so what did everyone think of it then? the parent's coming should be better don't you think?.

so no one watched it then,that's a shame

I couldn't believe how bad the mother of that poor lad was. No wonder that poor boy is screwed up. She's completely mad.

Agreed. She and her *new* partner couldn't wait to off-load him on somebody else.

And calling in the police because he threw a vacuum cleaner down the stairs - how mad is that?

They must have *really* loved their Dyson!

Foreign input

Perhaps one of your TV-channels should buy the program-serie called "The teenager test" from Denmark.

In this serie a family has aggreed to be recorded for some time and the some professionel actors stage certain scenes for the family showing them how their problems looks from the outside.

A couple experts then analyze and tell the familiy how to dismantle the situation and the parents how they can prevent it from getting out of hand. Often it is the parents that have the solution by changing their own apperence and approach.

In a way I am glad that round 4 of brat camp forces the parents together with their child during the ordeal. Perhaps then they can get tools to handle everyday problems when they return to a normal society.

You can not understand an isolated enviroment until yourself have been there.

from last night's show some of the mothers were also acting like brat's,so in a way it's no wonder the daughter's act how they are,i don't know their names,but ben's mum,grrrr who does she think she is? breaking the rules so easily and she didn't even think about getting ben better when she wanted to quit,just cos she couldn't talk to her other sons on the phone,then there's the other woman that didn't want to go on a hike with her daugher,she whinged that she wanted to be with her hub,no wonder the daughter is a brat if the mum would choose the husband over her daughter.

Poor Ben. An over bearing mother that is on the edge of being psychotic and a step father that hardly speaks. I guess that he must feel isolated from his mothers new family. I hope they stick it out for Ben's sake. Sadly I think that is unlikely. She is too selfish for that.
Can't wait for next week. Great TV!

The reactions towards the show, you all states, had made me think.

What about the parents from the first three rounds?

It seems that the whole conclusion was that is was the teens that had to change. Could it be that we the other three years had made those poor teen undergo terrible ordeals, when it all came as an reaction from a domestic problem with more than one problem issue?

After all, it takes two to tango!

the parent's are there,so can be get along with their kids better and restore their relationship's again,i think some of the parent's are acting like brat's also.

In defense of all of the "brats" from series 1 to the current with the adults, you can bitch as much as you like, but at the end of the day, the majority of you people haven't a clue just how much pressure you are under while you are out there, remember also the camera MANIPULATES when going through editing, and also a lot you see didn't happen when it was actually did. You need to sypathize with these people, they have done something courageous, not wrong.

Thanks.

no one has biTched about the brat's yet,but as this is a open forum and we all have different view's on this programme are we not allowed to biTch about any of them?.

wow , righteous ! freedom of speench argument required ? non .


good and bad is shown on all brats .
we get not just them walking off etc , but them making fires (structured) , them making pogress with parents , them suceediung the rope thing and their letters .

because we get both good and bad of them we can of course talk about them freely without saying c4 munipulated them or that if someone has a bad view they are being b*tchy .

why should we sympathise with them ? rather than way up fact and opinion ? would not sympathizing sway the conversations ?

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Originally posted by poppyo:
In defense of all of the "brats" from series 1 to the current with the adults, you can bitch as much as you like, but at the end of the day, the majority of you people haven't a clue just how much pressure you are under while you are out there, remember also the camera MANIPULATES when going through editing, and also a lot you see didn't happen when it was actually did. You need to sypathize with these people, they have done something courageous, not wrong.

Thanks.

I think that season four made the public aware of the truth. A child being bratish is about lack of communication.

Having worked with veterans from our army, I have learned that it sometimes work to isolate the problem and remove outside disturbing factors.

That means that you as a parent have to remove yourself and your child from phones, televisions in generally and go to a place where you can talk for an unlimited time until the problem is worked through.

As a parent you also have to acknowledge that a teenager is not a grown-up. There should be a label printed on the head of a teenager with the text: "CLOSED DUE TO CONSTRUCTION" It is not a criticism, it is a biologically fact that the human brain is fully developed at an age of about 21.

Until that point, it is the long term consequences of an action, the teenager can not figure out.

So, Poppyo

I have noot seen a problem-teenager in the series. I have seen a problem-solution.

I know more about Channel 4's brat camp than any of you do, unless of course you either worked on the project or featured in it, which I highly doubt in the specific conversation.
ALSO I am only 16 and I feel that I am pretty matured for my age due to past experiences.
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erm ok poppy,but this is a tv programme on a forum,are you saying we are not allowed to say anything negative in here?,just cos you have been on a programme doesn't mean we can't say our views on it,does it?.

i am not having a go at you poppy i just don't know why you feel you have to say what u just did,we are only watching it,and you were on it,of course you know what it was like but we don't so we only see one point of view,

just because youve been on it doesnt make your views on it more valid .

and everyone has past experiences .

anyone can feel more mature for one reason or other .

i would have thought a lot more people would have been in here talking about the programme

i was shocked that she said shed been assalted , what a horrid lie