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Originally posted by hollyoakschick:

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Hollychick

ever wondered as a character how keiron first reacted to finding out if he was Gay, was he so accepting i mean he is a priest he came from a religious back ground.

Would he at first have been just as big a coward/in denial as Craig if not worse (religious pressure)

now if Craig came back all grown up with out pressure would you not say he is more in tune with himself then Keiron.

Who is conflicted between a religion who tells him his preference is wrong and a boy who finally comes to terms with his sexuality?

Yea he probaly was a coward at the start
but he is not now!

Yea if Craig did cum back more grown up i would agree with u!
but its Craig cum on!!!!!!!!

We know it's Craig, but look how much in his last week he grow up. Ok, it only came out because of JP but once it was out there he acted mature and from the heart. I hope he has comtinuted to act and fell like this so he can come back as the man JP deserves.

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Originally posted by hollyoakschick:

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Hollychick

ever wondered as a character how keiron first reacted to finding out if he was Gay, was he so accepting i mean he is a priest he came from a religious back ground.

Would he at first have been just as big a coward/in denial as Craig if not worse (religious pressure)

now if Craig came back all grown up with out pressure would you not say he is more in tune with himself then Keiron.

Who is conflicted between a religion who tells him his preference is wrong and a boy who finally comes to terms with his sexuality?

Yea he probaly was a coward at the start
but he is not now!

Yea if Craig did cum back more grown up i would agree with u!
but its Craig cum on!!!!!!!!

Hiya Hollyoakchick

isnt Keiron a coward, he doesnt want people to know ... if he wasn't scared he wouldnt care what people think...


Yes he may as a character decide that once everyone finds out he will come clean... but coward/conflicted call it what you want. Keiron may be willing to accept his gay (well his had years of working it out) but is he willing to accept the stigma and the label, he knows people will judge and not take him seriously.

and maybe as a adult he comes to the decision quicker and is willing to choose JP but thats after everyone find out isnt it.


Craig i think as a character will surprise people when he comes back. To be honest if he comes back not sure of who he is and what he wants then there will be a few disappointed fans screaming at the scene. People want a Sunset ending not Craig comming back to mess with JP head lol.

I really do think for Craig as a character it was only john Paul - or at the most he likes girls and boys. and i really did think he loved Sarah not like John Paul. Hence i think that is what for Craig as a character things where more difficult.

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Originally posted by Maria01:

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Originally posted by hollyoakschick:

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Hollychick

ever wondered as a character how keiron first reacted to finding out if he was Gay, was he so accepting i mean he is a priest he came from a religious back ground.

Would he at first have been just as big a coward/in denial as Craig if not worse (religious pressure)

now if Craig came back all grown up with out pressure would you not say he is more in tune with himself then Keiron.

Who is conflicted between a religion who tells him his preference is wrong and a boy who finally comes to terms with his sexuality?

Yea he probaly was a coward at the start
but he is not now!

Yea if Craig did cum back more grown up i would agree with u!
but its Craig cum on!!!!!!!!

Hiya Hollyoakchick

isnt Keiron a coward, he doesnt want people to know ... if he wasn't scared he wouldnt care what people think...


Yes he may as a character decide that once everyone finds out he will come clean... but coward/conflicted call it what you want. Keiron may be willing to accept his gay (well his had years of working it out) but is he willing to accept the stigma and the label, he knows people will judge and not take him seriously.

and maybe as a adult he comes to the decision quicker and is willing to choose JP but thats after everyone find out isnt it.


Craig i think as a character will surprise people when he comes back. To be honest if he comes back not sure of who he is and what he wants then there will be a few disappointed fans screaming at the scene. People want a Sunset ending not Craig comming back to mess with JP head lol.

I really do think for Craig as a character it was only john Paul - or at the most he likes girls and boys. and i really did think he loved Sarah not like John Paul. Hence i think that is what for Craig as a character things where more difficult.

How is Kieron a coward? He doesn't want anyone to know he is gay as his career is on the line. He already knows what he is (he knew he was gay even when he was at school) Plus people look up to him and confess to him, they put there trust in him, which would be all over if they found out he was gay. Craig wasn't losing too much by telling poeple he was going with JP (Sarah doesn't count because he was going to leave her at some point or another for his TRUE love JP)
So how you all can call FK a coward but not Craig is beyond me. Craig just didn't want to face up to the fact that he was in love with another man.

