Originally posted by dial square: the refs never favour arsenal , i dont know why you think that ?
and wenger, as any other manager would do, will moan about bad refereeing decisions.
I think that because it is blatently obvious that you get a lot of decisions. Wenger is the worst loser I have ever seen, when Fulham beat Arsenal (deservedly) he did not congratulate us once but chose to criticise the ref for disallowing Henry's goal (rightfully) and moaned about the fixture congestion. The man's a moron.
Originally posted by dial square: how about man u ?
Put that wooden spoon away.. I've seen a lot not go our way over the years...
lots of late *dubious* penaltys in matches ?
vast amounts of extra time being added (when man u not winning)
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Originally posted by FULofHAM:
I think that because it is blatently obvious that you get a lot of decisions. Wenger is the worst loser I have ever seen, when Fulham beat Arsenal (deservedly) he did not congratulate us once but chose to criticise the ref for disallowing Henry's goal (rightfully) and moaned about the fixture congestion. The man's a moron.
why should he congratulate you for the win ?
we are serious title contenders and any defeat is a major disaster , wenger is one of ,if not the greatest, managers to ever manage a team in this country.
Originally posted by dial square: why should he congratulate you for the win ?
we are serious title contenders and any defeat is a major disaster , wenger is one of ,if not the greatest, managers to ever manage a team in this country.
Wenger showed a complete lack of respect for Fulham in the after match interview and made a fool of himself. You are NOT serious title contenders. Ferguson is the greatest manager to manage a premiership team.
Originally posted by dial square: and ferguson takes defeat well ?
of course not, no decent manager ever would,
wenger is no different, and at least he doesnt shy away from the bbc unlike fergy
There's accepting defeat gracefully and plain old shouting/whinging your mouth off, the latter being what Wenger and Mouriho have done a lot of recently.
Fergies no saint i know, and has had his moments in the past but that's old news.
As for the whole MOTD thing.. i think it's hilarious, good on him.
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Wenger showed a complete lack of respect for Fulham in the after match interview and made a fool of himself. You are NOT serious title contenders. Ferguson is the greatest manager to manage a premiership team.
He gets asked will you win the league. He always answers in the positive because he beleives he can. That is something in common with Mourinho with his predictions of winning by March last year and Ferguson. It seems to be a particularly English thing to consider that a manager actually shock horror think they can win, they are supposted to be ever so humble so as not to upset poor delicate opposition fans. Maybe if English managers had this attitude maybe one of them might win something.
Originally posted by dial square: the refs never favour arsenal , i dont know why you think that ?
and wenger, as any other manager would do, will moan about bad refereeing decisions.
I think that because it is blatently obvious that you get a lot of decisions. Wenger is the worst loser I have ever seen, when Fulham beat Arsenal (deservedly) he did not congratulate us once but chose to criticise the ref for disallowing Henry's goal (rightfully) and moaned about the fixture congestion. The man's a moron.
Chis Coleman has moaned about refereeing decisions countless times, so and until you start actually get into Europe you wont understand fixture congestion. Anyway this was a sensible discussion till you started to vent your spleen over arsenal again you have already made your point about your victory on a thread you created for the game. I congratulated you on it. Now do one and pee off.
Originally posted by zeds: You suggest that Henry was rotting in Juve reserves at 21 (they don't have reserves but anyway). But Henry was considered a big talent from a very young age, afterall Juve did fork out over £10m for him and he was a regular member of the French squad. I know Adebayor is young and hey he might prove me wrong but I can never see him developing into a major player for Arsenal, while it is right to say that at a similar age Drogba et al were in the lower leagues etc, but another point to bear in mind is that its pretty much a 2-way street with player development and coversely there are also plenty of players that get breaks early on in their careers but don't realise their potential and go in the opposite direction.
They might not have a reserve league but the players not in the first 11 are reserves. Now we have got our pedant bits out of the way .
