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Mickey certainly has grown and matured since we first saw him cowering away from the Doctor and Tardis in the first episode.


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Doctor: You`re an echo. That`s all. A TimeLord is so much more. A sum of knowledge; a code. A shared history. A shared suffering. Only it`s gone now, all of it. Gone forever.
 
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He's a good comic character too


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I actually hope we see less of that now, but that problay wont be the case

anywyas I watched the episode again, and Finch wasnt effected by the oil like the rest of the Kyriltine, but it would be hard for him to survive a blowing up like that.


Did you watch the Confidential that followed this episode?

It actually showed how much green gunk was splattered onto the actors. In slomo Big Grin

yeuk.


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Hotel introduces 'Doctor Who' break

Sunday, April 30 2006, 10:30 BST - by Daniel Kilkelly
A hotel in Cardiff is offering a special Doctor Who break for fans of the show.

The Park Plaza offers guests a special guidebook containing details of where scenes have been filmed for the hit series, including a theatre, churches and department stores.

Hotel marketing director Caroline Sims told Wales on Sunday, "The Doctor Who following is phenomenal. Everyone recognises the Tardis and now they recognise it as a part of Cardiff. We're now seen as a sexy city to visit."

The special package costs £130 for two including bed and breakfast. If the idea proves to be a success, the hotel plans to offer special tours and talks for dedicated fans.
 
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would be nice if they could get an actor involed with it


That`s how the first convention started.

Way back in the 60s with Star Trek.


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Doctor: You`re an echo. That`s all. A TimeLord is so much more. A sum of knowledge; a code. A shared history. A shared suffering. Only it`s gone now, all of it. Gone forever.
 
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I enjoyed that one much more than the werewolf episode. I've seen a couple of the old stories with Sarah Jane in, and I think this story was really touching and handled reintroducing her excellently. The dynamic between Sarah Jane, Rose and the Doctor was lovely, and there was a lump in my throat at the end.

Chap from Buffy was great too.
 
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would be nice if they could get an actor involed with it


That`s how the first convention started.

Way back in the 60s with Star Trek.
lol there are already Doctor Who conventions, its just to call it a Doctor Who Break, suggests you get more than a themed room and a list of places where Doctor Who has filmed locally.


Oh I dunno.... a lifesize cardboard cutout of your own favourite Doctor installed in your room could be ........... "fantastic!"

BUt the hotel is only cashing in on a phenomenom that is already happening. Fans are visiting the city just to visit the locations used in the show. It`s got to be far better to receieve a guidebook SHOWING you where the locations are, rather than just knowing the names of the places, but not where they are.

Very enterprising. Now that this hotel is advertising such a thing, it won`t be long before some of the cheaper hotels follow suit, especially if it becomes popular.


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John Smith: So what am I then? Nothing. I`m just a story.

Doctor: You`re an echo. That`s all. A TimeLord is so much more. A sum of knowledge; a code. A shared history. A shared suffering. Only it`s gone now, all of it. Gone forever.
 
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oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

I SO wanna see Torchwood NOW!!



It`s going to be interesting to find out how come, when the Torchwood Institute was founded by Queen Victoria in the highlands of Scotland, how it migrated to several places in London as well.


Oh, by the way......... a very good way of hiding spoilers, Grandslam. Smile

Pity we can`t get the same match of colours in the Cult TV forum, because purple text shows up on the purple background of the forum.


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John Smith: So what am I then? Nothing. I`m just a story.

Doctor: You`re an echo. That`s all. A TimeLord is so much more. A sum of knowledge; a code. A shared history. A shared suffering. Only it`s gone now, all of it. Gone forever.
 
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2x04: The Girl In The Fireplace

Location: France, Earth
Date: The 18th Century
Enemies: Clockwork killers

Madame Du Pompadour finds the court at Versailles under attack from sinister clockwork killers. Her only hope of salvation lies with the man who has haunted her dreams since childhood – a mysterious stranger known only as the Doctor. Can a broken clock summon the Lord of Time?


Saturday 7pm on BBC1


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I cant wait to see Torchwood either, but then ive been waiting for it, since the BBC first announced it


I think we all have....... but the spoilers coming out now it`s being filmed have made me very impatient.

very

very

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Impatient.

I`m really torn between the desire in knowing everything I can as soon as I can, and wanting to watch the episodes unspoiled.


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John Smith: So what am I then? Nothing. I`m just a story.

Doctor: You`re an echo. That`s all. A TimeLord is so much more. A sum of knowledge; a code. A shared history. A shared suffering. Only it`s gone now, all of it. Gone forever.
 
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I notice that the sun has posted spoilers for the double episode starting next week.


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John Smith: So what am I then? Nothing. I`m just a story.

Doctor: You`re an echo. That`s all. A TimeLord is so much more. A sum of knowledge; a code. A shared history. A shared suffering. Only it`s gone now, all of it. Gone forever.
 
