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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH  What will I do without C.J's sarcasm Barlet's humble philosophy no more of my J/D fix, no more J/D NO JOSH AND HIS NUMEROUS BREAKDOWNS, SWAGGER AND DOWNRIGHT SEXINESS! Now it's back to Earth with a crash bang wallop as we have a gobshite for POTUS and a WWIII coming up WAAAAAAAAAH
"My father had a profound influence on me. He was a lunatic"
*Meet the new boss...Same as the old boss*
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just finished watching the last 2 epi's and would like to add my bit and say that i thoroughly enjoyed WW over the past 7 series and am sad to see it go. Strong cast, strong scripting; brilliant.
Have been watching Comander in Chief for the past 5 or 6 episodes on ABC1 and think that even though its style and approach is different to WW my appreciation of CIC has been made a hell of a lot easier by WW. I know all the job titles and what they do and have a least a small working knowledge of the US governmental processes. You gota give CIC a bit of time to bed in and I hope it'll be worthy successor to WW. Without WW paving the way who on earth would contemlate the acuality of a liberal female president? Ged Bartlet maybe?
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I loved the last episode, a perfect dignified exit that sat perfectly with the tone of the show as a whole. Nothing sentionalist or attention grabbing, it just ... stopped. All the major characters have closure and all the long running issues are resolved.
However I did find myself wondering how Aaron Sorkin would concluded it. Did anyone spot his cameo by the way?
I wouldn't get too excited about CIC, I read that it's been axed already after one series.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by ronqpr: I loved the last episode, a perfect dignified exit that sat perfectly with the tone of the show as a whole. Nothing sentionalist or attention grabbing, it just ... stopped. All the major characters have closure and all the long running issues are resolved. However I did find myself wondering how Aaron Sorkin would concluded it. Did anyone spot his cameo by the way? QUOTE] I think you have hit the nail on the head - it's not that there was anything fundamentally wrong with the last episode. As you say, it tied up all the loose ends nicely, and it felt like a satisfactory conclusion. But...but....what would Sorkin have done with it? I found myself thinking exactly the same thing, and coming to the conclusion that it would almost certainly have been better. And no - I didn't notice his cameo, but as I don't have a clue what he looks like that's probably not a surprise!  Where was he, and I'll look out for it when I re-watch it later this week on video? |
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I didnt spot it either but I read this
"During the inauguration scene in Sunday's series finale of "The West Wing," the camera panned to several people watching new President Matt Santos (Jimmy Smits) being sworn into office.
There was outgoing President Bartlet (Martin Sheen), his wife, Abby (Stockard Channing), Santos' wife, Helen (Teri Polo) and Bartlet staffers-turned-Santos aides Josh Lyman (Bradley Whitford) and Donna Moss (Janel Moloney). And also one other guy whom you may not have recognized.
During bluesman Keb Mo's rendition of "America the Beautiful," the camera settled on none other than "West Wing" creator Aaron Sorkin for a wordless cameo."
I was thinking back over the last few series', maybe I should start a new thread on this but I don't think the series would have gone the way it did under Sorkin.
Not just the move away from snappy dialogue or the walking conversations but I don't believe Sorkin would have moved so much focus away from The West Wing itself and I don't think he would have split up the staff up as John Wells did.
The last three years would have been very different I'm sure of that much!
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That's a tricky one - I can see where they were coming from by splitting up the team, as they had an eye on the future direction of the show, and were maybe trying to maintain some continuity for the next presidency. I suspect that the show would not have gone off on the tangent of the primaries and the presidential campaign if they had realised that the show would stop with the Bartlett presidency. It would have been nice to see the old team battling to get legislation through while the clock was ticking.
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welcome 2 the show that never ends.
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West wing is being shown from start - all episode all series starting 06/08/06 at 8pm More 4.
if the show all back to back, on a weekly basis, it will take 3.5 years to watch !!
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I re-watched the final two episodes of season 7 over the weekend, and have to admit that I was probably a bit unfair with my original opinion. It was a dignified ending to the show, and really did tie everything up nicely, while leaving a few questions over some of the characters' futures, eg will Kate and Will make a go of it, what of Zoe and Charlie?
Also, knowing what US TV (reflecting US life?)can be like with its rabid patriotism (and the West Wing wasn't always innocent of this charge), it wasn't at all saccharine and sickly. Which is probably quite an achievement when you consider the subject matter of the final episode.....
