Originally posted by peabug: Just a quick question.
Can I just ask? Do you feel that if Kate had shown that she was sorry for what she had done you would then believe that she need NOT hand herself in and go to prison for her crime?
I don't really think jail is a very helpful place for anyone, and deliberately avoided mentioning it in my post above. I think if she felt genuine remorse then she would hand herself in and accept her sentence (regardless of whether that is a good thing or not). If she doesn't feel genuine remorse, she is a danger to society, and therefore should be kept out of its way. Jail is one way of accomplishing this, the island is another - many of the island "inmates" are similarly guilty/dangerous. If the island could be seen as a prison or holding facility, you could understand why the others want to remove the "good people".
Originally posted by chelle_b: I think Kate does feel sorry for what she did otherwise she wouldn't have had the whole seeing-black-horses-and-hearing-dead-dad-in-sawyer episode which was obviously brought round by her guilt.
Like most criminals though, Kate just didn't want to give up her freedom and so stayed on the run.
I think she regrets what she did because it wrecked her life. I think in the wake of others' reactions to her crime, she wishes she hadn't done it. I think she fears the judgement of others (or even God?), and this preys upon her mind constantly. However, I have seen little evidence of genuine remorse.
I appreciate and agree with you end comment alluding to Kate's 'cowardice' [my word not yours..not putting words in your mouth ] and lack of courage..however, i firmly dispute the suggestion Kate's running away from her punishment parallels with AL's situation.
Gosh. You don't say?
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Because Kate cannot see that she has done wrong..she runs and runs whereas AL knows and admits to the fact that some of her actions were wrong..she beats herself up emotionally and mentally and even offered Sayid the chance to take her life..i couldnt imagine Kate being so remorseful that she would believe herself to be deserving of suffering equal to those that she has delivered to others in her time.
Though I would argue that Ana Lucia hadn't demonstrated a great deal of remorse up until the end of 'Collision'
For me she displayed an adequate level of remorse..furthermore we must bear in mind that we have only seen a fraction of AL compared to how much weve seen Kate..therefore any remorse that AL has shown it would be fair to multiply it byh at least 3. Even without multiplying it AL has shown more remorse than Kate anyway..
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- I don't think she would've shot Shannon had she really considered her vigilante shoot-without-thinking
Nothing could've prevented her from not shooting Shannon..think of the climate of fear they were in..the whipsers..the others..Cindy missing..then some person comes sprinting towards them..it was instinctive...any one of us would've done the same thing..
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bit of torture on the side lifestyle incorrect - I do think her handing the gun to Sayid demonstrated knowledge of her current moral condition, which is more than Kate's ever done...openly at least. There is something weirdly absent from her moral thinking - her incapacity to understand that not everyone considers murder an appropriate solution,
Yes, that is what im talking about Murgatroyd..her moralistic view is so skewed and distorted that she cannot understand that murder..is wrong. She cannot fathom why anyone should want to lock her up for it..and she cannot fathom why she should give herself in, why her running is slapping all those who loved her right in the face.
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and I still genuinely feel that the strangely distanced explanation she gave for her actions is either bad writing (really not a satisfying or logical explanation when abuse was patently going on) or a case of her hiding her true reasons or pushing it into her subconsious. I'm a bit worried that the former option is the case - that the writers expect us to find that explanation clever rather than weird, unbelievable and baffling.
I wouldnt put it down to bad writing..the whole crux of Kate's character is that she doesnt have the same moral views as the majority of society..she is 'born to run' dont forget [this is her theme], she ultimately thinks for number 1 and if anyone on the island didnt have a soul..then it's not Eko..it's Kate.
] and lack of courage..however, i firmly dispute the suggestion Kate's running away from her punishment parallels with AL's situation. 
