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Originally posted by iscreamloud:
BTW I'm glad to be back *passes McDean cocktails to all*

*hugs iscream*

Welcome back hun!!!!

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Originally posted by romcomqueen:
I think the reluctantness to hold JP or touch him was mainly to do with Craig worried about what the general public would think about it. He would be convinced they would know even if they didn't.

but that didnt make sense with everything that had happened post reveal... Craig and JP both seemed to go backward at the airport.. like with a lot of people that episode just felt wrong

I hate hate HATE that episode with a passion. Not only does it turn me into a blubbering pile of Natty, but it feels very very VERY wrong.



Oh and hello everyone!!
*grabs a cocktail from Rebecca*

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Originally posted by Maria01:

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Originally posted by romcomqueen:
I think the reluctantness to hold JP or touch him was mainly to do with Craig worried about what the general public would think about it. He would be convinced they would know even if they didn't.

but that didnt make sense with everything that had happened post reveal... Craig and JP both seemed to go backward at the airport.. like with a lot of people that episode just felt wrong

I hate hate HATE that episode with a passion. Not only does it turn me into a blubbering pile of Natty, but it feels very very VERY wrong.



Oh and hello everyone!!
*grabs a cocktail from Rebecca*

Hi Natty!

*agrees that was an awful episode*

Hey peeps, how is everybody?

You all heard this rumour on the board that EE is going to copy McDean with a new storyline they're having?

Also, when is JP back on our screens? Is it when we have this new man on the scene that he and Kris fight over?

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Originally posted by romcomqueen:
Hey peeps, how is everybody?

You all heard this rumour on the board that EE is going to copy McDean with a new storyline they're having?

Also, when is JP back on our screens? Is it when we have this new man on the scene that he and Kris fight over?

Oh yes, heard about the rumour re EE - don't think the EE actor is up to the challenge though.

No idea when JP is back - am on the verge of not bothering lol. It's all so daft atm.

I mean - remember last week when there was supposed to be that armed siege at the Dog? Everyone went over there except JP and priesty. Now don't you think that a priest might be needed in a situation where death is a very real possibility????? But no, he decides to stay and clear up after a fashion show that never was instead lol - that's clearly where he should be.

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Originally posted by AliCat07:

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Originally posted by romcomqueen:
Hey peeps, how is everybody?

You all heard this rumour on the board that EE is going to copy McDean with a new storyline they're having?

Also, when is JP back on our screens? Is it when we have this new man on the scene that he and Kris fight over?

Oh yes, heard about the rumour re EE - don't think the EE actor is up to the challenge though.

No idea when JP is back - am on the verge of not bothering lol. It's all so daft atm.

I mean - remember last week when there was supposed to be that armed siege at the Dog? Everyone went over there except JP and priesty. Now don't you think that a priest might be needed in a situation where death is a very real possibility????? But no, he decides to stay and clear up after a fashion show that never was instead lol - that's clearly where he should be.

ok thinking about it like that is well funny.

but hun if he had gone then he wouldnt have been able to get all kissy kissy with JP on that stage and then Nial would have no one to be evil too... and then perfect SE just wouldnt happen *maria continues to dream, and beg BK*

also you know how we have alien JP, we have a alien Priest (otherwise known as priesty)

his moto

*priest by name but not by nature* lol

I honestly don't know how long I can bear to carry on watching such daftness - OK it's laughable for a while, this whole 'Carry on Preaching' bit, but I'm starting to find it tedious as we jump from one implausible event to another.

Niall I do like, yes - but I mean where's the challenge for him?? How hard would it be for him to get the upper hand with such a bunch of half-wits??

The whole priesty story has been so badly done, I'm wondering if it's deliberate? Are we supposed to think that priesty is not a real priest - i mean, are any priests really that bad at their jobs??? (We've never actually seen him in church, but I put that down to HO not wanting to go to the expense of filming in a church lol.) I know that some priests do have affairs, but I'm sure they don't completely ignore their parishioners' spiritual needs as well and just keep helping themselves to more beer to blot out their incompetence lol???!!

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Originally posted by AliCat07:
I honestly don't know how long I can bear to carry on watching such daftness - OK it's laughable for a while, this whole 'Carry on Preaching' bit, but I'm starting to find it tedious as we jump from one implausible event to another.

Niall I do like, yes - but I mean where's the challenge for him?? How hard would it be for him to get the upper hand with such a bunch of half-wits??

