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Originally posted by blackandblue:

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Originally posted by sms:

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Originally posted by blackandblue:
Who's to say that if the League had been a level playing field in the first place Inter would not have won more?...

Go on. A convinient excuse had now been provided for the interisti for thier team's failure. What about the CL? Or do juve and milan fixed that also so inter should fail miserably the way they did for donkey years? I think inter fans should just accept the fact that their team is "natural-born-loser", level or no level playing field.

I'd like to know who 'sorted' the match officials to 'miss' Shevchenko's headbutt on Materazzi in last year's CL Derby semi . No 'video evidence' for that one.

Yeh but lets be fair here. Matrix was guilty of some of the worst tackles I've ever seen on a football pitch envers Sheva.

Why haven't Inter been winning? Because their competitors have been cheating. Once one scudetto is one the winning mentality is instilled among those who took part. Inter have been denied that, whilst Juve and Milan (stoll worldclass teams, lest we forget among accusations of cheating) were given an extra push at crucial times and hence both had a mighty aura about them that Inter could never quite muster.
It's not like Inter finished way behind most seasons. We have finished second a good few times and lost the scudetto on the last day of the season on that fateful May 5th despite some CHAOTIC decisions in earlier week (juve given some "nice" goals and Inter playing away to an in form Chievo for 4 minutes of imaginery injury time - yep Chievo scored in the last of those).

pah.

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Originally posted by mrsnrub:
I'ts good to see such bravado from some undoubtedly dedicated Inter fans here. However, to argue that Inter are without their problems is ludicrous. Inter are very much a case of all mouth and no trousers - promising much and delivering little. They have an over-reliance on tempramental Argentinian players, an incredibly shabby record of treatment with their managers in the past. And, lets face it, an awful record in the Milan derby in recent years.

I hope they prove me wrong this season, but I cant see them being able to actually string enough results together to mount a serious challenge for anything other than a champions league spot.

I'm not being disingenuous with these posts, just looking for a reason behind Iner's staggering lack of success in recent years.

You overlook the fact that the transfer market - especially regarding Italian players - has been stitched up in recent years by Moggi, Galliani and co.

Moratti didn't seem too keen on signing many Italians though did he? More like he wanted to sign the entire Argentine national side...
Moratti has spent almost £500m and most of it was on shite.

Because Of Moggi

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Originally posted by blackandblue:
Who's to say that if the League had been a level playing field in the first place Inter would not have won more?...

Go on. A convinient excuse had now been provided for the interisti for thier team's failure. What about the CL? Or do juve and milan fixed that also so inter should fail miserably the way they did for donkey years? I think inter fans should just accept the fact that their team is "natural-born-loser", level or no level playing field.

There evidnce that Moggi reached CL too.

Rubbish! Its as ridiculous as suggesting that Marseille were able to influence Milan in the EC final of 1993

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Originally posted by Peter Intermilano:

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Originally posted by sms:

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Originally posted by blackandblue:
Who's to say that if the League had been a level playing field in the first place Inter would not have won more?...

Go on. A convinient excuse had now been provided for the interisti for thier team's failure. What about the CL? Or do juve and milan fixed that also so inter should fail miserably the way they did for donkey years? I think inter fans should just accept the fact that their team is "natural-born-loser", level or no level playing field.

There evidnce that Moggi reached CL too.

Inter have been relatively (un)successful in the CL in recent years as have Milan and Juve.

All three teams would have been in Pot 1 of the CL Group stage draw. Only one team can win and, in the last ten seasons, the only Italian success was Milan's in 2002/2003 - a victory obtained with a great deal of luck (not to mention the ridiculous two minutes' injury time played in the semi final second leg).

if Inter have "failed miserably" in the CL then so have Juve and Milan.

Let's not forget La Coruna (twice), 25 May, Galatasaray, Arsenal outclassing Juve, Man Utd humiliating Juve in 1999, Juve coming last in their second knock out Group in 2002, Zidane's headbutt.

Inter's lack of domestic success - for well know reasons - has also acted as a cover for Milan and Juve's relative lack of success in the CL.

If you are winning easily by bribing or refrees, while Inter getting dificulties and losing some players in Important matches against Juve and Milan. How do you want them to win Scudette? In Secondary for example, Very lazy student can get more marks than excellent student if he cheated? That is fact. I do not know why you are so suprise that Inter did not win any title! Do you think bribing refrees was happened only in 2004/2005 season. I do not think this and i believe that bribing was happening long times ago and more than 35 years and the cheaters are well-known now in Italy. Be a clean club and never be a dirty club even if we will lose titles. Juve Fans, your clubs can buy anything, but can not return its honour back.

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Very lazy student can get more marks than excellent student if he cheated?

I cant believe that you could insinuiate [sp?] that Inter is the excellent student If Inter only ever lost 4 games per season [home and away to Milan and Juve] then perhaps you could suggest that the cheating directly resulted in Inter not winning the league. However, when Inter regularly lose more than those 4 games, one wonders how you can claim that Inter are being robbed. If inter won more games, they'd win more trophies

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Originally posted by Peter Intermilano:
Very lazy student can get more marks than excellent student if he cheated?