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I really liked it, excellent going back in time and stuff, masks were only slightly scary, yes, I admit it!!!
I don't think I like Mickey being there TBH...
Really enjoyed that one!
 
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it was a good episode, i really like the actress who played the woman-does anyone know her name?
 
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anyways tonights episode was really nice seeing hte relationship between theDoctor & Madame De Pompme devlop, to the point where she almost became a companion. (is taking such a historical figure out of her time, such a good idea ? )


Do you ask is it a good idea because Madame Pompedore is such a famous historical figure?

Because in the past the Doctor had a companion called Jamie who was a Scottish Highlander who was fightiing the English a few hundred years ago.

Also, another Doctor had a companion called Leela who came from an even more savage and backwards planet.

Both Jamie and Leela coped admirably with all the technologically advanced worlds the Doctor took them too.


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John Smith: So what am I then? Nothing. I`m just a story.

Doctor: You`re an echo. That`s all. A TimeLord is so much more. A sum of knowledge; a code. A shared history. A shared suffering. Only it`s gone now, all of it. Gone forever.
 
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it was a good episode, i really like the actress who played the woman-does anyone know her name?


Sophia Myles i think her and David Tennent are dating


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The Girl In The Fireplace

Written by Steven Moffat
Directed by Euros Lyn

Rienette/Madame Du Pompadour: “You’re scared of a broken clock?”
The Doctor: “A little bit yeah”.

After this episode, I’m certainly going to be a little more wary of the clocks I have at home thanks to the baddies in tonight’s instalment. This wasn’t a mind bender of an hour but a time bender.

Let’s say that Mickey’s first adventure as a fully fledged companion instead of a hindrance with The Doctor and Rose is one that he won’t be forgetting any time soon when the TARDIS lands onto a 51st Century ship that not only has human parts running its operation but it also acts as a gate throughout various time periods of a young girl named Rienette, who in turn is shown to be quite extraordinary in more ways than one.

Not only is Rienette the girl who grows up to become King Louis XIV’s mistress Madame Du Pompadour but on top of that, she’s also being pursued by a bunch of Clockwork killer robots who literally need her brain for their ship as well as having quite the connection to The Doctor too.

Played by David Tennant’s real life girlfriend, Sophia Myles is actually quite adept of playing quite the regal role that it’s almost hard to believe she’s the same actress who took part in that dire vampire/werewolf film Underworld three years ago. Her performance in this episode is great and personal factors aside, her and Tennant’s Doctor spark off each other remarkably well.

I was a little surprised that the young girl The Doctor had saved from a lone Clockwork Killer at the beginning of the episode would grow up to be an influential historical figure but Madame Du Pompadour’s reaction to seeing The Doctor after so many years by kissing him, had our Doctor acting really laddish. “I just snogged with King Louis’ mistress” is something worth bragging about compared to another famous other woman in Monarch history I suppose. Although rather than this remaining entirely juvenile, there was a level of seriousness between The Doctor and Rienette that was greatly addressed.

Not only did he save her both as a child and as an adult from the Clockwork Killers but there was also an intense attraction between them. He even kind of stalked her while she was chatting to Katherine in the garden at one point as well as discovering more about why she was wanted by the Clockwork Killers when she allowed him to read her mind. Little did he realise that it works both ways but more on that later though.

It seems the Clockwork Killers need her brain for the ship but can only use it when she hits the 37 mark of her life and it doesn’t take them long to eventually track her during that particular time period in her life. Rose really did appear genuine when she was expressing empathy to Rienette and explaining things in lieu of The Doctor but it wasn’t until Rienette actually managed to get onto the ship and overhear her future self call for The Doctor that she really took note of the situation and then our clockwork foes finally got her and King Louis.

As killers went, this Clockwork was certainly impressive, if not exactly the world’s best for conversation and although Madame Du Pompadour refused to give in and fear them, they managed to still be effective. Not only that, they also weren’t that easily defeated (pity a show like Charmed never took note of that concept, even with their most mundane of demons).

It seems that The Doctor freezing them with fire extinguishers (twice) and even throwing anti-oil (the latter during a scene where a snatched Rose and Mickey were nearly done for it and The Doctor pretended to be drunk – at least I think so) at them slows them down but like them being able to take commands from Madame Du Pompadour, it does nothing to stop them from the task at hand.

In fact, it isn’t until The Doctor gatecrashes Rienette nearly losing her head while on horseback and effectively telling the Clockwork killers that they weren’t going to succeed in using the infamous mistress’ brain that they actually stopped, surrendered, wound down and more or less just died as a result. And that’s ignoring the writer’s obvious puns about winding up and clocks throughout.

Still though we got a briefly nasty twist where The Doctor’s heroics also cost him the time vortexes between 18th Century France and the 51st Century space ship, resulting in them closing.

