This series of brat camp all of the kids seem to be from relatively affluent and privileged backgrounds.
Is it not just a question of over indulgence rather than real 'problems'?
Having watched the first episode I'm inclined to think that if the parents had not put up with the anti-social behaviours in the first place........
Maybe I'm being a little old and naive but thinking back to my own teens my parents would have tanned my backside. I just wouldn't have dared. Not so much scared, just more respect for my elders.
Yeah most of them were pretty spoiled. The only one i actually felt sorry for was (can't remember her name!) but she went to boarding school. Being sent away to boarding school would be enough to mess me up- i think i would feel quite rejected.
i think alot of kids problems can be down to parenting, like that mum on the prog who was cowering away from her daughter while she raged! a parent should never cower from its child.
i think the problem is that someparents think that if they enforce rules and boundaries, that their kids will hate them/ when the kids say 'i hate you' that they actually mean it, parents need to toughen up, my son will not get away with behaviour like that, at 4 yrs he is starting to push the limits to see what he can get away with and if i let him do what he wants all the time, in 10 years it will be me sending him to a brat camp, i say no, he says it isnt fair has a sulk and gets over it!
I think being addicted to cannabis,ecstasy,and speed and habitually self-harming and being bullied would be classed as having 'real problems' wouldn't you ? I don't see how any of these can be created by overindulgence ?
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Originally posted by scruffytigger: This series of brat camp all of the kids seem to be from relatively affluent and privileged backgrounds.
Is it not just a question of over indulgence rather than real 'problems'?
Having watched the first episode I'm inclined to think that if the parents had not put up with the anti-social behaviours in the first place........
Maybe I'm being a little old and naive but thinking back to my own teens my parents would have tanned my backside. I just wouldn't have dared. Not so much scared, just more respect for my elders.
I agree lillylie, being a parent doesn't mean you can be their 'friend'. It's a parent's responsibility to set boundaries and those who don't are negligent.
pinkslippers I agree, my opening post was a bit glib. It does make you wonder though, at what point does a parent lose a connection so badly that their child's self-esteem suffers and they turn to artificial ways of making themselves feel better.
I still feel that some of those kids could have been easily reigned in with a few sharp words, "no" being the operative one. The girl laughing as she was being restrained for example, she seemed to me to be just testing how far she could go. 'All talk' as we used to say.
Being a parent of a teenager these days is just so hard.I've got a little darling just like some of those 'brats' and it doesn't matter what boundaries or rules I put in place, the biggest demon is drugs.I think all those parents will say exactly the same thing.If I had the money my daughter would be on that plane quicker than you could say 'brat camp'!!
Originally posted by scruffytigger: This series of brat camp all of the kids seem to be from relatively affluent and privileged backgrounds.
Is it not just a question of over indulgence rather than real 'problems'?
Having watched the first episode I'm inclined to think that if the parents had not put up with the anti-social behaviours in the first place........
Maybe I'm being a little old and naive but thinking back to my own teens my parents would have tanned my backside. I just wouldn't have dared. Not so much scared, just more respect for my elders.
But Middle class agnst is not a new thing. Think of The Catcher in the Rye. Holden Caulfield was from a very affluent family. The trouble is, I think, that the parents spend thier entire lives working themselves to the bone to give their children the best, to make sure that their children can have what they want; to give their children what they didn't have themselves. This then rather backfires because the children have zero concept of the value of anything.
This series of brat camp all of the kids seem to be from relatively affluent and privileged backgrounds.
Sorry but what?! Excluding Poppy they're all a bunch of greasy commoners!
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It doesn't neccesarily mean that you are rich if you are spoilt, because my sister always expects to get her own way, and we're not particularly rich. Anyway, if they are so poor, they would never be able to afford the drugs.
Oh possibly not then but her house looked fairly nice and her parents were quite well spoken. Am I thinking of the right one?
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Just because your poorer or average doesnt mean ur going to have problems and just because your rich doesnt mean your not going to have problems and vice-versa. If you have got emotional problems it has nothing to do with class or wealth. Its down to your family, friends, school, being bullied, someone passing away or leaving you. There are loads of things it could be.
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Thats Lydia,my daughter knows her,apparently she's a really nice kid,but got bullied so badly at school she started on drugs to escape and then just got dragged in with a really bad crowd.Her parents aren't rich either,I think they were just desperate to save her and had tried everything else.
Thanks, I forgot about that. But the others won't have all done the same, some might have I suppose. Plus, in the beginning, their clothes didn't look too cheap, so they must have had enough money
I dont think that Lydia is middle class, in her clip I noticed some blocks of flats in the background that are near where I live.....theres not really many middle class families round here!
I really don't get what the deal is with how much money they have or whether they're middle class or not ! Children can be spoilt or neglected whether rich or poor.
I think a lot of these kids get away with the physical and mental abuse they give their parents because our society today has brought kids up with the knowledge that parents can only talk to them - not properly discipline them. No respect will stop these kids. They are horrid!
I was brought up by strict parents - if I did something wrong I got a clip on the back of the leg or something - but OH NO - we are not allowed to do that now! Kids are given a free right to do whatever they want and parents can do nowt about it because the kids know they can have us locked up for blinking abuse! Makes me mad!
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