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How is Kieron a coward? He doesn't want anyone to know he is gay as his career is on the line. He already knows what he is (he knew he was gay even when he was at school) Plus people look up to him and confess to him, they put there trust in him, which would be all over if they found out he was gay. Craig wasn't losing too much by telling poeple he was going with JP (Sarah doesn't count because he was going to leave her at some point or another for his TRUE love JP)
So how you all can call FK a coward but not Craig is beyond me. Craig just didn't want to face up to the fact that he was in love with another man.

thats what i was tring to say but did not no how to put it!

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Originally posted by hollyoakschick:

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How is Kieron a coward? He doesn't want anyone to know he is gay as his career is on the line. He already knows what he is (he knew he was gay even when he was at school) Plus people look up to him and confess to him, they put there trust in him, which would be all over if they found out he was gay. Craig wasn't losing too much by telling poeple he was going with JP (Sarah doesn't count because he was going to leave her at some point or another for his TRUE love JP)
So how you all can call FK a coward but not Craig is beyond me. Craig just didn't want to face up to the fact that he was in love with another man.

thats what i was tring to say but did not no how to put it!

Hi5 hollyoakschick

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Hey Stevie_Boy07


Call me Nikki!


xxx

So you guys think it's ok for priests to break there vows then?

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Originally posted by Stevie_Boy07:

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Originally posted by Maria01:

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Originally posted by hollyoakschick:

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Hollychick

ever wondered as a character how keiron first reacted to finding out if he was Gay, was he so accepting i mean he is a priest he came from a religious back ground.

Would he at first have been just as big a coward/in denial as Craig if not worse (religious pressure)

now if Craig came back all grown up with out pressure would you not say he is more in tune with himself then Keiron.

Who is conflicted between a religion who tells him his preference is wrong and a boy who finally comes to terms with his sexuality?

Yea he probaly was a coward at the start
but he is not now!

Yea if Craig did cum back more grown up i would agree with u!
but its Craig cum on!!!!!!!!

Hiya Hollyoakchick

isnt Keiron a coward, he doesnt want people to know ... if he wasn't scared he wouldnt care what people think...


Yes he may as a character decide that once everyone finds out he will come clean... but coward/conflicted call it what you want. Keiron may be willing to accept his gay (well his had years of working it out) but is he willing to accept the stigma and the label, he knows people will judge and not take him seriously.

and maybe as a adult he comes to the decision quicker and is willing to choose JP but thats after everyone find out isnt it.


Craig i think as a character will surprise people when he comes back. To be honest if he comes back not sure of who he is and what he wants then there will be a few disappointed fans screaming at the scene. People want a Sunset ending not Craig comming back to mess with JP head lol.

I really do think for Craig as a character it was only john Paul - or at the most he likes girls and boys. and i really did think he loved Sarah not like John Paul. Hence i think that is what for Craig as a character things where more difficult.

How is Kieron a coward? He doesn't want anyone to know he is gay as his career is on the line. He already knows what he is (he knew he was gay even when he was at school) Plus people look up to him and confess to him, they put there trust in him, which would be all over if they found out he was gay. Craig wasn't losing too much by telling poeple he was going with JP (Sarah doesn't count because he was going to leave her at some point or another for his TRUE love JP)
So how you all can call FK a coward but not Craig is beyond me. Craig just didn't want to face up to the fact that he was in love with another man.

Keiron chooses a career in which he cant be open....

his vocation makes him lie
his vocation makes him cheat
his vocation made him do that isnt it

if you cant blame a character blame the tool. Surely he should have left his vocation and turned to charity work or just not be a priest.. now that would have been the brave thing to do. or more so he could have said am Gay and been a gay priest and go with what that meant

i mean if his vocation had not asked him to be celebite and told him being Gay was wrong - he would be perfectly out in the open.

If he doesnt agree with his vocations beliefs and say for once (he did find it as a character to be open in school) then why go into the priest hood. to serve god of course who apparently doesnt like his lifestyle..

coward/conflicted which ever way you put it Keiron is not in a healty place if this was RL but then again it isnt RL and keirons past has not been explained has it

Craig was a teenager, his first teenage experiance, he freaked out... now shoot the boy for not being perfect lol.. come on think of all those teenagers scared about what being gay means the taunts, the judgments i mean if Keiron as a adult proud to be open worries about it, how can you deny a teenager to not be worried.

