Wow,haven`t had time to think about this really spent the last half hour talking to friends and they`re all pretty angry.

Didn`t believe we would go down or that any wrong doing occured on Lazio`s part,neither did I expect the Viola to go it`s a joke.

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Originally posted by Giancarlo:

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C2 to CL to B to No CL - FORZA VIOLA

Fixed

I don't mean that in a nasty way it's just a joke.

No offence.

In the same way, I'd better correct one of your fellow Gobbi's signature:

It takes time to lose... 2 titles!!

Don't think appeals etc lawyers will get anyone out of this one.

There is only 14 days before the UEFA deadline of 28th July. Lazio (start in B with -7points) Viola (start in B with -12points) Juve (start in B with-30 points) and have the last two scudetti wiped out. Milan stay in A but start with -15 points and are banned from CL this year.

io sono intersita . . . MAI IN B!

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your fellow Gobbi's signature

Ouch, that was below the belt

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Originally posted by Curva Fiesole:

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Originally posted by Giancarlo:

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C2 to CL to B to No CL - FORZA VIOLA

Fixed

I don't mean that in a nasty way it's just a joke.

No offence.

In the same way, I'd better correct one of your fellow Gobbi's signature:

It takes time to lose... 2 titles!!

Well, since I am in some sort of a black comedy type of mood, it actually takes NO time to lose two titles! See you in B! so aside from Viola and Lazio, I look forward to finding out who we will be competing with in B! Is Napoli there yet?

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Originally posted by Curva Fiesole:

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Originally posted by Giancarlo:

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C2 to CL to B to No CL - FORZA VIOLA

Fixed

I don't mean that in a nasty way it's just a joke.

No offence.

In the same way, I'd better correct one of your fellow Gobbi's signature:

It takes time to lose... 2 titles!!

Gazzetta is reporting that just the 2004-05 is to be taken away, I dont see anything about 2005-06 mentioned

No europe for milan and the relgateions stand for hte other 3 but epxect them all to appeal the points deducted

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Originally posted by Curva Fiesole:
No offence.

In the same way, I'd better correct one of your fellow Gobbi's signature:

It takes time to lose... 2 titles!!

excellent LOL

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Originally posted by Giancarlo:

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your fellow Gobbi's signature

Ouch, that was below the belt

Sorry, I didn't mean to type fellow - just not thinking straight this evening for some reason

Am I correct in thinking there will only be 2 Italian teams in the Champions League(Inter and Roma) next season?They should give qualifiers to whoever has 3rd and 4th rather than straight into Uefa cup.

ok now its there.. :s

Chievo Verona and Palermo enter the Champion's League at the preliminary stage, while Livorno, Empoli and Parma will go into the Uefa Cup.

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Originally posted by forzafiori:
Am I correct in thinking there will only be 2 Italian teams in the Champions League(Inter and Roma) next season?They should give qualifiers to whoever has 3rd and 4th rather than straight into Uefa cup.

It's being reported that Chievo and Palermo will take the other two places.

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Originally posted by floaty:


Gazzetta is reporting that just the 2004-05 is to be taken away, I dont see anything about 2005-06 mentioned

the season in question 2004-05 was easily the worst I witnessed with Lazio since the 80`s it`s just a farce

This not the end

The impact of the whole situation is starting to set in. It all seemed a bit surreal last week with the 'threat' (which we knew would become reality) of relegation hanging over the club - Now it just seems utterly disheartening.

Whilst I will always support the club, come rain or shine, I still feel really angry at the way the whole affair has developed.

Serie B beckons for the first time in the clubs history, not through any fault of the players or fans, and thats what really gets to me...

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Originally posted by juventino:
Whilst I will always support the club, come rain or shine, I still feel really angry at the way the whole affair has developed.

Serie B beckons for the first time in the clubs history, not through any fault of the players or fans, and thats what really gets to me...

Believe it or not, I actually agreed with Berlusconi earlier in the week when he said that it was wrong to punish the fans and the players over this.

Punish the individuals? Yes.

Punish those people who were completely ignorant of the whole situation and possibly ruin Serie A for the foreseeable future? Fook no.

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Originally posted by Mezz:
Chievo Verona and Palermo enter the Champion's League at the preliminary stage, while Livorno, Empoli and Parma will go into the Uefa Cup.