The whole priesty story has been so badly done, I'm wondering if it's deliberate? Are we supposed to think that priesty is not a real priest - i mean, are any priests really that bad at their jobs??? (We've never actually seen him in church, but I put that down to HO not wanting to go to the expense of filming in a church lol.) I know that some priests do have affairs, but I'm sure they don't completely ignore their parishioners' spiritual needs as well and just keep helping themselves to more beer to blot out their incompetence lol???!!

you know am not buying this romour but there was talk whether Nial knows Kieron and this is some big plot

what you think

I just think that surely - albeit off-screeen - Myra would know from attending church herself if priesty was not for real - surely she would have seen him doing sermons / with other priests etc.

I also wonder though if the bad storyline could be deliberate if James has decided to leave. Do you remember the Beth Jordache story on Brookside from years ago - I remember then that Anna Friel decided to leave although the producers etc. didn't want her to go and weren't happy about it - so they gave her a real low-key exit that she wasn't at all happy about. I don't know - I'm just speculating.

It's just so weird how this storyline is so bad. There's no attention to detail at all.

I certainly think that it's part of Niall's revenge - but surely it deserved to be better thought through????

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Originally posted by AliCat07:
I just think that surely - albeit off-screeen - Myra would know from attending church herself if priesty was not for real - surely she would have seen him doing sermons / with other priests etc.

I also wonder though if the bad storyline could be deliberate if James has decided to leave. Do you remember the Beth Jordache story on Brookside from years ago - I remember then that Anna Friel decided to leave although the producers etc. didn't want her to go and weren't happy about it - so they gave her a real low-key exit that she wasn't at all happy about. I don't know - I'm just speculating.

It's just so weird how this storyline is so bad. There's no attention to detail at all.

I certainly think that it's part of Niall's revenge - but surely it deserved to be better thought through????

am assuming we get some explanation further down the line..

i mean JP has to talk about why another secret relationship is ok

doesnt he?

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Originally posted by Maria01:
am assuming we get some explanation further down the line..

i mean JP has to talk about why another secret relationship is ok

doesnt he?

I'd have thought that this would have been tackled earlier on, just to try and make the story believable.

I just don't think that JP would have an affair with a priest - yet he just seems spellbound by him and hasn't even stopped to give the priestly / secrecy element much consideration at all.

Then of course there are all the 'silly mistakes' re plot - like priesty not going to the siege etc.

The only real focus the scenes appear to have is to have James looking even more gorgeous than usual, and have him as partially clothed as possible. They seem to be going for the full-on eye candy approach, yet completely forgetting about the plot lol. I think they are trying to mesmerise us into forgetting that there should be a plot lol.

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Originally posted by AliCat07:

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Originally posted by Maria01:
am assuming we get some explanation further down the line..

i mean JP has to talk about why another secret relationship is ok

doesnt he?

I'd have thought that this would have been tackled earlier on, just to try and make the story believable.

I just don't think that JP would have an affair with a priest - yet he just seems spellbound by him and hasn't even stopped to give the priestly / secrecy element much consideration at all.

Then of course there are all the 'silly mistakes' re plot - like priesty not going to the siege etc.

The only real focus the scenes appear to have is to have James looking even more gorgeous than usual, and have him as partially clothed as possible. They seem to be going for the full-on eye candy approach, yet completely forgetting about the plot lol. I think they are trying to mesmerise us into forgetting that there should be a plot lol.

Yep i must say despite being a Craig kind of girl, John Paul has been looking quiet nice when his been on, maybe its that fake tan that Carmel gave him or the time off his had, lol

Well we have that Toby/Kriss/JP story line comming up wont go into it here as its in the spoilor section, maybe it will get tackled then, cause it has too if the priesty story is to stand any credibility, unless there going down the whole lust taking over thing..

who knows, i thought they would tackle kieron faith and JP growing up with this story line, which would have made it more credible and i would have enjoyed the actual story more, its not that i dont enjoy the story line in the the am shallow and well the two look hot way and how sweet and i am definately looking forward to Nial.

but like many the credibility of the story for me is lacking, with or without mcdean...

not sure if that made sense

When I first heard about the storyline, I must admit the 'priest - gay teenager' pairing made me think 'oh no, another soap cliche'. Also for HO, it came on the back of McDean which had already focussed heavily on confusion and secrecy. So yes I did roll my eyes at this point.

That said, McPriestcould have dealt with some 'meaty' issues - priesty faith and JP growing up / reflecting on his past / place within his family etc.