I cant believe that you could insinuiate [sp?] that Inter is the excellent student If Inter only ever lost 4 games per season [home and away to Milan and Juve] then perhaps you could suggest that the cheating directly resulted in Inter not winning the league. However, when Inter regularly lose more than those 4 games, one wonders how you can claim that Inter are being robbed. If inter won more games, they'd win more trophies

You do not know that Moggi controls 8 Clubs in Calcio and Controls the Italian Players Transfere behind that Juve gave its good players to other clubs like Micoli (SPL) and Milan too. I think that they told these clubs that thier players should not play any game against them and they should gave Juve 3 points when they play against them. Many many dirty ways Juve used to reach to titles and i believe that taken only 2 titles is not enough and not fair.

That's a load of bull!

You're just making crap up to justify your argument.

Or else you're just believing your own hype.

Do you work for a tabloid?

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That's a load of bull!

You're just making crap up to justify your argument.

Or else you're just believing your own hype.

Do you work for a tabloid?

What is it Tabloid!

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by myles2:
That's a load of bull!

You're just making crap up to justify your argument.

Or else you're just believing your own hype.

Do you work for a tabloid?

You too.

They certainly wont win now Milan have only 7 points to gain.

Last 2 scudetti remain blank is still the correct decision

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Originally posted by mikey1892:

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Originally posted by Peter Intermilano:
Very lazy student can get more marks than excellent student if he cheated?

I cant believe that you could insinuiate [sp?] that Inter is the excellent student If Inter only ever lost 4 games per season [home and away to Milan and Juve] then perhaps you could suggest that the cheating directly resulted in Inter not winning the league. However, when Inter regularly lose more than those 4 games, one wonders how you can claim that Inter are being robbed. If inter won more games, they'd win more trophies

Since when have you had to win every game to win the league?
Furthermore, Milan and Juve didnt just throw matches against Inter, did they!?!

Just explain why you are a mess in europe despite playing almost every year. If you believe you are good enough to have won the scudetto but were only cheated by Milan and Juve, (an idea that was clearly escapist and ridiculous), WHY ARE YOU A FAILURE IN EVERY COMPETITION bar the TIM cup? You're just a crap team, accept it and move on.

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Originally posted by sms:
Just explain why you are a mess in europe despite playing almost every year. If you believe you are good enough to have won the scudetto but were only cheated by Milan and Juve, (an idea that was clearly escapist and ridiculous), WHY ARE YOU A FAILURE IN EVERY COMPETITION bar the TIM cup? You're just a crap team, accept it and move on.

How about you explain why Milan have only 6 European cups if they are so suited to the competition?

It's all well and good saying Inter are a mess in this and that competition, but you need that extra bit of luck which obviously has been missing.

If we are going to start comparing teams by how large each of their trophy cabinets are, it's just going to get boring now isn't it?

Chelsea have a ever growing one at the moment, but they don't get alot of praise now do they?.

It's official!

Inter have won their 14th scudetto.

It's been a long time coming but it's been worth it.

CAMPIONI D'ITALIA!!!!

Inter awarded scudetto

The problem with Inter is they look for short term success.Too many players and managers go through it's revolving doors.Fiorentina have had a lot of players come and go but that was because of us being demoted then promoted.Changing the personnel accordingly.
With Inter they're always trying to find the last pieces of the jigsaw.
On Moratti ,sure we'd all like someone to pump £350m into our club and top class players have arrived at Inter.It's spoiled when he expects instant success,it isn't delivered and the manager gets fired.So he gets the latest hot property in management and funds his wish list.Again no real success and the cycle continues.You didn't get Mourinho because of this.He said An Italian club that changes it 's manager every season were after him along with Chelsea.I wonder who that was??
The other problem with Moratti is because he can afford it too many players stay around on high wages.Other clubs would have got rid of Recoba for instance.I know a lot of you Inter fans like him but really has he done enough to be given another contract, and he is certainly a high earner.

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Originally posted by interjambo:
It's official!

Inter have won their 14th scudetto.

It's been a long time coming but it's been worth it.

CAMPIONI D'ITALIA!!!!

Inter awarded scudetto

When's the parade? CHE SCHIFO!!!!!!

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Originally posted by sms:
Just explain why you are a mess in europe despite playing almost every year. If you believe you are good enough to have won the scudetto but were only cheated by Milan and Juve, (an idea that was clearly escapist and ridiculous), WHY ARE YOU A FAILURE IN EVERY COMPETITION bar the TIM cup? You're just a crap team, accept it and move on.

Juve won 27 titles after deducting two titles from them, but they have 2 titles in CL as same as Inter with 2 titles. On the other hand, they won scudetto more than double what inter won. Explain why? eventhough the refree was very rude with Inter in its match against Milan In semi final in CL. We deserved penalty in that match and i believed that Milan and Juve also used thier power (bribing refrees) in CL, but it wasn't as strong as thier power in Calcio. This explain why they did not win many titles in CL.