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English ST,

Have spend loads of time in California over last 10 years in LA, San Diego and touring round the state but my favourite city globally still has to be San Francisco!

I've certainly never felt threatened anywhere in California. If you like walking, Yosemite National Park and the Half Dome 12 hour round trip hike is something else! At 9,500ft you look down into the valley off an outcropped rock! Feels like your on top of the world!
 
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English ST,

Have spend loads of time in California over last 10 years in LA, San Diego and touring round the state but my favourite city globally still has to be San Francisco!

I've certainly never felt threatened anywhere in California. If you like walking, Yosemite National Park and the Half Dome 12 hour round trip hike is something else! At 9,500ft you look down into the valley off an outcropped rock! Feels like your on top of the world!
It sure does sound good, I'm abit worried about the Climate though, I'm not to keen on HOT Weather, other then that, how Expensive is it out there and wages and what not?
Thanks...


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San Fransisco hardly ever has really hot weather being pleasant all year round.

Obviously as you go further South down toward San Diego it certainly does get hotter and I've even been on the beach in San Diego in February/March on a good day!

Not sure about wages. My best mate who lives in San Fran works in IT and the wages are good though they do work you for it!

Real Estate is VERY expensive in San Fran though and over the last 10 years has been on a steep climbing curve. He was saying though they wonder if the bubble is about to burst as people find it harder and harder with the interest rate hikes that have been occuring.

My suggestion would be a two week trip in the summer to get a taste, theres loads to do so if nothing else you get a great holiday. If you are UK based suggest using Trailfinders as they are excellent and offer some of the best prices even against what you try to find on the net!

Did you get to Vancouver? Second favourite city I've been to in the world! They are also predicting it to be one of the next big hotspots as well!
 
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My line of work would involve IT, nah I never got to go to Vancouver, but I have been to Edmonton on many occasions (Winter time) I do plan on going to Vancouver though this year, probably November time for about 12 days or so, so I will check it out etc.

Besides that I will check out Trailfinders see whats what, other then that I appreicate your help TopperT, Thanks...


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If you enjoy four seasons then the northeastern part of the US is very nice. New England is beautiful although the winters are somewhat cold. Maine, Vermont and New Hampshire are really beautiful although the job market there is somewhat more limited than other areas. Further south along the eastern seaboard presents a lot more job opportunities. Anywhere from Massachusetts, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey and Pennsylvania are prime for job opportunities, not far from the ocean, relatively snowy winters, etc. Whatever you do I would advise either coast (avoid the midwest). The only exception in the interior in my opinion is Montana (great place in my opinion) or parts of Colorado. Good luck either way...
 
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Vancouver is beautiful. Voted one of the best cities to live in and retire to in the world. However I think its not exactly cheap at the moment, prices have risen consistently for the last few years.

However it is a pleasure, so scenic and people friendly (mostly). The weather is kinda like England though Im afraid, its notorious for rain !

I might end up somewhere around there one day.
 
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Yer... cheers for the advice and what not, my Fiance was brought up in Ohio, Brunswick I think she want's to either go somewhere in the North East of America althoguh from talkingt o her the other day she would prefer moving back to America over Canada lol, it's still a few years off though till weget this into action, but hopefully we can make it happen, cheers...


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Hi EnglishST

I too have been looking at the possibility of emigrating, specifically to Canada, and have done tonnes of research into what it takes to get there. I have also visted several cities and looked into loads of others too. Went to Toronto, Ottawa, Kingston and Montreal last summer (Ontario and Quebec).

Toronto is huge - a bit like a Canadian New York - with lots of concrete and traffic, but still had a really cool atmosphere. That's where most of the jobs are (mainly cos of its size). Check out Monster and Workopolis for job listings throughout Canada.

Kingston is a lot smaller (although it used to be the capital of Canada) and really friendly - not much in the way of work there though. Ottawa is the current capital and is a great city - lots of cool architecture and the outdoor market is fab (a bit like Covent Garden). There's the canal too, which freezes in winter and becomes the world's longest skating rink, and they have a festival with stalls all along the iced over canal. To work in Ottawa, I think the need for French would be greater as it has to be very politically correct (as it's the capital), and the emphasis is therefore much more on bilingualism, even though Quebec is the really French province.

Montreal was beautiful, but I somehow didn't feel at home there - that's not to say that you wouldn't, of course, but you really would need to speak French, plus the immigration rules are different for Quebec.

Throughout Southern Ontarioa and Quebec, winters are cooooold with temperatures down to -40c sometimes, and summers are warm with lots of sunshine. Note that on this Eastern side of Canada, the cold is much damper (so you tend to feel it more) than in the more Western provinces, where the cold is drier and therefore feels more comfortable.

I also visited Vancouver and Victoria, both of which are wonderful, but jobs are pretty scarce because everyone wants to live there. Property is also very expensive and the climate probably isn't what you're looking for as they're pretty wet and warm-ish in winter (not very much snow anyway).

Alberta is a pretty good bet at the moment as the oil industry is really booming there, so the economy is fantastic. House prices are low and there are plenty of jobs around. You already known Edmonton, but Calgary is another possibility. Bear in mind that Alberta is mostly very flat (as you'll have seen in Edmonton), apart from when you reach the Rockies which border Alberta and British Columbia. Calgary is about 1.5 hours drive from the mountains and Edmonton about 4 hours. The skiing once you get there is fantastic!

One other thing I would say to you about emigrating to Canada is to go to the Canadian Government Immigration website which can give you all the various options on how to gain permanent residency. I suspect you would apply through the skilled worker route which requires a certain number of points to pass. You can take the test to see what your points score is likely to be at this site. Bear in mind that applications for permanent residency from the UK to Canada are currently taking up to 4 years to process through London, so it's a long old wait at the moment. Also, you have to have a certain amount of money before they let you in (to support yourself when you get there), and the immigration process itself also costs a fair bit in fees (can't remembe exactly how much, but I think the website should tell you).

As an immigrant, it can be extremely difficult to find work in Canada if there aren't a shortage of people in your particular area. There is a lot of bureaucracy which stops people getting jobs (namely that employers don't like to take people without 'Canadian experience'). Also, many qualifications recognised in the UK are not recognised there, so you may have to re-qualify / re-train or get your current qualifications officially recognised in Canada. I am training to be a speech therapist and will have to jump through hoops to get licensed once I'm there! I have been on Canadian immigration forums where a lot of people have had serious trouble finding work, many of whom have come back to the UK, or are working in jobs far beneath their skills (i.e. people with Phd's working as cab drivers etc.) just to keep a roof over their heads.

If you do decide to go ahead, lots of luck! I haven't applied for my permanent residency as I'm sorting out my training for my career here first, but I hope to do so soon. Can't wait to move there as it is a wonderful country - just a shame that it takes such a lot to get in!

Sorry for such a long post - hope it's useful!

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Sorry for such a long post - hope it's useful!

Fliblet

Mate, I really appreciate this, THANKYOU, it was a really good read, in general though it seems from what you said the Visa process and what not will take a while, which I reckon I could get afairly quicker Visa etc. to go to America with being engaged to an American of 7 years (I'm sure that would help and speed up process) and she's of Dual Citizenship lol, besides that though I've got a few years to decide, so that help is appreicated alot, thanks for that Big Grin


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It took me approximately 12 roller coastering months to obtain my permanent residence card!

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