Originally posted by strikeboy1: keegan is no 2, it'll all end in tears i tell yeah.
It's hard to see how it won't. Keegan, temperamental drama queen and Newcastle fans - the self-styled most loyal and passionate fans in the world - who expect to win the league each season.
Originally posted by CaptVimes: Being Newcastle it can only go two ways:
1) He doesnt turn it around quick enough like Allardyce, Roeder etc we start hearing the old tactically naive rants and he is sacked.
2) He actually does the miraculous but doesnt win anything in the first couple of years and he gets the sack for taking them as far as he can again.
He won't get the sack. He always walks.
He was sacked the first time he was at the toon. Unless you are stupid enough to fall for the golden gag tactic that teams used at the time. I quote "he has taken the team as far as he can" after finishing 2nd two years running.
Here you go lad you get the full compensation as long as you dont talk to the media and make me look bad for sacking the chosen one...
---------------------------------------------------- Touched by his noodly appendage - RAmen.
Employing a bottler like Keegan who is asking for exactly what the other managers there have never had (time) can only end in tears.
His press conference was riddled with contradictions like "I haven't seen a game for 3 years" and then "I'm the most qualified man for the job" and "Sometimes it takes someone to look from the outside in". And "I know this club inside out" seems a bit strange when the only thing remaining from the last time he was there is the ground, and even that's changed
His acceptance speech is full of clichés and pretty moronic.
"The fans would like to win something. When they've worked all week, the match for them, it's a bit like the people down south going to the theatre."
How many theatres do you see in the west end with 50,000 people sitting in them Keggy? Apparently doon sooth we dont work all week or hard at all and the most excitement we crave at the weekend is watching a few thespians.
News to you mate its the 21st century and most geordies work in offices like the rest of us and cr@p on porcelain like the rest of us.
"This is a very special club, this is not just a normal football club, that's what people outside this area don't understand."
Yes apparently there are no special clubs outside geordieland so we cant possibly understand...yea right. Also the fans are so wonderful they are booing and chanting for their last manager to be sacked after 3 months (I know it was Allardyce but you can pick any one from the last 11 or so managers) not turning up to matches and leaving in droves while loosing. the rest of us find it really hard to understand and match up to the wonderous "best fans in the world".
He is right in one respect though most fans cant understand many things about Newcastle. Why they think they are better than anyone else in the country because their mam sprogged just doon the rood. How they can spend so much money year on year and still manage to fail specatularly. How they can forget that they arent even the most successful club in their area of the country let alone England or Europe, massive club indeed... How they expect a manager to turn it around and get into the "big 4" within 12 months sometimes without even having a full transfer window to work with.
I normally back keegan against the press but when he panders to the base newcastle fans like this its hard not to want them to fail over and over again.
---------------------------------------------------- Touched by his noodly appendage - RAmen.
I like Keegan as a bloke and I like his enthusiasm but it does seem to be a bit misplaced here. I agree with everything you say, Capt. Newcastle aren't as big as they think they are and to assume people from outside their area don't understand the club is a bit naive and a bit insulting as well. They're no more than an under-achieving, average, mid-table club.
And, give it 12 months and I can just see his well-worn Keegan cliche being uttered at another press conference "This job is bigger than I ever imagined, certainly bigger than me" after he quits, leaving Shearer to step in after 12 months of undermining him in the media to meet his own ends and ambitions
My word! You have it bad cap'n! I think that you can safely say that, deep down, the rest of us in the Top Right would regard them as the more successful club. Though to be fair Darlo won the Vauxhall and fourth in successive seasons. I like the way you managed to get three dialects in the same sentence though but.
The Top right I had seen a comparison of Sunderland with them recently and was being devils advocate but: Newcastle have won the league 4 times and the FA cup 6 and Sunderland the league 6 and the FA cup 2 and has won them both more recently as well though still a long time ago.
I know Newcastle has a bigger support but when they struggle to look good against Sunderland as a club then you would think they would be more modest in their claims.
---------------------------------------------------- Touched by his noodly appendage - RAmen.
We all have different ways of looking at things in the aforementioned top right. The Deckchairs have had some awfully embarassing seasons recently, and still need a lot of effort to be regarded as a permanent denizen of the money league. Since moving to the Riverside I have enjoyed two seasons. The one where we had Ravioli and Juninho and their pals, and the one where Merson almost single handidly dragged us back to the top flight. There were some entertaining incidents during the Europe run, but that's it. The League Cup win was one of the most boring events of all time. Newcastle in the same period have had genuinely entertaining periods, Champions League, and genuine attempts to win the Premiership, and you would be quite likely to see people wearing their shirt even round here!
What Keegan needs to do is break the habit of a lifetime and do some defensive training. They were appalling at the back. No matter how much quality he brings in, he needs to do that and get the players playing for the club, not just turning up, going through the motions for 90 minutes and picking up £80k a week, which is what they're doing now. But I reckon the players he has at the club couldn't give a monkey's 'arris about him or the club