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Personally, I don't care about the number of foreigners. Teams should be free to assemble the best squad they can, regardless of the nationality of the players.


Of course you don't, you support Arsenal Big Grin


Too right, and at the moment, English players simply aren't good enough. I saw England in the World Cup, and I'm bloody thankful we don't have many English players, they're all crap!

This was the line-up for the last England game:
Robinson, Neville, Terry, Ferdinand, Cole, Gerrard, Hargreaves, Lampard, Downing, Crouch, Defoe.

OK, Terry and Gerrard are world-class. Ferdinand, Hargreaves and Lampard would be useful. Cole, well he was ours. But aside from them (and the injured Rooney) I wouldn't want any of the others. That's seven English players I'd want at Arsenal. If we don't have them, then I'd rather us go for quality foreigners than substandard Englishmen. Crouch, Defoe, Downing? You're having a laugh.

Firstly, they're simply not that good. Secondly, they're massively overpriced. Crouch was £7m. Defoe was £7m + Zamora. Downing is being talked about as a £10m player. What a waste of money! We've just signed Tomas Rosicky for less than that, and he's a far better player than them.

We have Walcott, which is promising - but frankly I don't care whether he's English or Ethiopian, as long as he plays well.
 
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I don't care where players come from, as long as they play well and give 100% (or some other cliché)

Although i do like it when players make it through the youth ranks, but then Roma and Forest have really good youth sides...
 
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I may be old fashioned, but I still like Roma having a good number of Italian players, Celtic some Scottish players, etc....

It does make a difference to a great many fans


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More domestic players on their clubs please. Arsenal with no Englishman? Inter with no Italians?

And they wonder why attendances are decreasing



huh? I don't think Inter and Arsenal fail to attract fans no matter how many foriegners they have.
 
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Personally, I don't care about the number of foreigners. Teams should be free to assemble the best squad they can, regardless of the nationality of the players.


Of course you don't, you support Arsenal Big Grin


Too right, and at the moment, English players simply aren't good enough. I saw England in the World Cup, and I'm bloody thankful we don't have many English players, they're all crap!

This was the line-up for the last England game:
Robinson, Neville, Terry, Ferdinand, Cole, Gerrard, Hargreaves, Lampard, Downing, Crouch, Defoe.

OK, Terry and Gerrard are world-class. Ferdinand, Hargreaves and Lampard would be useful. Cole, well he was ours. But aside from them (and the injured Rooney) I wouldn't want any of the others. That's seven English players I'd want at Arsenal. If we don't have them, then I'd rather us go for quality foreigners than substandard Englishmen. Crouch, Defoe, Downing? You're having a laugh.

Firstly, they're simply not that good. Secondly, they're massively overpriced. Crouch was £7m. Defoe was £7m + Zamora. Downing is being talked about as a £10m player. What a waste of money! We've just signed Tomas Rosicky for less than that, and he's a far better player than them.

We have Walcott, which is promising - but frankly I don't care whether he's English or Ethiopian, as long as he plays well.


Is it a case of teams signing foreigners because English players are not good enough or more English players aren't good enough because foreign players occupy their places?
 
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IMO, it's because English players are not trained well between the ages of 9-16, and therefore aren't good enough.
 
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I have serious doubts about the academies that all clubs have, taking boys as young as 8, then spitting them out at 12/13 when, in their opinion, they don't make the grade (and if you get rejected by Oxford United, how bad are you!) This is putting off others joining the academies as they have seen what has happened to their brothers / friends etc.

I've always been of the opinions that, if you're good enough, you'll get picked up eventually, and you're better off enjoying your football playing at good local teams than being packed of to an academy at an early age.

Never did Stuart Pearce any harm!
 
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IMO, it's because English players are not trained well between the ages of 9-16, and therefore aren't good enough.


Is this at local club level? And if so, which country sets the benchmark for the rest to follow?
 
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Never did Stuart Pearce any harm!


True, but football's progressed so much in the past 10 years - it's so much faster and more technical - I don't think we'll see players coming up through the amateur divisions like Pearce did, because I don't think lower league football is particularly good preparation for the Premiership.
 
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If you are a youngster at Chelsea, why bother. They will go out and sign two top players for every position, 99% of them foreign. You would have to be Pele at 17 to break into the side.


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The three foreigner rule should be re-introduced in Italy and to hell with the EU rules.
Too many italian players are not given enough of a chance. Italian clubs buy foreign players and are prepaired to play young foreign players but not young italian players.
 
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That's why they won the world cup and do continually well at under21 level! Because they don't get to play enough.
 
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I just think in general. The plight of the English player is worse than an Italian player.

At least some of the big Italian clubs still field 4-6 Italians a game. {Milan, Roma, Juve, Fiorentina}, and the smaller sides have even more.


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