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Thoughts on "Doomsday"

Daleks/Cybermen - Man, they are selfish little blighters aren't they? I bet the Cybermen were only expecting The Doctor and not a bunch of pepper pots to be a pain. So the Cybermen's effective was taken from them. First by the Daleks killing them (did they even hurt one Dalek?), then by The Doctor and Rose sending them to hell.

Genesis Ark - Little confused by this. It contained millions of Daleks, yet it stems from the timelords. I was hoping Captain Jack would've came through as well but i'll wait for ...

Torchwood - Is this place officially closed for business or what? I knew that everyone on Torchwood would be casualties and this episode proved me right. Can't wait to see how they reband with Captain Jack.

Yvonne/Rajesh - Nasty deaths all round but expected. Yvonne was made effective as a Cyberman though. She retained her own voice, emotions and even killed a few Cybermen.

Pete/Jackie - The great love that is - again! I liked their little quarrelling and I found Pete's denial of both Jackie/Rose understandable. He did proved he loved them by taking them both to the alternative earth. Jackie's three months pregnant too.

Mickey - It was him who opened the Genesis Ark, retaining a little of the "idiot" but I still enjoyed him throughout this episode.

Jake - What happened to this guy? He didn't get killed or get pulled into hell and i'm unsure of whether he returned to the alternative earth. If he's around, I wouldn't mind seeing him again.

The Doctor/Rose - Wow, in terms of final episodes together, this was heartbreaking and Rose still lived. The alternate reality ensured the possibility of her coming back if Billie wants but Rose got a fantastic swansong here. I actually cried, it was that well done.

The Runaway Bride - Catherine Tate in a brodal gown as part of our 2006 Christmas Special. Because people warmed so well to Peter Kay.

Beyond excellent 10/10.


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Quotes ...

Cyberman (re being better): “What’s that?”
Dalek: “You are better at dying”.

Rose (to a Dalek): “Five million Cybermen – easy. One Doctor, now you’re scared”.

Pete (re Jackie): “My wife died”
The Doctor: “Her husband died, good match”.

Jake (to The Doctor): “You’re sending the Daleks and Cybermen to hell?”
Mickey: “Told you he was good”.

The Doctor (re Jackie): “You may never see her again, your own mother”
Rose: “I made my choice a long time ago and I’m never gonna leave you”.

The Doctor (to Rose): “Here you are, living a life day after day. An adventure I can’t have”.

Rose: “When I am gonna see you again?”
The Doctor: “You can’t”.

Review ...

http://www.tv.com/doctor-who-2005/doomsday-2/episode/58...tml?review_id=228436


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My only 2 problms with this episode were.....

1) Yvonne rebelling as a cyberwoman
2) Pete/Rose not getting sucked into the void, they were both surrounded by void stuff and only a few seconds earlier he said his button thing wasn't working anymore......

Aside from that, fantastic!


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There should be life post Rose. I'll miss her dearly but the show should be able to move on like the old series did when assistants left.


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"Some months ago at the GallifreyOne convention in LA, my friend Derek and I noted that, in many ways, Christopher Eccleston leaving the series would not be as great a blow as the loss of Billie Piper. Now that she’s been and gone, I think we can safely say we were right in our estimations. It’s not without reason that series two’s “School Reunion” brought Rose face to face with Sarah Jane Smith. Both women had a quality that set them apart from the parade of girls that have come and gone from the TARDIS. There was something just a little bit different about those Doctor-companion relationships—“Doomsday” finally named it, though anyone paying attention has known it was there for over a year. It is, without a doubt, love.


For years, the Doctor has been characterized, for the most part, as an asexual alien. His companions seemed to be an audience for his adventures—men and women around to witness his good works, a support group of sorts. Some of them, as Mickey so eloquently puts it, are “tin dogs”—the equivalent of interns so excited to be in the Doctor’s presence that they’ll tackle any menial task to stay in his glow. Others, like Adric and Adam, are merely annoyances he can’t be rid of quick enough. Then there are the fellow travelers that touch his hearts in ways he doesn’t expect—those are the ones that leave a mark on him and the viewer. Susan. Jo. Sarah Jane. Tegan. Ace. Rose. These are the goodbyes that give him, and us, pause (Ace didn’t get a proper farewell courtesy of the show’s cancellation in 1989, but I’ll infer that it would have been quite a scene had it happened).


