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I personally am not deleting my posts or my threads. I don't quiet understand where they are vanishing to.. My mum is going to contact channel 4 and report the problem. I may have to change my name and password etc.
Sorry for any un-answered posts, I may have already replied but they have been deleted.
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Thank you! That is great! I feel sorry for you!


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Channel 4 has responded to my email of yesterday querying the reason for the deletion of a number of posts by Poppyo’s . The mystery has been solved!

They sensibly have a policy of requiring any poster who claims to have participated in a Channel 4 programme to formally verify this with them before allowing them to make substantive posts.

It is my understanding that steps have been taken to commence this verification process.

Watch this space!

Alan
 
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That sounds great! Hope it is all ok!


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Hello All!
I have been offically verified!
Wahoo!
- So yes, Questions please or just general chit chat!
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Poppy

Delighted that it is all sorted - I was becoming more and more irate with the moderators of the forum as they continued to selectively delete your posts, especially as they were upsetting you and had not told anyone why they were doing it.

Looking forward to hearing more (but intend to give others the chance to ask) rather than hog the floor so to speak.

Cheers

Alan
 
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COOL! Cool


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Alan, If you have questions please feel free to ask, I feel you ask the questions people want to know about...
Besides, your questions intrest me and they are a joy to answer instead of the most "unique" answer I get walking around my local town "did you have fun" - My answer is yes and no. I don't really know how to put it any other way.
Anyway - It's rather late for me to be up still (12:18pm) and I have work tomorrow : [ - *welcomes myself to the real world of working*
I'd love to hear your questions.
Poppy xx
 
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Just realised that half of that above didn't make any sence, I blame it on the lack of sleep.
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Poppy

No Worries, I know what you meant.

Working on a Sunday – ouch (although I am just about to start hanging wallpaper in one of my bedrooms, does this count?)

I think the people asking you “did you have fun” have totally failed to appreciate the scope of your achievement in successfully completing the course – how on earth can a process like that be described as fun. Did they think it was a “freebie” holiday courtesy of Channel 4? Just surviving out of doors is hard enough; never mind undergoing the rollercoaster of emotions you all went through whilst out there.

I thought that there was real depth to the programme (a change for a reality TV programme to go beyond the cheap thrill) and it was the obvious rawness of emotions as longstanding problems and behaviour were confronted head on that had such an emotional impact on me.

Glad you like answering my questions as I have quite a few more but before doing so
I was wondering whether you might consider reposting your deleted responses (I know you don’t have a copy so would have to “ad lib”) in the “Fond reflections of The Brats” thread. I’m conscious that there are readers of the forum who did not have the opportunity to read your responses to my original questions and it will probably read better and allow anyone interested to more easily follow the story of your journey.

It’s only a suggestion – I’m happy to post wherever you like or start another thread if you let me know.

By the way when I am posting I actually complete my postings “offline” using a word processor program. When I am finished I just “copy and paste the contents into the window. This also has the advantage of allowing me to retain a copy of my original posting locally.

Cheers

Alan (looking out of the window at the snow)
 
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Hey Alan.
Yet again the first paragraph of your post made me laugh! I think I'll let your wallpaper hanging count...But only this once lol!

I think when people ask "did you have fun" they are usually trying tov ask an impersonal question so therefore they are not scrating the polished surfaces, If that makes any sence. Today (well I say today and I'm only in first lesson at school) I have decided to wirte my book. Starting tonight by digging out all of my diaries,photos, fire sets, clothes etc, from Aspen just to get the real feel again. I have all the DVDs from Utah but they only shead a little light on what was the most life changing and scariest experiance a 15/16 year old girl could ever face.
I am going to start my book with my life before I even found out that I was going to Utah and finish on the day I finish writing the book. I hope it gets published but thats the part I don't really know how to go about doing. Any Ideas???
Then I have the problem that people may not want to buy it!
This is going to be a difficult process but so worth it. Even if it ends up for my eyes only.

xx (Back to my Science).
 
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have you changed your hair colour? I will buy your book!


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I'd buy it too! Sounds like a great idea! Its the publishing bit that will be hard!


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Hi Poppy

Well that’s quite a turnaround you asking me a question for a change! I had better put my list of questions to one side (15 left at the last count).

Your explanation as to why you think people only ask “did you have fun?” once again demonstrates your increasing maturity. I was hopeless in reading social situations and circumstances and used to be very frustrated that my twin sister could always read the underlying situation, whereas I put my very large size 13 feet (I’m 6-4 by the way) straight in it.

Beautifully eloquent reply to Ana-s*x-: in the Brats thread by the way – that’s the way to deal with them.

Turning to your desire to write a book and your question as to how to have it published. I think it’s a fabulous idea to write a book and I am all for it, but it is no small undertaking. I have pondered what are the likely issues that may need to be considered. Hope this is not getting to deep and sending everyone to sleep!

Taking the negatives first (its not all negative by the way so don’t give up here!)

It’s a huge undertaking – for example my first post “Fond reflections of the Brats” was not just knocked out in half an hour. It took me about 4 hours to write with a number of redrafts and I have still spotted one factual error in it (prize to the person who can tell me what it is. Hint - Lydia is not allowed to enter if that gives you a clue where to look).

I suspect that it will take much longer to complete your book than you currently anticipate so you may become disillusioned with the process.

