i didnt see him get a gun,bosco took out his gun because cruz drew on faith after faith had drew on cruz.i dont think noble was even in the room,and if he was,he was behind cruz,so he wouldnt have been able to shoot faith.you cant really apply that faith and bosco know each other well,to a situation like that.there are too many holes.
quote:bosco took out his gun because cruz drew on faith after faith had drew on cruz.
That may be so... but the first shot was Bosco shooting Aaron... who from Bosco's position was behind Cruz... so to Faith it looked like he was shooting Cruz... and Faith could well have been in Aaron's line of sight...
I'm sticking with my way till the show tells me different... it's the only way that makes sense and doesn't tie me up in knots wondering!
sorry dont buy it!lol bosco was standing behind cruz,and draws his gun directly towards cruz,not behind cruz,and i dont think faith saw noble,she just wasnt going to let cruz take the gun off her.to be honest im not sure if they actually do clear this up in the upcoming eps,because is started watching half way through season 5 and from the eps showing now,it doesnt feel like they are coming back to it.
quote:Originally posted by tvnutz: sorry dont buy it!lol bosco was standing behind cruz,and draws his gun directly towards cruz,not behind cruz,and i dont think faith saw noble
... the way I saw it Bosco, Cruz and Aaron were in a line... so Bosco was pointing the gun in the direction of both Cruz and Aaron... I don't think Faith saw Aaron either, hence why she shot Cruz...
So who's gun was Faith firing? To me it seemed like it was Noble's as she was in his apartment looking for it and had found it when Cruz came in. She was holding it in a bit of cloth and looked like she was going to give Cruz the "damn gun" when she turned it on Cruz and fired, and the cloth fell to the floor.....
Well I'll have to check my video to make sure anyway.
quote:Originally posted by Cathy M: So who's gun was Faith firing? To me it seemed like it was Noble's as she was in his apartment looking for it and had found it when Cruz came in. She was holding it in a bit of cloth and looked like she was going to give Cruz the "damn gun" when she turned it on Cruz and fired, and the cloth fell to the floor.....
Well I'll have to check my video to make sure anyway.
P.s. I didnt see the bank robbery episode.
Aaron had two guns... the one that Faith found... and the one that Bosco saw him with...
nutz,emma etc watch out for the ep to be shown next thurs at 1 on c4,"a call for help",a very unusual episode with the full ensemble cast in it.a very clever episode i think anyway.
i could have sworn noble walks out the door when cruz tells him to,then walks back in but stays behind cruz,and he is never shown drawing a gun,until i am told otherwise,i dont buy what happened in that room.
quote:Originally posted by tvnutz: i could have sworn noble walks out the door when cruz tells him to,then walks back in but stays behind cruz,and he is never shown drawing a gun,until i am told otherwise,i dont buy what happened in that room.
You definitely don't see him drawing a gun, but if you're watching carefully and you see him walk past Cruz you can see him behind her during the whole of the rest of the sequence...
... nope... I didn't see him pull a gun either... but presumably the police recovered all of the guns from the room, and there should have been five in total... Since Noble was killed during the exchange he couldn't have hidden a gun, and if Bosco's saying he had one then I'm sure someone would have pulled him up on it if they didn't find one on the body.
I do agree that it hasn't all been explained clearly... but I believe bosco's version of events...
