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Originally posted by Cushty:
Exactly A lot of people Would react In that way It's Natural when you are hurt and angry you want to lash out

It's true. My brother was 30 when his girlfriend broke up with him (granted they'd been together for almost 15 years but still same rules of heartbreak apply) and he shouted, he cried. He hit things numerous times. His heart was broken, he couldn't control his emotions.

Feelings have to be let out, bottling them up will only cause more hurt and damage in the end.

oh dear, you are really comparing a school boy crush with a 15 yr relationship break up are you?

No, i'm comparing the reactions. Because at the end of the day, hearbreak is heartbreak. It doesn't matter if you've been with someone a month or a lifetime. When your heart is breaking, being torn into what feels like a million peices, it doesn't matter how old you are or how long you've been with the other person. People will still react in the same way.

oh dear god, if you believe that, you really will believe anything lol...

You realise you are being incredibly patronising don't you?

Look, i'm only 20 years old, but in that 20 years i've seen a hell of a lot more than most people will hope to see in a lifetime. Maybe that means i have a different perspective on things, but guess what, i'm allowed to. So don't laugh at or rubbish my opinions. I don't do it to yours.

you are one seriously paranoid person and seem to believe you are the only person in this world that was born into this world that had to deal with hard ships. suggestion - lose the massive chip on your shoulder, and stop hiding behind your hard life, for each horror story you bring to the table 100 others have an even worse one.
the world isnt black and white there are many shades of grey

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Originally posted by Marvellous1:
Woohooo! Rodmann, I now know who I can rely on to give some a reality check. It starts to get a little out of hand when people keep trying to justify this storyline with remote examples of real experiences as if they're only ones to be had. You and I seem to be one of the few that can see the rights and wrongs of what Becca and Justin are doing. Becca has not broken up with Justin for the sake of loyalty to Jake, that is what makes what she is doing so low. She is taking the easiest way out of a difficult situation. I have said from the beginning that if this "love" between Becca and Justin was so strong and so right, why did they not proclaim it to the world (I swear they nicked my posts andused it for Tony's script)? All the lying and deceiving has been easier than telling the truth. This and the fact that Becca now has a baby to think about has been the reason behind her decision. The alternative, is that she's exposed, loses her job, is labelled a disgrace, faces possible charges and looks forward to raising a child on her own. Becca could be honest with Jake and tell him she's not in love with him anymore (she'd be doing him a favour), Justin or no Justin. Either of these options seems worse than the truth, so Becca is going to keep lying.

I am still waiting for a shred of evidence that Justin is as ADULT as people are trying to make him out to be. He has had plenty of experiences but has reacted in an immature way every time. I have already outlined how. My point is, Justin doesn't know what he doesn't know as he hasn't really lived yet (this is the point Rodmann made about your outlook on life at 16 and how it changes between then and 30). Justin may be an adult in some senses at 16, but he is an adult that cannot drive, or buy alcohol, or vote. He hasn't been abroad with friends or had to worry about rent or taxes or how to support a partner and child. What right does Becca have to rush him into that before experiencing some of the other things I've mentioned? And not random person, but one she was entrusted to teach.

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Woohooo! Rodmann, I now know who I can rely on to give some a reality check. It starts to get a little out of hand when people keep trying to justify this storyline with remote examples of real experiences as if they're only ones to be had. You and I seem to be one of the few that can see the rights and wrongs of what Becca and Justin are doing. Becca has not broken up with Justin for the sake of loyalty to Jake, that is what makes what she is doing so low. She is taking the easiest way out of a difficult situation. I have said from the beginning that if this "love" between Becca and Justin was so strong and so right, why did they not proclaim it to the world (I swear they nicked my posts andused it for Tony's script)? All the lying and deceiving has been easier than telling the truth. This and the fact that Becca now has a baby to think about has been the reason behind her decision. The alternative, is that she's exposed, loses her job, is labelled a disgrace, faces possible charges and looks forward to raising a child on her own. Becca could be honest with Jake and tell him she's not in love with him anymore (she'd be doing him a favour), Justin or no Justin. Either of these options seems worse than the truth, so Becca is going to keep lying.

I am still waiting for a shred of evidence that Justin is as ADULT as people are trying to make him out to be. He has had plenty of experiences but has reacted in an immature way every time. I have already outlined how. My point is, Justin doesn't know what he doesn't know as he hasn't really lived yet (this is the point Rodmann made about your outlook on life at 16 and how it changes between then and 30). Justin may be an adult in some senses at 16, but he is an adult that cannot drive, or buy alcohol, or vote. He hasn't been abroad with friends or had to worry about rent or taxes or how to support a partner and child. What right does Becca have to rush him into that before experiencing some of the other things I've mentioned? And not random person, but one she was entrusted to teach.

Sorry to disappouint, but in order to have been given a reality check i would have to buy into the stuff she's spouting and i don't.

I may only be giving an opinion but so is she. And mine isn't going to change, no matter what rodmann, you or anyone else says. And my opinions are perfectly valid, as are rodmann's. I personally just don't believe what she does.

As for your outlook in life changing between 16 and 30. It changes all the time. Something happens and your perspective changes. Your outlook on life can change between 20 and 21, 30 and 32. Things always happen and always change our perspective, doesn't make a person't feelings at any stage in their life less valid.

That's my biggest annoyance here, you're rubbishing the validity of someone's feelings and emotions andnobody has the right to do that. If it wasn't fiction but you read about it in the paper you'd probably say the same thing, and that's not something you have a right to do because those feelings don't belong to you, you don't know what they are.

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Wow, lots of strong views on here, think I'll stay out of it lol

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Jo2005, if you took the time to actually read what I have written you would see that I'm not rubbishing people's supposed feelings. I'm seeing the truth behind a fictional situation which you and others sometimes refuse to do. I don;t think that the characters' feelings are invalid, but I don't let what they feel blind me how wrong it is in so many ways. Rodmann was so right in pointing how "love" is a word bandied about when people feel lust, when they're obsessed or when they they see something that takes their fancy. When people call Jake "boring" or "a drip", is that not rubbishing the kind of love he has for Becca? The kind of love that makes you devoted to another, that makes you put them and their needs first. The kind of love that leads you to accept a person for all their imperfections, or not keep secrets. These forms of love may be boring to some but that doesn't mean they should be rubbished. I have only merely stated facts about both Justin and Becca which go deeper than a secret love affair and they can't be disputed. Have all the opinions you want, but you can't make an affair, right. You can't make all the deception right and you can't make the inpropriety right. The feeling could be real enough but there are always choices in life and Becca and Justin had different ones they could have made. The would have been difficult (ending it ages ago or telling the truth and being a couple) but they could have been done. They chose to keep lying and cheating. THAT to me, is rubbishing feelings more than I ever could.

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am not sure but noin hollyoaks it probly is justis hope it is coz it wud make a gr8 story line


i love chris fountain

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does anyone see my point?