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Originally posted by Andy McSurfie:
Justin and Becca should definately go and this year.
If they drag this on any further than need be then not only will they lose viewers fed up with the pair but their fans as well when they leave.

Better to lose their fans and keep those who are bored with them happy by getting rid of the them both

It will cost them less in lost viewers that way as well

But if Justin goes that means the whole Burton family will be gone and im sure we would have herd some news about it somewhere?

Don'T worry he's not leaving till next Year,and the thing to make me turn off would be if they got rid of Justin and Becca ,apart from those 2 there is not much worth watching

EDIT:next year at the earliest and Maybe not even then

y kill so many people off

I hope he goes he is getting to be a pain in the rear end now

Good Good. Your right Cushty thats the only good enough storyline to watch now (apart from the fact that id watch it even if it wasnt 'cause im hooked lol)

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Originally posted by Andy McSurfie:
Justin and Becca should definately go and this year.
If they drag this on any further than need be then not only will they lose viewers fed up with the pair but their fans as well when they leave.

Better to lose their fans and keep those who are bored with them happy by getting rid of the them both

It will cost them less in lost viewers that way as well

And who says more people dislike the storyline than like it? The posters on this forum really aren't much to go by, it's only a small amount of viewers.

I have a feeling if the show it's losing viewers it's for reasons other than J/B storylines.

no i dont want Hannah t die!!!

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Originally posted by Jo2005:

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Originally posted by Andy McSurfie:
Justin and Becca should definately go and this year.
If they drag this on any further than need be then not only will they lose viewers fed up with the pair but their fans as well when they leave.

Better to lose their fans and keep those who are bored with them happy by getting rid of the them both

It will cost them less in lost viewers that way as well

And who says more people dislike the storyline than like it? The posters on this forum really aren't much to go by, it's only a small amount of viewers.

I have a feeling if the show it's losing viewers it's for reasons other than J/B storylines.

Over 400,000 viewers have switched off since the start of January. Something had to make them switch off. Besides Justin and Becca are no different to Ben and Izzy/Ben and Lisa. Some though they both made good couples, made a lot of noise about it and what happened, they ended up together. It's significant that when each time that happened Hollyoaks lost a large section of audience before and after their storylines.

I was on the old forum and there were plenty of those fed up with both Ben and Izzy and Ben and Lisa at the end. It's only a matter of time before more and more will get fed up with Justin and Becca if they continue as they are behaving at the moment.

Besides I got a letter back from OfCom about my complaint on Mondays episode where Becca got let off by the CPS as being unrealistic. They said that the full consequences of Becca's action were yet to be seen and that what their interpretaion of CPS meant in the message her solicitor passed on was that the CPS wouldn't be pressing any further charges. That could mean they are still investigating the original charge Becca was arrested on, and Becca misinterpreted what her solicitor had told her.

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Originally posted by Andy McSurfie:

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Originally posted by Jo2005:

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Originally posted by Andy McSurfie:
Justin and Becca should definately go and this year.
If they drag this on any further than need be then not only will they lose viewers fed up with the pair but their fans as well when they leave.

Better to lose their fans and keep those who are bored with them happy by getting rid of the them both

It will cost them less in lost viewers that way as well

And who says more people dislike the storyline than like it? The posters on this forum really aren't much to go by, it's only a small amount of viewers.

I have a feeling if the show it's losing viewers it's for reasons other than J/B storylines.

Over 400,000 viewers have switched off since the start of January. Something had to make them switch off. Besides Justin and Becca are no different to Ben and Izzy/Ben and Lisa. Some though they both made good couples, made a lot of noise about it and what happened, they ended up together. It's significant that when each time that happened Hollyoaks lost a large section of audience before and after their storylines.

I was on the old forum and there were plenty of those fed up with both Ben and Izzy and Ben and Lisa at the end. It's only a matter of time before more and more will get fed up with Justin and Becca if they continue as they are behaving at the moment.