Some players show enormous talent at a young age (Anelka) and others take a long time to develop. I am just saying its stupid to say a player will never make it at 21. If Henry played for Togo then i dont expect he would have ended up at Juve so young. Wenger is generally a good spotter of talent, he works his nuts off for the team and in the last couple of games has looked good.
Originally posted by dial square: the refs never favour arsenal , i dont know why you think that ?
and wenger, as any other manager would do, will moan about bad refereeing decisions.
I think that because it is blatently obvious that you get a lot of decisions. Wenger is the worst loser I have ever seen, when Fulham beat Arsenal (deservedly) he did not congratulate us once but chose to criticise the ref for disallowing Henry's goal (rightfully) and moaned about the fixture congestion. The man's a moron.
Chis Coleman has moaned about refereeing decisions countless times, so and until you start actually get into Europe you wont understand fixture congestion. Anyway this was a sensible discussion till you started to vent your spleen over arsenal again you have already made your point about your victory on a thread you created for the game. I congratulated you on it. Now do one and pee off.
Prove we get penalty decisions.
Coleman moans a lot yes, I don't like it when he does but he doesn't go as far as to refuse to shake hands with the oppositions manager. Coleman gives some credit to the other team at least.
Moaning about fixture congestion is possibly one of the most pathetic things in football. League One managers don't complain and they have 46 league games, early rounds of FA cup and Carling cup and the LDV vans trophy or whatever they call it nowadays. If you moan about the fixtures you have to accept that it is the managers fault if anything. Not assembling a squad that can cope with it.
I'm afraid I am not going anywhere- just like Arsenal's Championship winnings ambitions.
Coleman moans a lot yes, I don't like it when he does but he doesn't go as far as to refuse to shake hands with the oppositions manager. Coleman gives some credit to the other team at least.
Moaning about fixture congestion is possibly one of the most pathetic things in football. League One managers don't complain and they have 46 league games, early rounds of FA cup and Carling cup and the LDV vans trophy or whatever they call it nowadays. If you moan about the fixtures you have to accept that it is the managers fault if anything. Not assembling a squad that can cope with it.
I'm afraid I am not going anywhere- just like Arsenal's Championship winnings ambitions.
He shook Colemans hand, or did you mean that racist piece of work that offered his hand after his torrent of abuse. I wouldnt shake it either. He also isnt the first in football not to shake a hand but for some reason the only one to villified for it, as Warner said he would have nutted him. I will await numerous quotes of Coleman heaping praise on his opposition after losing.
The only reason why the lower divisions dont complain about too many fixtures (besides even if they did the only place it would be reported would be the local paper at best) is because they need every penny and that is why they added even more fixtures to the end of the season with the playoffs. Every manager of the 4 in the champions league has complained about it at one time or another. Use your brain.
I just meant leave this thread as it was a good discussion. Of course you can stay and continue pissing on it but two can play at that game in the future .
Just to kick you off, Coleman complains about a bad penalty decision turning the game after being beaten 4-0 against Liverpool. Conveniently all the interviews are recorded and playable on the BBC football reports.
Originally posted by CaptVimes: Just to kick you off, Coleman complains about a bad penalty decision turning the game after being beaten 4-0 against Liverpool. Conveniently all the interviews are recorded and playable on the BBC football reports.
Coleman is a deluded fool though, he will do anything to divert blame away from his poor tactics.
Originally posted by zeds: A good win for Arsenal with an Adebayor penalty
I missed the game today but from what I read he had a good game . As I said earlier I do think he has turned the corner. I shall have to wait for MOTD.
Originally posted by zeds: A good win for Arsenal with an Adebayor penalty
I missed the game today but from what I read he had a good game . As I said earlier I do think he has turned the corner. I shall have to wait for MOTD.
I have always been a fan of him, very under-rated player.
Originally posted by Incubus: Arsenal are more like a team without Henry.
OK this Henry-bashing needs to stop. So they played a few games with him and coped, but let's not forget what he's done for Arsenal and still remains by far their best player.I saw Arsenal away to Wigan and Watford of late, and in both games I feel they
