes drive South of Altinkum towards Bodrum and just running into the mountainous area. Hopefully for this reason Akbuk will stay smaller and less developed than Altinkum, and as a result property in Akbuk will be more sought after.
Whatever anyone says about Altinkum, it cannot be described as a s***hole, busy - yes, commercialised - yes, not to everyone's tastes - undoubtedly, but it is clean & well presented, a few UK 'resorts' could learn a thing or two from Altinkum.
There does seem to be an oversupply of new builds in Altinkum at the moment but I believe that the new Marina been built and the new motorway linking Bodrum airport - Altinkum will give Altinkum a new lease of life property wise when they are completed.
The new Marina, one of the largest in the Aegean with Berths for 300 yachts & dry dock for another 300, is due to be completed in 2009. It will also handle Ferries from 4? Greek Islands.
I am not aware of a completion date for the motorway linking Altinkum to Bodrum airport but some sections of it are already completed I am told. You should be able to get from the airport to Altinkum in 40 minutes. I normally fly into Izmir so don't travel this route.
There are also 3 new Golf courses planned, 1 near the new marina and 2 between Altinkum & Akbuk. Although the last I heard was that the Government had put these on 'hold' (as well as another 50+ projects throughout Turkey) as they were planned on Forest land and it was deemed detrimental to the environment. It may have changed now, my information is a couple of months old.
If the worst comes to the worst (which I don't believe it will) I have a great apartment in a beautiful place for my family and friends to use for holidays.
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