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Originally posted by kitiara:
duh!!!
I am blonde so blame it on that eh!!!!

Aww we all forget at times

May be there is a way of opening the blast doors once the risk/explosion has passed?

So the people inside would be able to get out. Although one would think there would not be much of the hatch left to come out to.

Anyway surely they would need to be activated if there was a blast? OR would they activate themselves?

I am in doubt as to whether Desmond knew about the blast doors because surely he would have hidden in there when the losties blew off the hatch door?

It seems unlikely that they would protect against sickness or chemical warfare (or something airborne) as Kate managed to reach that room through the ventilation shaft. Or did she? Cant remember if she was actually above the computer room (maybe some one could check at some point??? ) if she was above the computer room then that would be a way out if the blast doors did shut on someone.

It does seem strange that Locke hasnt investigated further, maybe he will soon?

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In my humble opinion the blast doors must be of significance and means there may be some dire consequence of not pressing the buttons in time. If this was a social experiment as has been suggested then I would have thought this would be a little too much attention to detail in order to trick those to believe initiation film.

How do we know these are blast doors? All Michael can see is the bottom part, some wiggly metal structures. To be a proper door, it needs to be a couple of meters high, but all that would be hidden in concrete. To fool the people the experiment is on, it only needs to be skin deep.

How do you know it isn't real?

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Originally posted by DAVIE P:
This is interesting. I'm looking at it at two angles. One being that the doors come down if an "incident" is going to happen. This could explain why the ladder is all broken,

Hmm..so maybe an incident took place [as Candle said] that insinerated the ladder..and the rest of the hatch [the living quarters] were refurbished? [unlikey i know]

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as it is not protected by blast doors. However, Dharma could have just installed them to make it feel more real to the person pushing the button. Like, they are put there to make the button pusher believe that something must happen as there are blast doors. If it is an experiment, Dharma would obviously want to make it feel as real as possible for the button pusher.

Nah..[personally] i dont think they're just for show. I did consider this possibility but i dont think thats the case because Locke didnt even notice them..nor did Jack or Sayid [presumably]..therefore wouldnt they [the creators] have made Locke notice them if it was fake. Because the fact that he didnt notice them suggests that they are very discreet..if they [Dharma] wanted make give it a sense of false-realism then why make them so discreet? I also dont think they [the creators] would've made Locke not notice them sooner if they were only for show. But i suppose you never know.

I believe they are real too. The electro-magetism is real, check Jack's key, and very very strong. Check the concrete too. That was real. I think there is definately going to be more on this as the story unfolds. You can bet Locke will investigate them once he gets his finger off that button, I'm sure.

There's a rule in theatre and film that you don't put something in unless you're going to use it (the name eludes me at the moment) - think James Bond and his gadgets. I doubt that the Lost creators would point something like this out to us and then just abandon it.

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It seems unlikely that they would protect against sickness or chemical warfare (or something airborne) as Kate managed to reach that room through the ventilation shaft.

I agree. Generally, blast doors (of shelters) protect whatever's inside primarily from a blast, rather than from fallout and such. The real question (assuming the door is real, which I'm pretty sure it is) is what is the blast door intended to protect, people or the computer, and how could such a lockdown be activated (missing the numbers?).
I think it might be significant that the blast door would be able to withstand an attack from the Dark Territory dynamite.

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Originally posted by *sweet pea*:

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Originally posted by KoR-evo:
Did Desmond say that the numbers werent entered in time once?..cant remember that.

I don't think Desmond ever said he'd missed a button. Sorry I'm jumbling what's in my head with what is fact. I just got the feeling Des had insinuated that at some point the button hadn't been pushed (but maybe not during his time) and we know that there wasan 'incident' once. Not knowing what the incident was though I think it's plausible that is was related to the button.

Ah i get you, thats quite possible but thinking about it i seem to remember Dr. Candle saying something about the 'protocol' [aka button pushing] being implemented after the "incident".. ..could be wrong but i think he did say something like that.

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Originally posted by *sweet pea*:
Another thought -
If the doors were there to give protection in the event that not entering the numbers would have dire consequences...whether it's to do with radioactivity or sickness or whatever, you'd need to assume the protection was for the computer, not the person/people. Because if the door is activated by the button not being pushed then that maybe suggests that no one is in the computer room when the doors come down.

Not necessarily because in 'Collision' or 'WKD' [can't remember which] we see Locke scrambling to enter the numbers before the timer hit 00:00..and he was in the computer room. So if the numbers not being entered in time are linked to the doors being activated [which im not 100% convinced about yet as it 'could' also be controlled remotely by Dharma] then Locke would've been trapped inside.

So i tend to think that although the doors could be only for the protection of the computer i would sway to it being for both the protection of the computer and the button pusher..because in the event of an incident maybe the button pusher would still be needed/communicated to [like Mike was]?

But i suppose it can be looked at both ways..

But are the Dharma Initiative that concerned about the safety of Desmond ( now Locke and co ) ? They havn't even sent him his replacements and they've just left him down there , I don't think they care much for him . But the blast doors could well be for both the people and the computer . Afterall , they do need people if that button is going to carry on getting pushed don't they . Hmm , I've confused myself on this one !

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Originally posted by Lost Lewis:
They havn't even sent him his replacements and they've just left him down there

Thats a point..i can't remember but are his replacements due to arrive..or has date of their supposed arrival already elapsed?

Then again i suppose in a freaky kinda way Desmond's replacements have already arrived..all 44 of them [or is it 49 now, lol]

I agree that the blast doors have a lot of significance.

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Thats a point..i can't remember but are his replacements due to arrive..or has date of their supposed arrival already elapsed?

Then again i suppose in a freaky kinda way Desmond's replacements have already arrived..all 44 of them [or is it 49 now, lol]

Lol, but I think his replacements were already meant to have arrived. This leads me to believe that Dharma have had to drop the experiment or go underground or something so they are no longer able to do anything about it. Or, this particular 'experiment' is no longer in their hands. Because why would they just leave the people without replacements, unless it is part of the experiment and they were never going to replace them.

I didn't really think much about the blast doors when Mike mentioned them. But after reading all the comments, they could be to lock in someone who misuses the computer, as it was Mike who found them and him who got contacted on the computer. What if they are there to keep Mike a prisoner as someone obviously knew who he was(I don't believe that it's Walt but even if it is, it's odd that he hasn't tried before when Locke was on, as he and Locke have a bigger connection!)
As I said this has come from reading your comments so feel free to correct me!!!

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Originally posted by Lost_in_space_12:
I agree that the blast doors have a lot of significance.

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Thats a point..i can't remember but are his replacements due to arrive..or has date of their supposed arrival already elapsed?

Then again i suppose in a freaky kinda way Desmond's replacements have already arrived..all 44 of them [or is it 49 now, lol]

Lol, but I think his replacements were already meant to have arrived.

that was a joke btw

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This leads me to believe that Dharma have had to drop the experiment or go underground or something so they are no longer able to do anything about it. Or, this particular 'experiment' is no longer in their hands. Because why would they just leave the people without replacements, unless it is part of the experiment and they were never going to replace them.

Yeah, I have a feeling that Dharma's operation has somehow been hijakced..maybe by someone or a group within Dharma themselves..maybe seperatives who felt that Dharma's ethos or outlook was too 'moderate' and wanted to take thing to another level..hence maybe Dharma, the de groots, Dr. Candle and the likes have been killed or had to go underground [as you say] and the 'operation' is now being run by another faction or group who are more radical in their approach perhaps..maybe they themsleves have also fallen foul to some kind of incident which they didnt expect. It's so fancinating really..there are just so many permutations and possibilities