With Susan, we have an obvious emotional tie as she’s his granddaughter, a relationship never defined on a biological level, but assumed by most to carry the same import as the human equivalent. She’s the last of the Doctor’s family so when he leaves her on 21st Century Earth, he’s not just leaving a grandchild, but the last symbolic representation of his former life. Jo’s relationship is essentially defined in her final scene with the Doctor as she leaves him to marry “a younger version” in the form of Dr. Clifford Jones in—she’s the girl who sees you as a friend and runs off with a bloke just like you. Sarah we’ll save for later. Tegan is like every annoying sister since the dawn of television and the Doctor’s disappointment when she ditches him after the carnage of “Resurrection of the Daleks” has all the portent of a slap on the face from an angry sibling. Ace, probably the best-developed companion of the original run, is the Doctor’s protégé—the daughter he (might have) never had. The show’s final season found him systematically developing Ace toward an uncertain goal. Had the series continued, it’s rumored that she would have been taken to Gallifrey to become the first alien Time Lady in the stagnant planet’s history. In Ace, the Doctor saw a successor in the most intimate sense.


Sarah Jane and Rose are doubtless shadows of Susan’s grandmother. Both are fiercely intelligent and capable women with a sense of wonder and joy for discovery. The scenes between the two women are electric. Each sees herself in the other and the Doctor’s reaction to the two women coming face to face is perfectly summed up by Mickey’s assessment that nothing is scarier than when the wife meets the ex. Elisabeth Sladen’s phenomenal performance leaves absolutely no doubt as to her character’s feelings for the Doctor. Rose’s final words to the Doctor in “Doomsday” say what Sarah never had the chance to and the Doctor’s unheard response does more to humanize the character than the preceding 43 years of material.


Ancillary texts aside, “Rose” suggests that the Doctor had been on his own for some time before his chance meeting in Henrik’s department store. During that gap, he’s witnessed (and been responsible for) the destruction of his entire culture in the Time War. This makes his decision to take on a new companion a much weightier affair and suitably ups the import of Rose joining him in the TARDIS. Without a home of his home, the Doctor effectively adopts the Powell Estate, along with Jackie Tyler and Mickey Smith as a substitute home (particularly after his ninth regeneration). More than just a companion, in and of herself, Rose is an anchor to a world he can come back to. There’s little doubt that the Doctor has spent the bulk of his 900 years traveling as a visitor to the Earth. His exile back in the 70s and/or 80s resulted in a very similar extended family thanks to UNIT, but unlike Jo Grant, Rose Tyler reciprocated the Doctor’s affections resulting in a true sense of family for the first time since the loss of Susan.


Of course, Billie Piper’s charisma and intrinsically adorable nature were far from hurdles to her characters success. Against both Eccleston and Tennant, Piper held her own, and, much like Sophie Aldred’s Ace in the original series’ final year, she was the star of DOCTOR WHO with the bulk of the narrative unfolding through her perspective. She will, in every sense of the phrase, be a hard act to follow. Back in that conversation with Derek, I hypothesized that a second companion (i.e. Jack Harkness) would be necessary to ease the loss of Rose. Russell T. Davies has offered an alternate means of softening the blow. The final minutes of “Doomsday” have introduced a short-term companion to bridge the gap between Rose and the incoming Martha. Donna, the eponymous runaway bride of next December’s Christmas special, will, in a sense, fulfill the same purpose as the companionless story “The Deadly Assassin” served after Sarah’s departure. She’ll provide a buffer between a woman who will probably epitomize the role of the Doctor’s companion for years to come and Freema Agyeman who, unbeknownst to us, could very well turn out to be the Emma Peel to Rose’s Cathy Gale."
 
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He might not, it will be platonic. Even Russell wouldn't be able to pull that off all the time.


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What makes you think that Rose wasn't judged on these things as well as being loved by The Doctor?


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i still don't get this bad wolf thing?
 
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the whole bad wolf thing?
 
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note no mention in current season
 
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i saw in Evening standard they started fliming Christmas episode according to the fact it was bloody hot-can u imagine flim in this weather Eek
 
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thanks for posting that up Smile
 
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don't like doctor who

never got into it


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Ressurecting this thread as the one in the Cult Forum is being executed sometime today in the big Channel 4 forum eviction.


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i miss terms/ninja Crying


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