I believe that this year is GCSE year for you – so your time is probably short (especially working on Sundays Wink ) GCSE are VERY important (but you didn’t need me to tell you that)

Realistically you would have to publish the book privately (i.e. pay a publisher to print it and I would imagine small print runs are very expensive)

I don’t know if your parents have signed a contract with Channel 4 but there may some form of confidentiality or copyright obligation to them which may restrict what you can say. (This may just preclude you from making money from it which I don’t think is your intention anyway)

Realistically, Channel 4 will not keep the Brats forum open indefinitely and with the series having finished interest will inevitably wane. You need to start publishing something pretty much straight away to maintain interest (this may not be a concern but I always like to think that something I make an effort to write will be read by somebody)

Positives

There are lots of us who would love to read it – especially as you could fill in many of those unanswered questions that could not be covered in the TV programme because of time constraints and (tongue in cheek) it would certainly look good when C4 do a program in 12 months to see how you and your colleagues got on and find you became a writer Smile

I also think you would gain a lot personally from writing it – you are already expressing yourself and emotions very well and reflecting further on whom you were and what you have become will only be to your further benefit.

Possible solution

A possible way forward is to publish it on the web (accepting that once published online its public for all to see) but before you start panicking that you have no idea how to do this read on …

You may have heard people talking about blogs (or blogging). A blog is basically a personally diary that is published electronically on the web and anyone who is interested can read (you can restrict access to them by passwords etc but it would rather defeat the object in your case).

Commercial companies offer to host blogs.The sites that host blogs provide a user friendly WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get) type of interface so you don’t need to be a geek – if you can post to a forum then writing your own blog is not much more complicated. Most have the facility to upload photographs and for people who read the “blog” to ask questions of the writer (bit like the C4 forums really but you control what gets deleted!).

They normally have a time line as an index so in your case you could have week 1, week 2 etc or actual dates (July 2005) if you preferred.

The big plus is that you could start writing straight away, without having to complete the whole story and build up a following who could log on weekly/monthly to read your latest entry/update as you progressed through your story.

I have been following the blog of a guy who is renovating a Victorian terrace for over 12 months and it is often compulsive reading. I won’t link to it from here as Channel 4 are a bit fierce about people putting their email addresses or external links in postings and I don’t want to be banned from this forum.

If you went down this path and if Channel 4 were very nice they might even put a link from their Brats site to your blog (unlikely but may be worth a shot) There are other ways that could be used to increase its profile, but I wont go into them here now.

So there you go – my ten penny worth. I should add that I do work within IT so I am not totally without knowledge, heck we could even set up a basic website for you.

I can explore what’s available further if you like, but I think it might be a good idea to discuss this with your parents at this stage (assuming your mum is not already reading this!)if you want to go down this route

Now back to my 15 outstanding questions – do you want them one at a time or in one long list? I think Ponyluv is becoming impatient to hear more Razz .

Cheers

Alan

Ps sorry I seem to have written another novel!
 
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HAVE YOU CHANAGED YOUR HAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????


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Hi Poppy

I seem to have been overcome with delusions of becoming your literary editor in my last post, which was a round about way of answering your question as to how you might publish your diary at minimal cost to a wider audience. Sorry about that Red Face

I’ve tried to whittle my list of remaining questions down as I fear I may try even your patience (which has been boundless so far).

Any way here goes – usual caveat of ignore anything you consider remotely intrusive.

1. Did your school friends know you were going (I presume you left at the start of the summer holidays and returned mid September) and did they immediately notice the difference in you on your return (nice tan by the way!).

2. Were you able to see a preview of the series before it was transmitted or did you have to watch it episode by episode with the rest of us?

3. What was the reaction of your family, friends and school friends to you and your behaviour in the program (tip toe into school on a Thursday morning keeping your head down or stroll decisively through the gates)?

4. Did you think C4 have fairly represented how you were before you left and what happened whilst you were over there? In particular the earlier episodes which showed you a bit on the fierce side (Whilst not up to Lucy's standards, you would have terrified me!).

5. How long and what form did the graduation process take (it seems to involve a re-bonding with parents). Was there an effort to gradually reintroduce you to civilisation as part of the process? (Julia made a very deep comment about it being “it’s a big thing leaving the wilderness”)

6. How did you find being back in a crowded environment – e.g. Wilderness one minute, Salt Lake City Airport next? I think I would have freaked!

7. Whilst in your shelters didn’t the rain blow in under the gaps below the shelter roof – did you have bivouac bags or did you just sleep just in a sleeping bag on a mat and get wet?

8. As you moved up through each stage the equipment provided seemed to improve (I recall Julia having a proper rucksack at the end and proper boots) was this a “reward” and were they removed if you demoted?

9. Your “how to light a fire lesson” to your father in the field was very educational and impressive – but what is the significance of dried rabbit/cow you know what Smile (no wonder he thought you were taking the p**s)

10. From one of your previous responses it sounds like you were conditioned whilst at Aspen to take one day at a time – did you have a perception of how many days/weeks were passing or did it become a bit like Groundhog Day!


Thanks for your patience!

Alan

Ps looking forward to the book (only problem is finding you to obtain a copy when its ready!) Frown
 
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Wot does this mean cos i am still classed as a new member when I joined about a month asgo
 
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Hi 21st century babe.

C4 have a policy that if you post to these forums claiming to have participated in one of their shows (in this case poppyo who we now all know is Poppy!) then you must be verified by C4 to confirm you are who you claim to be. If you do not then your posts are likely to be deleted.

In your case (unless you are claiming to be a participant on Brat Camp) you need do nothing. Hope this clarifies things for you.

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Alan
 
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ponyluv no need to stress u aint the most important around u kno ther are otha questions she answers as well u kno


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Poppy has changed her hair, it is cut. Lol! Woah i just got dejavu, now i got it again which is crazy ohh i hate this feeling Confused and no one understands it because they're not going through it and ahhh i sound stupid. I'll stop now.


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