Tacchinardi?
O RLY?

yeh he's only on loan to villareal.

3-0 midway through second half. Better result so far. Just need Messina to equalise.

The report on C4 was clearly written by someone who got bored after the first half...

Martins worse than Cissé? Pah!

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Originally posted by Phonicsdude:
The report on C4 was clearly written by someone who got bored after the first half...

Martins worse than Cissé? Pah!

Could have been written by almost anyone who watched the game then

Tavano - good or bad?

Well hasn't he only come onto the scene this season, i'm not sure about him, he needs another season to prove himself i think.

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Originally posted by nordic_denmarksweden_fix:
I agree. Martins is the most overated player in Serie A. I am not being racist - but he is a stereotypical african striker(there are a few exceptions e.g weah, kanu - but not many). Hes got pace to burn and a few quick dribbling and skillful movements but absolutely no brain whatsoever to go with it...
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You are not being racist but your post assertion is ridiculous. I beleive there are so many crap, dumb european/asian/southamerican strikers out there. Defining Martins' lack of skill as being stereotypically African is, imo, not right. What about Eto'o, Drogba, Okocha, Yeboah, Benny M'Carthy, etc.?

I did say there were a few exceptions. Etoo and Drogba it can be argued can be put into this bracket. Okoacha is a midfielder, Yeboah wasnt anything special - he had 1 good season at Leeds in a poor Premier League before virtually disappearing from 'real' top class football. Benny McCarthy is not a stereotypical african striker but he is hardly anything special either.

saying there are also many dumb european/asian/southamerican strikers out there is a stupid comment. Of course there are many - but its not a stereotype like it is with african strikers. Thats like saying that its not a stereotype that italian people have black hair because there are also many people with black hair in south america/asia/africa.

sms did not say that African strikers were not dumb because there are European/Asian/South American strikers who are dumb. You've constructed a shambolic strawman argument there. His point was that there are lots of strikers from other continents that have tactically naive strikers, so why pick on Africa? Furthermore that there are plenty of African strikers who are tactically aware.
You might not like Etoo or Drogba very much, but to say that they are tactically naive is to be guilty of the same level of ignorance that Italia has exhibited recently. Ironic, considering you have sucessfully owned Italia on the foro on numerous occasions.
Anyway, would you like to list far more strikers that are African and tactically naive in the top flight, than we have named strikers who are tactically aware?

read my post properly! i didnt say etoo or drogba were tactically naive! I said they could possibly be put in the bracket of actually having tactical awareness.

Read my posts properly before you try and dismantle my arguments!!!

I admit I am controversial with my views- but that is only because i tell the truth. The truth hurts - and people can't accept the truth because they would rather conform to the same old bullshit conservative opinion that most people accept in all walks of life because they are too naive to see things differently to what is extrovertly displayed and accepted.

Wot are u on about, people can't handle the truth, you continue to spout rubbish, if you ever watched a serie a match or any kind of football you might understand. Unbelievable.

^Best post ever. ahhahahahah

Bit harsh though. Nordic is a good poster.

To Nordic: Your comment was ambiguous. Still, you did not read sms's post properly either!
Anyway, care to rise to the challenge of naming a dozen or more top flight African strikers who are tactically naive? Or do you accept that the stereotypical African forward is not in fact tactically naive.

Someones gettin a bit touchy, time of the month? U have just used my argument and twisted it completely, use ur own thoughts instead of ones that are fed to u through newspapers and other media and make ur own opinions!

If you don't think this forum is useful, just don't post on it.

For those of us who do find it useful, we continue.

Easy!!

Yeh good one peter, why didn't i think of that, if u dn't like nordicswedishperson then go somewhere else who appreciate your views, oh no just go somewhere else. lol

In response to your question -

theres not even a dozen african strikers who play in Serie A which tells you something seeing Italy is such a tactical league. In fact look through the history of serie A - how many african strikers have ever played in serie A??? so few its unbelievable. this proves the point really w/o saying more about the stereotype of african strikers.

Anyway lets do just Ita and Eng.

Italy: Martins Suazo Makinwa bakayoko konan obinna - these account for all of serie a african attackers i can think of and none are tactically aware in my opinion. ok suazo has scored alot of goals but i wudnt call him tactically aware if you watch him play.

England: Adebayor, Cisse (the most tactically naive ever of all time! - ok hes french but all french blacks are africans really) yakubu , lualua (can do some pieces of magic but tactical decision making is pathetic) mwarurari kamara, camara

Sorry for my 'controversial' posts - im obviously too 'hot' for these forums. Il never make it as a politician cos I always tell it how it is!

You probably wont see me around these forums anymore.ciao ciao

Your Korea theory looks like it has been copied off some dodgy internet site. Still, just ignore the issues and keep calling everyone naive, that's your best bet. At least Martins is quick - what are the qualities that compensate for your lack of brain power?

In response to the question about responding to dave's theory - there really is no point. The way you assess a conspiracy theory is by assessing it as a whole - not just picking out little bones and say "this cant be right that cant be right".

I cant be bothered to have this debate because as i said before - all of you are English and are never going to accept the 2002 world cup theory however concrete the evidence is. so really i am wasting my time.

I came on to these forums to have debates with italians and italy fans, not england supporters who may just happen to watch italian football but still are really the same as all the other anti-italian english fans out there who will never accept the theories!!!

Get out of here i thought you said you was going, just go you keep coming back with accusations and the like that are all laughable, you call them theories. Oh dear, oh dear. Anyway last time i looked this was an inter thread and you are spouting absolute rubbish, wot about you setting up your own thread, maybe labeled lets talk rubbish or come spout your pasted theories!