you think they would have explained it a lot better,and this isnt a spoiler because i dont know what happens,but it doesnt seem like they are going to come back to it.It seems as if they couldnt get Tom Berenger back and just wrote him out.also i dont see why bosco would bother trying to shoot noble to save cruz when it was faith he cares about and it seems bosco drew his gun in response to cruz drawing on faith.and why would noble go for cruz?because there is no indication at all that noble went for faith.its kind of a long shot to say faith drew because he saw noble draw,and cruz drew because she thought faith drew on her and bosco drew on noble,not cruz because noble aimed at faith with a gun that deosnt seem to exist.ok,honestly i think i am offically confused! lol we have theories but will be really even know! :P
quote:Originally posted by tvnutz: you think they would have explained it a lot better,and this isnt a spoiler because i dont know what happens,but it doesnt seem like they are going to come back to it.It seems as if they couldnt get Tom Berenger back and just wrote him out.also i dont see why bosco would bother trying to shoot noble to save cruz when it was faith he cares about and it seems bosco drew his gun in response to cruz drawing on faith.and why would noble go for cruz?because there is no indication at all that noble went for faith.its kind of a long shot to say faith drew because he saw noble draw,and cruz drew because she thought faith drew on her and bosco drew on noble,not cruz because noble aimed at faith with a gun that deosnt seem to exist.ok,honestly i think i am offically confused! lol we have theories but will be really even know! :P
LOL! ... they were all waving guns around... so I'm sure they had all drawn well before noble! ... as far as I'm aware... Bosco was the only one who saw Noble draw... Bosco and Faith were both looking at Cruz... since she really was waving a gun around... Bosco claims he saw Aaron with a gun (a different gun from the one in Faith's hands!) and shot him... Faith saw him raising a gun in Cruz's direction, and heard a shot... thinking that Bosco had shot Cruz she did too... Cruz having been shot by Faith shot back at Faith...
I don't think they're gonna go back to it either... Bosco did explain it all to Faith... I think the question is whether you believe Bosco or not... and it didn't help that he lied to his boss saying that He shot Cruz... that would have meant that there were four shots which there weren't... he could probably have got away with it though since Cruz was only grazed, so it's impossible to know which bullet actualyl hit her... even if they did bother to CSI the scene...
all this talk about guns and no one has pointed out what a bad shot Faith is, standing right in front of Cruz and she only managed to graze her head with a bullet? that's another thing that's unbelievable about it
4 hours and 5(?) mins till the next episode, still aint watched the one from earlier yet...........
I thought Noble was told to leave by Cruz (?) and I saw him leave and don't remember seeing him come back in the room?
Also that guy in the fire department (don't know his name), I thought he had died from injuries caused by the exploding car (when Alex was killed), but wasn't he back in Fridays lunch-time episode? Now this really IS wierd! Whats going on??
quote:Originally posted by Rastapuss1987: all this talk about guns and no one has pointed out what a bad shot Faith is, standing right in front of Cruz and she only managed to graze her head with a bullet? that's another thing that's unbelievable about it
4 hours and 5(?) mins till the next episode, still aint watched the one from earlier yet...........
*grins* ... to be fair it wasn't her gun...
... however... we already know from the shootout with the Russian mob that Faith is a superb shot... all of the rounds that she fired in that shoot out ended up in the bad guy's chest, and she was a long way away from him... so you kind of have to wonder, why was she aiming for Cruz's head, and why on earth did she miss... of course Cruz could well have reacted to Bosco's shot and moved... and I guess Faith didn't get a chance to fire a second shot...
quote:Originally posted by tvnutz: i wouldnt put it past bosco to lie if it was to help faith.
Oh he did! ... would be shocked if he didn't! ... however I believe he was telling Faith the truth... that version made sense anyway... the one he told the boss didn't make any sense!
quote:Originally posted by Cathy M: I thought Noble was told to leave by Cruz (?) and I saw him leave and don't remember seeing him come back in the room?
As far as I remember he did leave, but he definitely returned, as I watched the very end earlier to clear it up in my mind... honestly when the shots were fired he was behind Cruz from Bosco's perspective.
quote:Also that guy in the fire department (don't know his name), I thought he had died from injuries caused by the exploding car (when Alex was killed), but wasn't he back in Fridays lunch-time episode? Now this really IS wierd! Whats going on??
Liutenant Johnson? ... I didn't notice him... may have to watch that episode again as well! ... only 1hr30mins to go!
ok, last- night epsoide was really good, i was watching it and at the begaining right and then bus run into ambluence, i really hate it when 3rd watch writer do that, it really made me jump out my seat, that never happend to me except for once or twice few years back. anyway Cruz got the guy in the end, she's smart, she knew her work-buddy would do beat up that guy very good. bosco always the last to know when he found cruz got raped he felt sorry for her, now i understand what actually make cruz chacter tick, it wasn't because she's a bad person, it the fact that she a women and make sure she can be as tough as the guys. i really thought that was very brillant of the writer. This epsoide make me feel sorry but last two didn't. i was angry but way bosco treated her after finding out made me realise why she does what she does.