Empoli in europe! Using our bloody stadium!

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Originally posted by Mezz:

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Originally posted by juventino:
Whilst I will always support the club, come rain or shine, I still feel really angry at the way the whole affair has developed.

Serie B beckons for the first time in the clubs history, not through any fault of the players or fans, and thats what really gets to me...

Believe it or not, I actually agreed with Berlusconi earlier in the week when he said that it was wrong to punish the fans and the players over this.

Punish the individuals? Yes.

Punish those people who were completely ignorant of the whole situation and possibly ruin Serie A for the foreseeable future? Fook no.

Good post, Mezz.

What has happened today transcends football rivalry and I feel for the fans of Milan, Fiorentina and Lazio (as well as our own). I'm a big boy and it hasn't hurt me in the slightest but I feel for the kids who idolise these teams and their players. They don't deserve this injustice - we don't deserve this injustice.

We were all prepared at Juve for the relegation but the 30 point deficit imposed for the start of next season has been something of a kick in the teeth.

All in all, I'm glad this has come to light and hope that Serie A and Italian football can be cleansed of any maladministration. Along with safer stadia, better behaved fans and security issues such as ticket distribution being addressed, I do think we're moving in the right direction.

2004/05 season
- Juve's title revoked
- nothing about Milan in this season so since they finished 2nd i assume they are awarded the title, unless it is given to no-one.
- In light of the above, Inter do not win the title.


Classification

2004/05 - no champions or Milan are champions.
1 Juventus 86 *title revoked
2 AC Milan 79
3 Inter Milan 72
4 Udinese 62
5 Sampdoria 61
6 Palermo 53
7 Messina 48
8 Roma 45
9 Livorno 45
10 Lecce 44
11 Reggina 44
12 Cagliari 44
13 Lazio 44
14 Siena 43
15 Chievo Verona 43
16 Fiorentina 42
17 Bologna 42
18 Parma 42
19 Brescia 41
20 Atalanta 35


2005/06 season
- Juve classified in last place, bumping everyone else up one place.
- Milan finished season with 88-44 = 44 points, bumping everyone above them up one place.
- Inter actually win a title.


Classification

Season 2005/06 - Inter are champions
1 Inter Milan 76
2 Fiorentina 74
3 Roma 69
4 Lazio 62
5 Chievo Verona 54
6 Palermo 52
7 Livorno 49
8 Parma 45
9 Empoli 45
10 AC Milan 44 (88-44penalty)
11 Ascoli 43
12 Udinese 43
13 Sampdoria 41
14 Reggina 41
15 Cagliari 39
16 Siena 39
17 Messina 31
18 Lecce 29
19 Treviso 21
20 Juventus 91

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Originally posted by myles2:
2005/06 season
- Juve classified in last place, bumping everyone else up one place.
- Milan finished season with 88-44 = 44 points, bumping everyone above them up one place.
- Inter actually win a title.

Also,
- Fiorentina classified in last place
- Lazio classified in last place

So the table looks like;
Classification

Season 2005/06 - Inter are champions
1 Inter Milan 76 (Scudetto and CL)
2 Roma 69 (CL)
3 Chievo Verona 54 (CL preliminary)
4 Palermo 52 (CL preliminary)
5 Livorno 49 (UC)
6 Parma 45 (UC)
7 Empoli 45 (UC)
8 AC Milan 44 (88-44penalty)
9 Ascoli 43
10 Udinese 43
11 Sampdoria 41
12 Reggina 41
13 Cagliari 39
14 Siena 39
15 Messina 31
16 Lecce 29
17 Treviso 21
18 Juventus 91
= Fiorentina 74
= Lazio 62

Messina, Lecce and Treviso not in relegation places so not relegated.
No inter-toto team.

2006/07

1 Inter Milan 0
2 Roma 0
3 Chievo Verona 0
4 Palermo 0
6 Parma 0
7 Empoli 0
8 Ascoli 0
9 Udinese 0
10 Sampdoria 0
11 Reggina 0
12 Cagliari 0
13 Siena 0
14 Messina 0
15 Lecce 0
16 Treviso 0
17 Atalanta 0
18 Catania 0
19 Torino 0
20 AC Milan -15