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watch from the begining and c how bartlet's role expanded 2 him being star of the show. poor rob lowe.
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just watched the last 2 episodes and I think at the time was expecting the last one to be a bit more emotional. However, in retrospect I think they pitched it at just the right level. I enjoyed the post Sorkin era as much as the early times, and thought the seperation of plotlines and characters added to longevity of the programme.
All in all, the best programme ever over such a long period of time. Superb acting, great writing and the right level of personal interest in all the characters.
Thanks to all concerned. My all-time favourite.
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It really is the end of an era, Thankfully for myself I haven’t yet watched the last 10 or so episodes, I have been away at uni and so am waiting for the DVD’s to come out. Does anyone know when this will happen?
I have to agree with most of what has been said, TWW really is a show that will be missed. On one of the threads mentioned how they felt the show would have been very different had Sorkin remained. So here is my question, and please let you imagination go wild, how would of things been different?
If Leo could have been VP now, why was there an issue of his drinking in an earlier series?
Do you think Josh and Donna would have gotten together?
In an episode the President mentions Sam running in the future, how do you think he would do as president?
Will Josh make a good COS, after all Leo did pick CJ?
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quote: Originally posted by goga_1:
It really is the end of an era, Thankfully for myself I haven’t yet watched the last 10 or so episodes, I have been away at uni and so am waiting for the DVD’s to come out. Does anyone know when this will happen?
I think release date is 11th September - check Amazon.
I have to agree with most of what has been said, TWW really is a show that will be missed. On one of the threads mentioned how they felt the show would have been very different had Sorkin remained. So here is my question, and please let you imagination go wild, how would of things been different?
If Leo could have been VP now, why was there an issue of his drinking in an earlier series?
I would think that the real issue back then was the fact that it was a secret and then exposed by the press - it was a really good plotline actually, and one that I am looking forward to seeing again. His drinking wouldn't affect his chances of being an effective VP, so long as he stayed off the booze - and he never seemed to show a weakness in this area. After all, we do currently have a reformed alcoholic as president (in real life).
Do you think Josh and Donna would have gotten together?
If you still need to see the final 10 episodes, this question may have to remain unanswered if you don't want to be spoiled.
In an episode the President mentions Sam running in the future, how do you think he would do as president?
Not sure - he would be very much in the Bartlett mould I would think. Mind you, I can't quite imagine the US public electing another liberal president! I am also not sure whether he would ever make it - could the incident with the call girl come back to haunt him?
Will Josh make a good COS, after all Leo did pick CJ?
An interesting question! I would like to think that he would, though maybe he is a bit too highly strung to be truly effective. Leo choosing CJ, and Josh's feelings about this, were never really explored, but it does seem to smack of a lack of confidence in his deputy to do the job. I know they used this as a plot device so that Josh could team up with Santos, but it is quite a comeback on Josh's part to become COS after this snub don't you think? During season 7, I was actually wondering whether Josh would automatically become COS, but he did. I don't know if it is normal in real life US politics for the campaign manager to become COS, but it happened both times in the WW. |
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I have just won seasons 1-6 on dvd from ebay and can't wait to watch them, the episode that hooked me was "post hoc ergo propter hoc" and CJ is my fav character.
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Nice one. I think I'm going to wait until I can afford the entire series boxset. But at over £120 I'm in no rush. Brilliant series though.
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Can anybody tell me why West Wing always starts about 30 seconds before the advertised starting time of 8.00pm and then irritates me to hell by running the directory ads three or four minutes after starting?
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I believe it has to do with the laws encouraging shorter intervals between ad breaks at the start of a programme, then continuing for much longer intervals as it continues.
I think its a pretty stupid rule though considering how clearly defined the breaks are in US shows.
I was watching the West Wing a few weeks ago and there was a scene where Sam was going into Abigail Bartlett's office (if I remember rightly) and there was a slow fade and some incidental music blatently indicating the start of a break. Then it faded back into the same scene
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I have just watch two cathedrals and I must say that it is one of the most poignant episodes I have ever watched and martin sheen delivers one of the best speeches I have ever heard with great line at the begining talking to god "your a son of a bitch, do you know that", " have i displeased you you feckless thug.
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hey ppl
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