This momentarily left Rose with the prospects of no Doctor, a broken down police box and a complaining boyfriend, so it wasn’t hard to feel for her once again. Although The Doctor appeared sad, he didn’t seem overly broken hearted about keeping company with Madame Du Pompadour (or was that just David Tennant happy to be working with his girlfriend?), until the courtesan showed her the original fireplace he had first used to encounter her and managed to return to Rose and Mickey.

The episode then takes a more dour turn with The Doctor brooding over missing an opportunity to properly say goodbye to Rienette (though he is given a letter, where she once again draws a common link to him and her). She got to him by being able to read into his own pain and even Mickey had a great turn by getting Rose to lay off the questions. Though in fairness, Rose was once again excellent and sensitive to The Doctor and his feelings for Rienette.

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Exact Time Date: 1727 France. It came as no coincidence that the Clockwork Killers ship was called SS Madame Du Pompadour, although I wonder if the 51st Century part has anything to do with Captain Jack or Torchwood.

Rienette/Madame Du Pompadour: “What do monsters have nightmares about?”
The Doctor: “Me”.

The Doctor: “Goodness, how you’ve grown”
Rienette/Madame Du Pompadour: “And you do not appear to have aged a day”.

Rienette/Madame Du Pompadour’s talents included being an actress, courtesan, artist and a dancer. We didn’t actually see her which was nice because Tennant captured The Doctor’s anguish over her without that kind of scene.

Katherine (re King Louis XIV): “Every woman in Paris knows your ambitions”
Rienette/Madame Du Pompadour: “Every woman in Paris shares them”.

Was it me or did the horse following The Doctor seem a little similar to what we got with Kate in Lost this season? Except the horse here is white.

Mickey: “The King’s wife and the King’s mistress?”
The Doctor: “France, different planet”.

Rose: “You’re not keeping the horse”
The Doctor: “You keep Mickey”.

Little bits: The Doctor wanted to name the horse Arthur, a snide remark was made in regards to Camilla and The Doctor talked about bananas and dancing was positively mentioned again. Those last two things are vital tips that Steven Moffat was responsible for this episode.

Rienette/Madame Du Pompadour (to The Doctor): “Such a lonely little boy. Lonelier then and even lonelier now”.

Rose (re The Doctor): “Look what the cat dragged in”.

If you add this comment and her later one – “Lonely Angel”, plus the “Lonely God” statement from “New Earth”, then it seems the writers are trying to tell us something.

Rienette/Madame Du Pompadour (re Clockwork Killers): “They are five years away”
Rose: “For you, I haven’t got five minutes”.

It seems Rose’s 80’s hairstyle is back again as well as a bespectacled Doctor. As always, I approve.

The Doctor (re Fireplace portal): “Wish me luck”
Rienette/Madame Du Pompadour: “Oh”.

Rose: “Are you alright?”
The Doctor: “I’m always alright”.

Standout Music: This episode was loaded with great score music. Some truly exceptional score music might I add.



Better than I expected, “The Girl In The Fireplace” is another visually stunning, historically intriguing and character, although in fairness, it’s really David Tennant who dominates proceedings. Four episodes in and this second season has certainly been relentless in giving us top quality and imaginative episodes. I really can’t wait to see if what that creativity will have in our Cyberman two-parter, which incidentally enough is next week’s instalment. This season is certainly getting interesting.

Rating: 8 out of 10.


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how is it, that theDoctor could use the fireplace to go back to the TARDIS but not any of the other time portals?


because it was set that that particular time
 
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Ok, in the two place time was traveling at diffrent speeds
 
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it why after portal was closed-it doesn't stop time from moving from-ship is outside space which mean time not matter if portal is opening or closed-there will still be diffrent speed of time.

it's rather difficult to explain since i'm not an expert on this.
 
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will have to watch again (havei t recored) but how is it, that theDoctor could use the fireplace to go back to the TARDIS but not any of the other time portals?


The Doctor himself said that at the time he came through the mirror and destroyed all the other portals, the fireplace portal was not connected to the spaceship. In fact it wasn`t even "switched on" - remember the Doctor had to tap the fireplce (loose wire, I think he said) before he could activate the switch.


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John Smith: So what am I then? Nothing. I`m just a story.

Doctor: You`re an echo. That`s all. A TimeLord is so much more. A sum of knowledge; a code. A shared history. A shared suffering. Only it`s gone now, all of it. Gone forever.
 
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Rather like a power surge frying your desk top pc, scanner and printer, but your lap top was safe because it wasn`t plugged in at the time of the power surge.


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John Smith: So what am I then? Nothing. I`m just a story.

Doctor: You`re an echo. That`s all. A TimeLord is so much more. A sum of knowledge; a code. A shared history. A shared suffering. Only it`s gone now, all of it. Gone forever.
 
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