Besides I got a letter back from OfCom about my complaint on Mondays episode where Becca got let off by the CPS as being unrealistic. They said that the full consequences of Becca's action were yet to be seen and that what their interpretaion of CPS meant in the message her solicitor passed on was that the CPS wouldn't be pressing any further charges. That could mean they are still investigating the original charge Becca was arrested on, and Becca misinterpreted what her solicitor had told her.

I appreciate how you feel about the J/B story and I understand, but in no why agree with, your campaign to bring it to an end as quickly as possible (although why you appear to have becoming so emotionally involved in a storyline you detest baffles me). But you are entitled to your opinion, although whether the 400,000 that have 'switched' off since January share you views is open to speculation! I would like to ask you one question though, you were obviously not satisfied that the charges against Becca were dropped and that she has not been punished for her 'crime' (although she is about to lose her job!) so you wrote to OfCom complaining. I wonder did you write and complain to OfCom when Joe committed an act of fraud but suffered absolutely no consequences as a result? I wonder what you feel about the impression this gives the 'young people' watching this show? Surely he has also committed a crime and must be punished accordingly!!!!

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Originally posted by smolie:

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Originally posted by Andy McSurfie:

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Originally posted by Jo2005:

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Originally posted by Andy McSurfie:
Justin and Becca should definately go and this year.
If they drag this on any further than need be then not only will they lose viewers fed up with the pair but their fans as well when they leave.

Better to lose their fans and keep those who are bored with them happy by getting rid of the them both

It will cost them less in lost viewers that way as well

And who says more people dislike the storyline than like it? The posters on this forum really aren't much to go by, it's only a small amount of viewers.

I have a feeling if the show it's losing viewers it's for reasons other than J/B storylines.

Over 400,000 viewers have switched off since the start of January. Something had to make them switch off. Besides Justin and Becca are no different to Ben and Izzy/Ben and Lisa. Some though they both made good couples, made a lot of noise about it and what happened, they ended up together. It's significant that when each time that happened Hollyoaks lost a large section of audience before and after their storylines.

I was on the old forum and there were plenty of those fed up with both Ben and Izzy and Ben and Lisa at the end. It's only a matter of time before more and more will get fed up with Justin and Becca if they continue as they are behaving at the moment.

Besides I got a letter back from OfCom about my complaint on Mondays episode where Becca got let off by the CPS as being unrealistic. They said that the full consequences of Becca's action were yet to be seen and that what their interpretaion of CPS meant in the message her solicitor passed on was that the CPS wouldn't be pressing any further charges. That could mean they are still investigating the original charge Becca was arrested on, and Becca misinterpreted what her solicitor had told her.

I appreciate how you feel about the J/B story and I understand, but in no why agree with, your campaign to bring it to an end as quickly as possible (although why you appear to have becoming so emotionally involved in a storyline you detest baffles me). But you are entitled to your opinion, although whether the 400,000 that have 'switched' off since January share you views is open to speculation! I would like to ask you one question though, you were obviously not satisfied that the charges against Becca were dropped and that she has not been punished for her 'crime' (although she is about to lose her job!) so you wrote to OfCom complaining. I wonder did you write and complain to OfCom when Joe committed an act of fraud but suffered absolutely no consequences as a result? I wonder what you feel about the impression this gives the 'young people' watching this show? Surely he has also committed a crime and must be punished accordingly!!!!

I agree with this. It seems like andy is reading too much into what he has been told and also his complaint seems a bit much. And i still don't think the loss of viewers is down to justin/becca.

Andy, i do respect your opinion but i can't agree with it and i just find it really hard to see where you're coming from.

Jo did suffer though as he would have received a credit black listing. Besides as Louise said his clothes and designs became college property after his fake death scam to pay his debts Also he lost the money from his clothes he sold as the buyer didn't pay up. In essence he did get his just deserts. He may not have faced criminal charges, but there again Jez didn't press them since it was his name that Joe had used. Jez most likely wiped off the debt run up in his name but he told Joe he didn't want anything else to do with him afterwards.

