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Originally posted by C14:

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Originally posted by Pauljimmyn:
Possibly not, but he was guilty of what he and others accuse Christians of. Presenting his belief as fact. There was certainly time to expand his views beyond the confusing 'gentle slope' analogy. If he wanted to present a balanced programme, then perhaps it should have focused less on trying to discredit the church minister and more backing up his own beliefs.
Books are all very well, but he chose to make a

I certainly agree that Dawkins made apoor effort at backing up his belief that religions are the root of all evil, but I'm nor sure that is what you are refering to above. The "gentle slope" analogy refered to evolution. Evolution most certainly is fact and not simply Dawkins' belief and so he was required to spend very little time explaining it.

I agree that evolution and natrual selection are fact. But as I said to to the Extent that Mr Dawkins advocates.

>As for the allegations of what happened
>aftwerwards. Again just hersay

Allegations? Hersay? Weren't you watching the programme, Paulj? It was captured on camera!

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Originally posted by C14:
Most (all?) religions have creation stories. Humanity's discoveries regarding evolution, along with geology, cosmology and astronomy, tend to directly contradict those stories. In addition evolution is fundamental to our modern understanding of biology. If evolution were suddenly found not to be fact after all, the whole field of modern biology would collapse. We face a potential flu pandemic because of evolution. We have "super bugs" and insecticide-resistant pests killing crops because of evolution.
Evolution is incredibly important, whilst at the same time treading on people's fundamental religous beliefs. That is why it is such a hot topic of discussion.

But surely it would take a decent study of the texts as well? Do Christians really believe that the world was created in 6 days or whatever the disputed area is? I thought that numbers weren't really relevant when it came to studying the Bible but were just supposed to express the grandure or minute-ness.

But there is apparently evidence in the Qur'an that supports evolution, i.e. it says "we created you in stages", which is supposed to suggest the evolution theory. There are other examples apparently, I will try and do some research. The more advanced material is what one would be looking for, at GCSE or A level you'll probably be told that Islam doesn't agree with evolution, because at a very basic level that probably denies the existence of God.

its repeated with the 1st and 2nd part
Roy P and anybody whose interested,

Sunday 22 January
2:50am - 3:50am 1st part
3:50am - 4:50am 2nd part

I enjoyed the programme mostly. I think it was bold of him to make it. I particularly liked his point about children being victims of miseducation. And his point about not saying things like "conservative child" or "liberal child" was a good one.

I think he restrained himself a little with the argueing but that was good. He is often too dogmatic when in debate and he needs to make himself a little less partial as he is introducing the program.

On the whole a great piece of documentary. I hope he is making more of these.

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>As for the allegations of what happened
>aftwerwards. Again just hersay

Allegations? Hersay? Weren't you watching the programme, Paulj? It was captured on camera!

I must admit I was chatting with a friend as I was watching. So I shall bow to you on that. But I thought the preacher made a good point. Science will prove to be right on some things and wrong on others.

I have to congratulate Richard Dawkins on making this.
In part two, some of the things being done in the name of God were indefensible. Hell houses are hideous concepts.

Personally, I beileve you can be liberal and still believe that the whole Bible is inspired by God. Some Christians, like scientists, refine their beliefs in the light of new revelations.

These programmes have shown that religion and science can be equally close minded.

Thanks for the info, Spad.

I lost the 2nd part. Do you know if it will be repeated?
Cheers

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Originally posted by Roy P:
With respect, freemycatfish, there is and has been plenty of what you're asking for -- religious programmes, on the TV and radio. Not so long ago it was difficult to find a programme not dedicated to religion on a Sunday.

For once, a TV company has been brave enough to question 'Religion', can your 'faith' not accept a little criticism?

Dear oh dear! Such aggression and needless too. I have no problem with honest questions. I do object to naked hate and dishonest questions. Criticism for the sake of it is simply stupidity on display.

What I would like to know iS, why does the subject of a living God so frighten and anger you?