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Originally posted by miss lee:
Just coz he says it, doesn't mean he means it. I'm sure in someway he does "love" fk, but not in the way he loves Craig. Like he said to Hannah, he'll never love anyone like the way he loved Craig, he knows that so he is trying for second best.[QUOTE]


I dont know i disagree i mean i know first love is always strong and hard to forget but speaking from my own experience i know now that i love my current partner much much more and on a totally different level then i did my first love, even though at the time it was like nothing id ever felt before and it felt so amazing at the time. JP was younger and Craig was his first love so it would have seemed ike the strongest thing ever but maybe now he has had more experiences it is different...?
I know i rambled on a bit there but i hope evryone understands what im trying to say

i agree this can happen, but in this case where JP and Keiron havnt had a relationship or got to know each other and when only a couple of weeks ago he was talking about Craig .. in this case i dont believe Keiron is the one and if Craig was there JP would go back to him

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Originally posted by *SweetLikeChocolate*:
Dont get me wrong I like JP/K and being a McDeaner I know that we shouldn't get our hopes up about a SE but how can you say that Jp doesn't love Craig anymore - Hannah said that JP was still in love with his ex and he didn't exactly protest! - infact he did the exact opposite saying that no one will ever be Craig etc etc ....

But how do you know he was telling the truth when he was talking about Craig? He may have just been trying to convince himself that he still loves Craig more so that he had a reason to deny the fact he was falling in love with Kieron.

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Originally posted by Bailey Brat:

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Originally posted by *SweetLikeChocolate*:
Dont get me wrong I like JP/K and being a McDeaner I know that we shouldn't get our hopes up about a SE but how can you say that Jp doesn't love Craig anymore - Hannah said that JP was still in love with his ex and he didn't exactly protest! - infact he did the exact opposite saying that no one will ever be Craig etc etc ....

But how do you know he was telling the truth when he was talking about Craig? He may have just been trying to convince himself that he still loves Craig more so that he had a reason to deny the fact he was falling in love with Kieron.

because of one reason , he doesnt know Keiron, he lust for keiron but does know him.


Apart from what he said and is trying to convince himself to move on and as much as we can speculate whether the Sunset Ending is going to happen and whether his feeling for FK are actually deep, that a side;

Craig and John Paul where in love and will remain to have that love, when JP left Craig he didnt fall out of love with Craig and Craig didnt stop loving John Paul.

John Paul gave up because he didnt think Craig loved him enough as JP, not because he doesnt love Craig totally irrevesabily

the question was he alway knew Craig was worth it.. with Keiron he will try and convince himself it is more

dont get me wrong i am one of the few who want a SE but still likes Keiron, would love Jake Hendriks to stay itn the show but just away from JP as i dont think the love the chemistry or the motivation makes sence.

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Originally posted by Maria01:
dont get me wrong i am one of the few who want a SE but still likes Keiron, would love Jake Hendriks to stay itn the show but just away from JP as i dont think the love the chemistry or the motivation makes sence.

Can't promise I'll agree, but I'll think about what you've said, Maria.

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Originally posted by Bailey Brat:

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Originally posted by *SweetLikeChocolate*:
Dont get me wrong I like JP/K and being a McDeaner I know that we shouldn't get our hopes up about a SE but how can you say that Jp doesn't love Craig anymore - Hannah said that JP was still in love with his ex and he didn't exactly protest! - infact he did the exact opposite saying that no one will ever be Craig etc etc ....

But how do you know he was telling the truth when he was talking about Craig? He may have just been trying to convince himself that he still loves Craig more so that he had a reason to deny the fact he was falling in love with Kieron.

Good theory but JP has no reason whatsoever to lie to Hannah - they are very close and he knows he can trust her not to blab, that conversation they had was confidential. I dont think JP is trying to deny anything to himself, after all its him who ends up going after Kieron, and the only reason I think he does this is because he THINKS he's in love with him, he likes the idea that there is someone who adores and cares for him. I think that the bottom line is he is settling for second best because he doesn't want to run the risk of being alone.

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Originally posted by Bailey Brat:

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Originally posted by Maria01:
dont get me wrong i am one of the few who want a SE but still likes Keiron, would love Jake Hendriks to stay itn the show but just away from JP as i dont think the love the chemistry or the motivation makes sence.

Can't promise I'll agree, but I'll think about what you've said, Maria.

Thank you

If I truly thought McDean was over, then I wouldn't bother enduring McPriest lol! I'd just reminisce about McDean and not sit there cringing at this strange pairing on a regular basis lol!

There have been too many Craig references to be ignored, and BK, GB, and JS have all spoken positively about a 'sunset ending' for McDean, although taking care not to confirm or reject it - they are keeping us hanging on!

So here I am, still waiting ...

And yes I do wish it would hurry up!!!!

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Originally posted by Bailey Brat:

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Originally posted by *SweetLikeChocolate*:
Dont get me wrong I like JP/K and being a McDeaner I know that we shouldn't get our hopes up about a SE but how can you say that Jp doesn't love Craig anymore - Hannah said that JP was still in love with his ex and he didn't exactly protest! - infact he did the exact opposite saying that no one will ever be Craig etc etc ....

But how do you know he was telling the truth when he was talking about Craig? He may have just been trying to convince himself that he still loves Craig more so that he had a reason to deny the fact he was falling in love with Kieron.

Probably because that is the first time since Craig left that he has actually opened up about everything. And why convince himself that he still loves Craig if he doesn't? What you are saying doesn't make sense. He was having a heart-to-heart with Hannah. If he was worried about falling for Kieron then he would have mentioned that. The whole scene between him and Hannah was to show the motivation behind the character as we have been closed off from him of late.

Also, how could he possibly be in love with Kieron? He hardly knows him and said those very words himself when he turned Priesty down.

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I dont think JP is trying to deny anything to himself, after all its him who ends up going after Kieron, and the only reason I think he does this is because he THINKS he's in love with him, he likes the idea that there is someone who adores and cares for him. I think that the bottom line is he is settling for second best because he doesn't want to run the risk of being alone.

I agree with this theory SweetLikeChocolate. He doesn't want to be alone and he likes the fact that Kieron fancies him. Probably makes him feel better after everything that has happened recently.