Fraud is one thing but commiting a sexual offence like Becca did is regarded as far more serious. As for losing her job, then if the borad of eduction/school governors think there is sufficient evidence that Becca broke the law regarding Abuse of Trust then the CPS should have. At the moment the most they can do now is ask Becca to resign (it's illegal now to sack someone due to a corut ruling), but couldn't stop her from teaching again.

The law says clearly that bar a very few limited definitions that no one in a position of authority over a minor can have sexual relations with that minor regardless whether they are about the age of consent and the relationship is consensual if that minor is under the age of 18.

Besides as OfCom wrote back and said the episode was misinterpreted. They watched it and obviously got in contact with Mersey TV about it and OfCom said that Becca is still yet to be seen to face the FULL consequences of her actions.

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Originally posted by Jo2005:

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Originally posted by smolie:

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Originally posted by Andy McSurfie:

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Originally posted by Jo2005:

quote:

Originally posted by Andy McSurfie:
Justin and Becca should definately go and this year.
If they drag this on any further than need be then not only will they lose viewers fed up with the pair but their fans as well when they leave.

Better to lose their fans and keep those who are bored with them happy by getting rid of the them both

It will cost them less in lost viewers that way as well

And who says more people dislike the storyline than like it? The posters on this forum really aren't much to go by, it's only a small amount of viewers.

I have a feeling if the show it's losing viewers it's for reasons other than J/B storylines.

Over 400,000 viewers have switched off since the start of January. Something had to make them switch off. Besides Justin and Becca are no different to Ben and Izzy/Ben and Lisa. Some though they both made good couples, made a lot of noise about it and what happened, they ended up together. It's significant that when each time that happened Hollyoaks lost a large section of audience before and after their storylines.

I was on the old forum and there were plenty of those fed up with both Ben and Izzy and Ben and Lisa at the end. It's only a matter of time before more and more will get fed up with Justin and Becca if they continue as they are behaving at the moment.

Besides I got a letter back from OfCom about my complaint on Mondays episode where Becca got let off by the CPS as being unrealistic. They said that the full consequences of Becca's action were yet to be seen and that what their interpretaion of CPS meant in the message her solicitor passed on was that the CPS wouldn't be pressing any further charges. That could mean they are still investigating the original charge Becca was arrested on, and Becca misinterpreted what her solicitor had told her.

I appreciate how you feel about the J/B story and I understand, but in no why agree with, your campaign to bring it to an end as quickly as possible (although why you appear to have becoming so emotionally involved in a storyline you detest baffles me). But you are entitled to your opinion, although whether the 400,000 that have 'switched' off since January share you views is open to speculation! I would like to ask you one question though, you were obviously not satisfied that the charges against Becca were dropped and that she has not been punished for her 'crime' (although she is about to lose her job!) so you wrote to OfCom complaining. I wonder did you write and complain to OfCom when Joe committed an act of fraud but suffered absolutely no consequences as a result? I wonder what you feel about the impression this gives the 'young people' watching this show? Surely he has also committed a crime and must be punished accordingly!!!!

I agree with this. It seems like andy is reading too much into what he has been told and also his complaint seems a bit much. And i still don't think the loss of viewers is down to justin/becca.

Andy, i do respect your opinion but i can't agree with it and i just find it really hard to see where you're coming from.

I am pretty sure the storyline has lost them viewers, in fact with mandy gone, and nothing much else going on there, i am pretty sure to miss it here and there because there is nothing on it, and I am sure that they do take into account what viewers think, brian kirkwood lied in his opening interview, and that is something he should not have done, who is going to take anything he says seriously?
So he brings in a tactless family to watch?! All I need to do is go to the council estate round here to see that, I don't need it rammed down my throat on Hollyoaks, mercedes and her sister are really horrible characters. Unless they change something for the better, there will be no point for a lot of people to keep tunning in apart from habit, even those 'masses' who love the Justin and Becca Storyline will get bored of it eventually, there is only so much these two can do to keep audiences. So they won a BSA, that is nice, but they did not deserve that particular award, and before you say they did, I am pretty sure other awards were granted to other soaps and actors, which you did not agree with. the andy storyline deserved an awards, warren brown deserved an award.
Hollyoaks has a lot of making up to do, especially to those who dont care for the schoolboy love story. There is no balance.

