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I am stunned to learn that the "entertainer" Derren Brown is going to use a kitten in his next prog. It will involve a kitten a person and electricty.

WOW how stupid is that ? I am a real fan of Channel 4 but cannot believe that this would be an acceptable subject matter.

Can someone please tell me why channel 4 has approved this programme ?

Flaky
 
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Why not wait and see it first?!


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Flaky, I'm a big animal lover, too, but there's no need to worry on this score. Whatever the case, there's no question of any harm being done to a kitten on the show. It might look like the animal is in danger, but Derren Brown is a professional illusionist who makes his living inviting us to imagine the worst...

No TV exec is going to sanction cruelty to kittens, believe me!
 
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Flaky, I'm a big animal lover, too, but there's no need to worry on this score. Whatever the case, there's no question of any harm being done to a kitten on the show. It might look like the animal is in danger, but Derren Brown is a professional illusionist who makes his living inviting us to imagine the worst...

No TV exec is going to sanction cruelty to kittens, believe me!
 
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Whether it is cruel is not the point. Why even use such an idea in the name of entertainment?

It will give some idiots idea's that they may never have thought of...

Plus I do not wish to see if the kitten is in "pretend" pain or harm, what is the pleasure in that ?
 
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I imagine it is a rehash of Milgram's experiment. (wikipedia it).

I doubt the kitten is even involved.

But best advice is to
a) don't watch it
b) wait until you watch it before criticising

Nobody is forcing you....or are they..
 
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Whether it is cruel is not the point. Why even use such an idea in the name of entertainment?

It will give some idiots idea's that they may never have thought of...


Unfortunately, there will always be idiots who think harming animals is a 'fun' way to pass the time of day, and incidents like the one on Derren Brown's show isn't going to make a difference one way or the other.

I agree, there's no intrinsic value in seeing an animal in distress, whether that distress is real or simulated, but like other posters on this thread have suggested, it's best to see what Brown actually does on the show before making judgement.
 
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I was disgusted to see the trailer for this. Thankfully we have welfare laws in this country for when animals are involved in television shows and films, but what we don't have is a nation of civilised and sober people who are well versed in the difference between psychological experiments and pranking around.

It's not a case of whether or not those who don't agree with it watch it, but more a case of this kind of thing planting ideas in impressionable and / or idiotic people's minds.

I think Channel 4 should pull this part of the programme.
 
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It's not a case of whether or not those who don't agree with it watch it, but more a case of this kind of thing planting ideas in impressionable and / or idiotic people's minds.


The impressionable and the idiotic don't need this kind of programme to put such ideas in their heads - they're going to torture and kill animals regardless of what they see on TV. It'll be interesting to watch the show and see what all the fuss is about.
 
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more dissapointing realy;
Hes been great entertainment up until now.
(i serioulsy doubt anyone/thing would ever come even close to being 'hurt' in the litation world we sadly live in now)

But Re some other points;
This series does seem to be a re-hash of lots of previously seen (on derren brown) and well known/demostrated illusuions elsewhere;
what happened to the original, and intuative illusionist we all loved to watch?
 
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