But we seem to have no clue as to why JP and priesty are acting the way they do. Both characters are acting in an unexpected way, yet there's been no explanation as to why. So yes, a definite lack of plausibility to start with. Then add in all the plot loop-holes, and the whole thing descends into daftness.

And now Kris is getting involved?? I don't know of that spoiler - but it is not sounding any good already lol.

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Originally posted by AliCat07:
When I first heard about the storyline, I must admit the 'priest - gay teenager' pairing made me think 'oh no, another soap cliche'. Also for HO, it came on the back of McDean which had already focussed heavily on confusion and secrecy. So yes I did roll my eyes at this point.

That said, McPriestcould have dealt with some 'meaty' issues - priesty faith and JP growing up / reflecting on his past / place within his family etc.

But we seem to have no clue as to why JP and priesty are acting the way they do. Both characters are acting in an unexpected way, yet there's been no explanation as to why. So yes, a definite lack of plausibility to start with. Then add in all the plot loop-holes, and the whole thing descends into daftness.

And now Kris is getting involved?? I don't know of that spoiler - but it is not sounding any good already lol.

i do think its a missed opertunity.. but i still think maybe they'll explain.. i do have faith in BK. the same way i think if SE can happen it will

Well ladies, I'm loving this discussion. I'm so glad I'm not the only person who thinks this storyline is so laughable. And if it is all done for the sake of Niall then I think that is just shameful. No storyline should be thought up just to help an even bigger storyline when it jeopardises the integrity of the character. And this has changed JP into a character who I just don't know anymore. And whoever said that JP and FK have no motivation is completely right. It's as though in the episode of the siege, everybody had to disappear to some big event in order for the pair to be left alone like the couldn't think up an actual plausible explanation for it. And while some of the acting was amazing in that episode from Darren, Jack, Frankie and dare I say the awful Louise, the scenes between JP and FK were put in for the whole purpose of not being taken seriously. It's as though it was meant to be laughed at.

I really hope they're aren't doing a Beth Jordache as you say, Ali. That would be awful.

I just feel instead that there is nothing holding me to the show anymore.

Me thinks we need to change this thread to 'Ranting about McPriest!' Lol!

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Originally posted by romcomqueen:
Me thinks we need to change this thread to 'Ranting about McPriest!' Lol!

am sure we will return to Mcdean at some point

fingers crossed

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Originally posted by romcomqueen:
Me thinks we need to change this thread to 'Ranting about McPriest!' Lol!

How about 'Carry on JP' lol. All we are seeing is a loosely strung together set of scenes devoid of plausability that seem to exist for the sole purpose of seeing JP either as naked as possible or dressed up looking lovely.

If Sid James or Kenneth Williams had not died, I'd expect them to appear at any moment.

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Originally posted by romcomqueen:
Well ladies, I'm loving this discussion. I'm so glad I'm not the only person who thinks this storyline is so laughable. And if it is all done for the sake of Niall then I think that is just shameful. No storyline should be thought up just to help an even bigger storyline when it jeopardises the integrity of the character. And this has changed JP into a character who I just don't know anymore. And whoever said that JP and FK have no motivation is completely right. It's as though in the episode of the siege, everybody had to disappear to some big event in order for the pair to be left alone like the couldn't think up an actual plausible explanation for it. And while some of the acting was amazing in that episode from Darren, Jack, Frankie and dare I say the awful Louise, the scenes between JP and FK were put in for the whole purpose of not being taken seriously. It's as though it was meant to be laughed at.

I just feel instead that there is nothing holding me to the show anymore.

*raises hand* It was me that questioned the motivations of JP and FK. For the plot to be taken the least bit seriously, we have to be told / shown why these people are behaving the way they are - it just makes no sense otherwise, as the behaviour on-screen is not what is expected from either character, yet bizarrely they continue blundering from one set of unexpected actions to another lol.

I agree that JP's integrity is well and truly being brought into question by this storyline - and have you had a chance to see the spoilers? I fear it's all going to get very much worse...

I just don't understand why the storyline is being treated so casually and with such little thought and attention to detail - I mean the Niall stuff so far has been very good. There was even the scene where he was trying to wash someone's phone number off his arm in front of Myra, which I thought was a subtle reference to Lady Macbeth and showed how the character is torn between being part of the McQueen family and yet wanting to destroy it.

So why is JP's story - even if it is part of Niall's revenge - getting such shoddy treatment?? Surely Niall's revenge would have been all the sweeter and more dramatic if the JP set-up had been better thought through??

I too am hanging by a thread with it all romcom. I definitely like Darren though - as yo