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Originally posted by Andy McSurfie:
Jo did suffer though as he would have received a credit black listing. Besides as Louise said his clothes and designs became college property after his fake death scam to pay his debts Also he lost the money from his clothes he sold as the buyer didn't pay up. In essence he did get his just deserts. He may not have faced criminal charges, but there again Jez didn't press them since it was his name that Joe had used. Jez most likely wiped off the debt run up in his name but he told Joe he didn't want anything else to do with him afterwards.

Fraud is one thing but commiting a sexual offence like Becca did is regarded as far more serious. As for losing her job, then if the borad of eduction/school governors think there is sufficient evidence that Becca broke the law regarding Abuse of Trust then the CPS should have. At the moment the most they can do now is ask Becca to resign (it's illegal now to sack someone due to a corut ruling), but couldn't stop her from teaching again.

The law says clearly that bar a very few limited definitions that no one in a position of authority over a minor can have sexual relations with that minor regardless whether they are about the age of consent and the relationship is consensual if that minor is under the age of 18.

Besides as OfCom wrote back and said the episode was misinterpreted. They watched it and obviously got in contact with Mersey TV about it and OfCom said that Becca is still yet to be seen to face the FULL consequences of her actions.

Must have been what I thought, it was the mothers complaint that got dropped, not the schools complaint.

I think that in the course of the investigations that other possible charges might have been brought against Becca. After all the police and the CPS only had Becca and Justin's word the affair started after Justin turned 16. They would have to investigate that they might be lying - even though we know different. They would also have - given the nature of the offence - had to investigate the possiblities that Justin wasn't the only student Becca had an affair with.

I'm wondering if what Becca heard was mis-interpreted by her -and the writers wrote the scens as well - making it sound as though Becca had tthought all the charges dropped against her, when infact she still is facing the original charge.

I also find it odd that the CPS would tell Becca's solicitor anyhow, and this soon given that she was told she had to report back to the police station 6 weeks after her arrest. It would be very un-realistic for the CPS to rush through a verdict and tell a solicitor, who then tells their client since Becca would have to hear it officially from the Police the CPS were dropping all charges and not the solicitor.

Then there is the other matter. When Becca was arrested Justin hadn't moved in with her. If the police, CPS and school don't know he is living with Becca now, then it might also mean Becca will face fresh charges.

There is also one other possiblity and that is the CPS might not have decided to prosecute Becca and that is what information was passed onto the police, but still be concidering that she might only warrant a police caution if the school find her guilty of breaking the Abuse of Trust laws and breaking her contract as regards Student/Teacher confidentiality. That result would still be the same as she would still be classed a Sex Offender and have to sign the register.

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Originally posted by llloXolll:

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Originally posted by Jo2005:

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Originally posted by smolie:

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Originally posted by Andy McSurfie:

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Originally posted by Jo2005:

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Originally posted by Andy McSurfie:
Justin and Becca should definately go and this year.
If they drag this on any further than need be then not only will they lose viewers fed up with the pair but their fans as well when they leave.

Better to lose their fans and keep those who are bored with them happy by getting rid of the them both

It will cost them less in lost viewers that way as well

And who says more people dislike the storyline than like it? The posters on this forum really aren't much to go by, it's only a small amount of viewers.

I have a feeling if the show it's losing viewers it's for reasons other than J/B storylines.

Over 400,000 viewers have switched off since the start of January. Something had to make them switch off. Besides Justin and Becca are no different to Ben and Izzy/Ben and Lisa. Some though they both made good couples, made a lot of noise about it and what happened, they ended up together. It's significant that when each time that happened Hollyoaks lost a large section of audience before and after their storylines.

