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The best statement yet!

JP loves Kieron. He will ask him to marry him. He's not "upset" now because quite frankly, his family is in shambles and he partly blames himself for it, so in a way, Kieron's absence is a godsend. Hence, no breakdown. I mean good grief, his sister almost died.


But Kieron isn't just absent. As I said, it's not as if Kieron went away for a long weekend and left a note. JP has no idea where he went or if he'll EVER see him again. He could be gone for good, for all JP knows. You consider a loved one up and leaving, abandoning them, when they know their partner's sister nearly died, to be a "godsend"?

Does JP propose out of "love" or does he propose for another reason, after a fight with Kieron perhaps, with Kieron thinking maybe the relationship can't withstand the pressure of Myra's displeasure and thinks about breaking things off? Or does another mention of Craig by someone cause JP to move his relationship with Kieron to the next level?

Not to mention the fact that Craig proposed to Sarah, too, but if you recall, it wasn't out of love and it wasn't because he had thought it out and planned it or that he even wanted to get married.

More mirroring, I suspect. We'll find out soon enough.


he did love her tho :/ he said it a million times. 'its not better... its not worse'




I think for the concept of sarah and keiron the terminlogy for me that best fits is

I love you but an not IN LOVE with you... (hence not real love)

both loves are being given logivity because of issues in the JP and Craigs head..

JP trying to correct the past and not beliveing he will every find anyone after Craig

and for Craig it was fear




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You know what i just think its sad that it would give you such joy to see a lot of fans upset but hey if thats the kind of thing that makes you tick.....and thanks MJ, totally agree.xx


And in what way is this different from Craig fans that hope Kieron will be killed off soon?
This also will make upset a lot of fans.

You know what I like about McDeaners? Their objectivity of course.


Actually am a mcdeaner and dont want Keiron killed of. I think he is a character with potential.

The comment is if you are a Keiron fan.. why would you want him to leave, why would you want him with someone who still obviously loves some one else.

I like keiron but not with JP because JP doesnt love him, there is a relationship of outside factor Keirons crisis of faith and the need for love and JP trying to get over Craig

I want a SE when James where naturally going to leave as the the mcdean story is the story journey of jp live his first love that was never properly explored.

So no its not about seeing people upset it about a naturally honest end to the story.



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Maria completely agree with what your saying x


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You know what i just think its sad that it would give you such joy to see a lot of fans upset but hey if thats the kind of thing that makes you tick.....and thanks MJ, totally agree.xx


And in what way is this different from Craig fans that hope Kieron will be killed off soon?
This also will make upset a lot of fans.

You know what I like about McDeaners? Their objectivity of course.


Actually, if you read around you'd see that most mcdeaners DONT want K killed off and personally i have never said i would laugh if it happens, so i can only speak for myself.

I have nothing against GENUINE JPK fans and hope they get to keep Kieron.


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I still don't understand this mcdean "thing" that JP is incapable of loving another man. Care to explain Maria:-)
 
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I still don't understand this mcdean "thing" that JP is incapable of loving another man. Care to explain Maria:-)


I'm not Maria and Im sure she'll explain in detail. But in my view at least, its not that he's 'incapable of loving another man' it's that he's still totally in love with Craig. As I believe we are about to see for ourselves Big Grin
 
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I still don't understand this mcdean "thing" that JP is incapable of loving another man. Care to explain Maria:-)


I'm not Maria and Im sure she'll explain in detail. But in my view at least, its not that he's 'incapable of loving another man' it's that he's still totally in love with Craig. As I believe we are about to see for ourselves Big Grin


Let's go on that theory then....if James Sutton was on the show for five more years and let's say his storyline had him in a three-year plus relationship, would you still feel that he was totally in love with Craig? Is it a time factor or do mcdeaners think that even a 60 year old JP still loves Craig?
 
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The best statement yet!

JP loves Kieron. He will ask him to marry him. He's not "upset" now because quite frankly, his family is in shambles and he partly blames himself for it, so in a way, Kieron's absence is a godsend. Hence, no breakdown. I mean good grief, his sister almost died.


But Kieron isn't just absent. As I said, it's not as if Kieron went away for a long weekend and left a note. JP has no idea where he went or if he'll EVER see him again. He could be gone for good, for all JP knows. You consider a loved one up and leaving, abandoning them, when they know their partner's sister nearly died, to be a "godsend"?

Does JP propose out of "love" or does he propose for another reason, after a fight with Kieron perhaps, with Kieron thinking maybe the relationship can't withstand the pressure of Myra's displeasure and thinks about breaking things off? Or does another mention of Craig by someone cause JP to move his relationship with Kieron to the next level?

Not to mention the fact that Craig proposed to Sarah, too, but if you recall, it wasn't out of love and it wasn't because he had thought it out and planned it or that he even wanted to get married.

More mirroring, I suspect. We'll find out soon enough.


he did love her tho :/ he said it a million times. 'its not better... its not worse'




I think for the concept of sarah and keiron the terminlogy for me that best fits is

I love you but an not IN LOVE with you... (hence not real love)

both loves are being given logivity because of issues in the JP and Craigs head..

JP trying to correct the past and not beliveing he will every find anyone after Craig

and for Craig it was fear

lmao "its not better... its not worse" im still not convinced *shrug* he said it a mill times. he never said "i love you sarah but im INlove with johnpaul". he just kept saying he loved them both. i doubt youll ever convince me so dont worry about it i guess. its how i see it, and thats how you see it.


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I think that Craig's " I do love you, but I LOVE John Paul" speech made it pretty clear that he loved Sarah but was in love with John Paul.
 
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an SE with JP&C will be really predictable but what is more predictable is if the writers do the exact opisite, therefore i think JP will leave with Craig =]
 
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