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The top four teams in the Prem League is things stands now will stay there for at least 20 years unless things in our game change.

Newcastle, Aston Villa, Everton and my team Spurs have no chance AT ALL in ever breaking into the top four...never mind winning the title.

It's depressing and bad for the English game to have this lack of competition but it's sadly the case.

All the big money and best players will always go to the top sides and the rest of us get the second best players, and if we get players coming through our youth system and the prove to be any good one of the top sides will steal them away from us.

Please, someone out there, give me and other fans of the lower sides some hope and tell me how we can break this domination from the top four teams. Shake Head


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If Abramovich hadn't had the door effectively slammed on him by Tottenham's chairman over-valuing the club, it would be them in the top 4 now, not Chelsea. Chelsea are only there because of him and did not have the fanbase or resources before that to challenge in the top bracket.

In a way, Levy has only himself to blame for them not being up there with the best


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Just to add, chelsea were by no means Abramovich's first choice of club. He tried to buy Tottenham and then Portsmouth before he went to the Bridge. That sort of puts Chelsea into perspective


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AndyCardiff I agree with you about Chelsea being Abramovich's third choice (says it all about Chelsea's profile as a club) but if he had brought Tottenham instead it would only mean we would have been in the big four instead of Chelsea.

It doesn't prove Keagan or me wrong that it's bad for competition and bad for English football.

I prefer Spurs to build a winning team in the old fashioned way rather than buy Cups and titles.

Money has ruined football.


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I agree totally and, with the dawn of the Sky billions, which is basically, the root of the problems in todays game as far as creating an elitist competition is concerned, there isn't going to be any change. You need an Abramovich to make it really, really big now if you're a club who were small time like Chelsea. The much bigger clubs will just get bigger


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Nice to see Ebbsfleet having a bit of success. Apparently as well as a shadow Man utd, there will now be an AFC LIverpool. This may be the way forward.


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I just hope the standard of football is up to it. Apparentlu, FC United had a Coronation St actor playing for them!


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You need competition to sustain interest; just look at the Scottish league, does anyone really care if Celtic or Rangers win? They're interchangeable so it doesn't really matter who wins, and I think it's a similar situation in the Premiership. Gone are the days when Newcastle or Blackburn could challenge for the title; the relegation battle is more exciting than what's happening at the top.


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You need competition to sustain interest; just look at the Scottish league, does anyone really care if Celtic or Rangers win? They're interchangeable so it doesn't really matter who wins, and I think it's a similar situation in the Premiership. Gone are the days when Newcastle or Blackburn could challenge for the title; the relegation battle is more exciting than what's happening at the top.


I don't want Newcastle or Blackburn to challenge for the title


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You need competition to sustain interest; just look at the Scottish league, does anyone really care if Celtic or Rangers win? They're interchangeable so it doesn't really matter who wins, and I think it's a similar situation in the Premiership. Gone are the days when Newcastle or Blackburn could challenge for the title; the relegation battle is more exciting than what's happening at the top.


Totally agree, I remember in the last couple of decades where many different teams each season would challenge for the old first division title and teams coming up from the old second div could do very well in the top flight league...that was true competition.

Plus teams used to bulid teams from their youth system, things were alot more even.

At least the relegation battle is fairly interesting, although the same teams are starting to be down there every year now too.


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It's sad now that a team's ambition, once they're promoted, is finishing one place above the relegation places. A few years ago, if you brought in a few quality players and were shrewd in the transfer market, you could try and break into the UEFA Cup places, which are now Champions League qualification places, and that hope is long gone.

I think Keegan is right, but most owners won't believe that, even if they do stand on the terraces with the masses (perhaps Keegan's saving grace?) and want instant results and success


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Perhaps, eventually, they will hive off the top four into some sort of super Euro League. You could have Europe's best teams (and Paris SG) playing each other and make even lots more lovely money.
I'm sure that this is what they have in mind.


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In all honesty Liverpool FC cannot compete with the other 3 clubs spending, i mean chelsea have already spent 16.2 mill on a player yet the season only just ending ..... LFC cant do that
 
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It's coming Joe, it's coming


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In all honesty Liverpool FC cannot compete with the other 3 clubs spending, i mean chelsea have already spent 16.2 mill on a player yet the season only just ending ..... LFC cant do that


Oh yes you can!


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we seriously cannot Eek if only, now get DIC in and i may change my mind Big Grin
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In all honesty Liverpool FC cannot compete with the other 3 clubs spending, i mean chelsea have already spent 16.2 mill on a player yet the season only just ending ..... LFC cant do that


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Didn't you spend £30m on one player last summer? What a great buy he was


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20 + mill it was, and if you look at all 4 clubs spending since rafa has been there, we have spent the least, buying torres last year mad massive headlines for the sheer fact that the highest we had ever spent on a player before that was 11mill and that was on cisse - so we are worlds apart in spending power if you see it from that point of view, i hope once we get the bigger stadium that will change though Wink
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When you get the new stadium, I'm not sure you will. Not initially anyway. Is it council funded or funded by the club? If it's council funded then you can carry on spending, if the club are funding it, you're in the same boat as Arsenal is my guess


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Well at the mo, who knows, ref the owners i am confused.com Angry
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When you get the new stadium, I'm not sure you will. Not initially anyway. Is it council funded or funded by the club? If it's council funded then you can carry on spending, if the club are funding it, you're in the same boat as Arsenal is my guess
 
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we seriously cannot Eek if only, now get DIC in and i may change my mind Big Grin


You're just desperate to get DIC in aren't you Roni? Have faith, it could happen one day... Wink


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Please, no more overseas owners of English clubs, they dont care about our clubs and only want to use the clubs as their playthings.

Nothing good will come of it...just look at Liverpool. Shake Head


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we seriously cannot Eek if only, now get DIC in and i may change my mind Big Grin


You're just desperate to get DIC in aren't you Roni? Have faith, it could happen one day... Wink

What kind of DIC tho? Big Grin Big Grin


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we seriously cannot Eek if only, now get DIC in and i may change my mind Big Grin


You're just desperate to get DIC in aren't you Roni? Have faith, it could happen one day... Wink

What kind of DIC tho? Big Grin Big Grin


The kind of DIC that keeps on giving. Big Grin


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