I was on the old forum and there were plenty of those fed up with both Ben and Izzy and Ben and Lisa at the end. It's only a matter of time before more and more will get fed up with Justin and Becca if they continue as they are behaving at the moment.

Besides I got a letter back from OfCom about my complaint on Mondays episode where Becca got let off by the CPS as being unrealistic. They said that the full consequences of Becca's action were yet to be seen and that what their interpretaion of CPS meant in the message her solicitor passed on was that the CPS wouldn't be pressing any further charges. That could mean they are still investigating the original charge Becca was arrested on, and Becca misinterpreted what her solicitor had told her.

I appreciate how you feel about the J/B story and I understand, but in no why agree with, your campaign to bring it to an end as quickly as possible (although why you appear to have becoming so emotionally involved in a storyline you detest baffles me). But you are entitled to your opinion, although whether the 400,000 that have 'switched' off since January share you views is open to speculation! I would like to ask you one question though, you were obviously not satisfied that the charges against Becca were dropped and that she has not been punished for her 'crime' (although she is about to lose her job!) so you wrote to OfCom complaining. I wonder did you write and complain to OfCom when Joe committed an act of fraud but suffered absolutely no consequences as a result? I wonder what you feel about the impression this gives the 'young people' watching this show? Surely he has also committed a crime and must be punished accordingly!!!!

I agree with this. It seems like andy is reading too much into what he has been told and also his complaint seems a bit much. And i still don't think the loss of viewers is down to justin/becca.

Andy, i do respect your opinion but i can't agree with it and i just find it really hard to see where you're coming from.

I am pretty sure the storyline has lost them viewers, in fact with mandy gone, and nothing much else going on there, i am pretty sure to miss it here and there because there is nothing on it, and I am sure that they do take into account what viewers think, brian kirkwood lied in his opening interview, and that is something he should not have done, who is going to take anything he says seriously?
So he brings in a tactless family to watch?! All I need to do is go to the council estate round here to see that, I don't need it rammed down my throat on Hollyoaks, mercedes and her sister are really horrible characters. Unless they change something for the better, there will be no point for a lot of people to keep tunning in apart from habit, even those 'masses' who love the Justin and Becca Storyline will get bored of it eventually, there is only so much these two can do to keep audiences. So they won a BSA, that is nice, but they did not deserve that particular award, and before you say they did, I am pretty sure other awards were granted to other soaps and actors, which you did not agree with. the andy storyline deserved an awards, warren brown deserved an award.
Hollyoaks has a lot of making up to do, especially to those who dont care for the schoolboy love story. There is no balance.

It may well have lost them viewers, but it has also gained them viewers as well, myself included! I watched Hollyoaks on and off up until Christmas and was gutted to find I'd missed the episode where J/B got together. Ever since then I have watched HO every day, without fail, and I know for a fact lots of people have been drawn back to HO because of this storyline. I think Hollyoaks is improving and I'm looking forward to plenty of the new storylines coming up. Do you have nothing positive to say about this programme, I don't think I've read one post of yours that has anything good to say, which makes me wonder why you still watch! Why you are not one of the 400,000 viewers that have switched off! Not every storyline in a soap appeals to every viewer but surely something about the programme holds your interest? I find some of the storylines boring/annoying but I don't come on here moaning constantly about them or consider switching off because of them! Hollyoaks needs the support of viewers if its to become bigger and better, you are not going to like every storyline that would be impossible but just because you do not like or agree with a certain storyline does not mean hundreds upon thousands of viewers agree with you and that it is the end of the soap!!!!!! Many may share your opinion but I'm quite sure just as many do not!

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Originally posted by llloXolll:

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Originally posted by Jo2005:

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Originally posted by smolie:

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Originally posted by Andy McSurfie:

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Originally posted by Jo2005:

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Originally posted by Andy McSurfie:
Justin and Becca should definately go and this year.
If they drag this on any further than need be then not only will they lose viewers fed up with the pair but their fans as well when they leave.