The world is full of more Craigs then there are John Pauls and Spikes arnt there.

damn this SL sure causes a lot of debate.. ive decided to go along with it lol, but that changes from day to day lol

There's that word again "teenager". Is it supposed to make Craig sound better...give him an excuse? he was an ADULT as well ya know....19

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There's that word again "teenager". Is it supposed to make Craig sound better...give him an excuse? he was an ADULT as well ya know....19

Yea!!!!!!! the last time i checked u r an adult when u hit 16!
He was an Adult as Stevie said!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by iscreamloud:
So you guys think it's ok for priests to break there vows then?

To be honest I don't a agree with the whole celibate thing Priests have to abide by. God should want his believers to be happy. If it's a case of love and your own happiness I know what I would do...wouldn't you do the same for the person you love?

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Originally posted by hollyoakschick:
*Returns Hi5 back!*

Hey Stevie_Boy07


Call me Nikki!


xxx

Sure will do. You can call me Steve

Cool! Steve!

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Originally posted by iscreamloud:
So you guys think it's ok for priests to break there vows then?

I don't think it fair that Priest should b celibate!
It not like Love/sex will affeci thier belief in god
now is it ???????

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Originally posted by Stevie_Boy07:
There's that word again "teenager". Is it supposed to make Craig sound better...give him an excuse? he was an ADULT as well ya know....19

lol am i allowed to say he was eighteen and turned nineteen (definately in his teens lol) just legal to have a Gay relationship or has that changed to sixteen.. cant keep up lol.

of course its a excuse, no different to Keirons excuse that he is a priest, the excuse is Keiron has had a chance to make his choices his decsion

for Craig it was his first experiance he freaked out .. he choose JP finally .. he tried to redeem himself, froze at a public display of affection ...

am not condoning Craigs behaviour just that it doesnt suprise him.

Ok i have defended Craigs actions as a character.

Now your turn lol

How do you justify, Keirons behaviour about lieing to the priesthood etc ....

do you think thats ok..

and please dont say he fell in love.. lol

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Originally posted by hollyoakschick:

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Originally posted by iscreamloud:
So you guys think it's ok for priests to break there vows then?

I don't think it fair that Priest should b celibate!
It not like Love/sex will affeci thier belief in god
now is it ???????

whether you think its fair, thats his faith, thats what he choose to uphold and honor. he made that decision .. his choosing to break it.

you can't swap and choose just when something takes your fancy now can you...

Keiron wasnt forced into the priesthood he decided to join.

if he didnt agree with it then he should have choosen to leave not jump into bed with a parishner or spend time in pub hanging around with students lol and then decide to leave cause well people found out and he does actually love JP. ----

i love this story line it makes me laugh and Jake H is hot, but that does not justify Keirons behaviour, the lies the cheatng does not make him a honorable person...

Maybe i am more willing to accept a teenagers first confussion then i am a grown mans struggle to cope with something he choose.

If craig came back still confused and not willing to accept JP then i would shoot him myself

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Originally posted by Maria01:

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Originally posted by Stevie_Boy07:
There's that word again "teenager". Is it supposed to make Craig sound better...give him an excuse? he was an ADULT as well ya know....19

lol am i allowed to say he was eighteen and turned nineteen (definately in his teens lol) just legal to have a Gay relationship or has that changed to sixteen.. cant keep up lol.

of course its a excuse, no different to Keirons excuse that he is a priest, the excuse is Keiron has had a chance to make his choices his decsion

for Craig it was his first experiance he freaked out .. he choose JP finally .. he tried to redeem himself, froze at a public display of affection ...

am not condoning Craigs behaviour just that it doesnt suprise him.

Ok i have defended Craigs actions as a character.

Now your turn lol

How do you justify, Keirons behaviour about lieing to the priesthood etc ....

do you think thats ok..

and please dont say he fell in love.. lol

Yeah it is 16 to have a Gay realationship LOL

You are right he did lie, all lies are wrong (even Craigs) but I know you told me not to say it but he is in Love. All he wants is happiness, what is what everyone wants. If I was in his possition I would have done exactly the same thing. So what if he lied he done it for his and JP's love and happiness, Craig lied to everybody in his life aswell (including JP at times)

Can i say Craig lied cause he loved JP as well lol..

you know what JP is one lucky character lol

would love to be him lol...

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Originally posted by Maria01:
Keiron wasnt forced into the priesthood he decided to join.

And now he's decided to leave. Yey!

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Originally posted by Stevie_Boy07:

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Originally posted by Maria01:
Keiron wasnt forced into the priesthood he decided to join.

And now he's decided to leave. Yey!

decided or forced to make a decsiion after Nial, Steph and Michaela found out lol..