Better to lose their fans and keep those who are bored with them happy by getting rid of the them both

It will cost them less in lost viewers that way as well

And who says more people dislike the storyline than like it? The posters on this forum really aren't much to go by, it's only a small amount of viewers.

I have a feeling if the show it's losing viewers it's for reasons other than J/B storylines.

Over 400,000 viewers have switched off since the start of January. Something had to make them switch off. Besides Justin and Becca are no different to Ben and Izzy/Ben and Lisa. Some though they both made good couples, made a lot of noise about it and what happened, they ended up together. It's significant that when each time that happened Hollyoaks lost a large section of audience before and after their storylines.

I was on the old forum and there were plenty of those fed up with both Ben and Izzy and Ben and Lisa at the end. It's only a matter of time before more and more will get fed up with Justin and Becca if they continue as they are behaving at the moment.

Besides I got a letter back from OfCom about my complaint on Mondays episode where Becca got let off by the CPS as being unrealistic. They said that the full consequences of Becca's action were yet to be seen and that what their interpretaion of CPS meant in the message her solicitor passed on was that the CPS wouldn't be pressing any further charges. That could mean they are still investigating the original charge Becca was arrested on, and Becca misinterpreted what her solicitor had told her.

I appreciate how you feel about the J/B story and I understand, but in no why agree with, your campaign to bring it to an end as quickly as possible (although why you appear to have becoming so emotionally involved in a storyline you detest baffles me). But you are entitled to your opinion, although whether the 400,000 that have 'switched' off since January share you views is open to speculation! I would like to ask you one question though, you were obviously not satisfied that the charges against Becca were dropped and that she has not been punished for her 'crime' (although she is about to lose her job!) so you wrote to OfCom complaining. I wonder did you write and complain to OfCom when Joe committed an act of fraud but suffered absolutely no consequences as a result? I wonder what you feel about the impression this gives the 'young people' watching this show? Surely he has also committed a crime and must be punished accordingly!!!!

I agree with this. It seems like andy is reading too much into what he has been told and also his complaint seems a bit much. And i still don't think the loss of viewers is down to justin/becca.

Andy, i do respect your opinion but i can't agree with it and i just find it really hard to see where you're coming from.

I am pretty sure the storyline has lost them viewers, in fact with mandy gone, and nothing much else going on there, i am pretty sure to miss it here and there because there is nothing on it, and I am sure that they do take into account what viewers think, brian kirkwood lied in his opening interview, and that is something he should not have done, who is going to take anything he says seriously?
So he brings in a tactless family to watch?! All I need to do is go to the council estate round here to see that, I don't need it rammed down my throat on Hollyoaks, mercedes and her sister are really horrible characters. Unless they change something for the better, there will be no point for a lot of people to keep tunning in apart from habit, even those 'masses' who love the Justin and Becca Storyline will get bored of it eventually, there is only so much these two can do to keep audiences. So they won a BSA, that is nice, but they did not deserve that particular award, and before you say they did, I am pretty sure other awards were granted to other soaps and actors, which you did not agree with. the andy storyline deserved an awards, warren brown deserved an award.
Hollyoaks has a lot of making up to do, especially to those who dont care for the schoolboy love story. There is no balance.

I do disagree that the storyline didn't deserve the award it got. It did. It has been well executed and has been well built up. If you watch closely enough, in every soap you see that most of the BIG storylines are built up gradually over a long length of time. (Sharon/Dennis in EE for example of Katy murdering her dad in corrie). There's always a build up and it can take a couple of years to build up but you don't complain about them or say that they're costing the show viewers.

It's the same with the J/B storyline, it has been building up over a year or so and then at christmas the story really took off. It takes time to build a strong storyline if you want to do it well. And Hollyoaks is doing this one brilliantly, they're taking a controversial issue, making you think about it because we care about the characters and that is what makes it great.

But i agree that Warren Brown deserved an award too. His exit so should have won.