I heard people on here refer the blast doors that Mike noticed this but i dont recall much discussion on the matter?..I think it's pretty significant that Mike noticed that the computer area/room of the hatch has "blast doors"

Now, to me this would suggest that in case of an 'explosion' [or attack?] the doors can/would automatically be activiated and shut, therefore preventing the computer from getting damaged or sabotaged/destroyed.

Now this is all very interesting [imo] and as well as the possibility that they [Dharma] are/were worried about an explosion or someone sabotaging the computer..does the presence of the blast doors authenticiate the purpose of the button/computer?

What I mean is - if there are blast doors which will seemingly be activated to 'protect' the computer..does this therefore mean that the computer is indeed vital and that something will happen if the button is not pressed or the computer gets damaged? I mean, does this help prove that pressing the button is geneuine and that it needs to be pressed? Otherwise why would Dharma implement blast doors in the first place?

And is it worrying that Locke didnt really give much attention to them once Mike told him?

Any thoughts/comments/opinions?

Just to further clarify..do the blast doors indicate that maybe pushing the button is not simply an experiment? [forgot to add that bit in my above post]

We dont know for a fact that the blast doors only come down if the button is not pushed???

I agree with what you say that the button pushing is obviously vital. But the doors are obviously there to protect the button pushers as well as the computer what I cant remember is if the blast door seal the computer away from the living quarters part of the hatch??

Michael only found one set of doors, I would think there is at least one more set, as the hatch is somewhat round in shape?

I think the doors will be significant in the event that the button wasn't pressed in time. I forget exactly where they were situated in relation to say, the food store. My point being if someone was at the computer when the doors came down would they then be trapped and isolated from the rest of the hatch. So do you think they are activated immediately if the button isn't pressed? But then, Desmond suggested that the numbers once weren't entered yet the doors are up?

I was also wondering if Michael will have completely messed up the timer for the numbers being entered in using the computer against the rules. And then what will happen??

But the most significant thing for me in your post is Locke's response to the doors. Where has his appetite for discovery gone?!! I know he's a man of faith but surely he's not just so convinced that this island holds his destiny that he is willing to become completely subservient and not even show interest, let alone question something so potentially important!

Sorry for rambling - should probably have gathered my thoughts before posting

But the doors would imply that it is just that area that wuld explode(or wateva it will do) wheras i presumed it would be a bit bigger den dat i mean theres not much in dat section apart from the computer! unless it is too keep the person INSIDE the doors safe from an outside explosion! and live on with the rest of the hatch/island/world dead

In my humble opinion the blast doors must be of significance and means there may be some dire consequence of not pressing the buttons in time. If this was a social experiment as has been suggested then I would have thought this would be a little too much attention to detail in order to trick those to believe initiation film.

What sort of blast do the doors protect us more the question. Raditaion, explosives or is it to protect against an electric impulse bomb (as used in Ocean's 11.)

Any theories?

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Originally posted by Mushi:
We dont know for a fact that the blast doors only come down if the button is not pushed???

No, sorry..i didnt mean that..in fact i didnt consider that. I was thinking more on the lines that if something exploaded on the island..remember Sayid's reference to Chernobyl and the nuclear explosion there? Well, i was thinking that the blast doors protect the computer from an explosion or protect it from someone trying to enter the hatch to destroy it [the computer]..therefore [if this was the case] then surely this means that the button/computer has a genuine purpose and not just that of 'testing' Locke/Des/Jack etc to see if they will push it.

But now that you mention them possibly coming down if the button is not pressed, i also think that is a possibility..as maybe not pressing the button leads to an explosion [nuclear?]..or something.

Just a guess..but [at the moment] i would go with my original theory/suggestion that the blast doors are there to shield/protect the computer from external sabotage/explosions..

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I agree with what you say that the button pushing is obviously vital. But the doors are obviously there to protect the button pushers as well as the computer what I cant remember is if the blast door seal the computer away from the living quarters part of the hatch??

Oh no dounbt..I meantioned protecting the button but i obviously mean the people/person inside that area of the hatch too.

Yeah, i think the computer room is seperate from the other living quarters.

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Michael only found one set of doors, I would think there is at least one more set, as the hatch is somewhat round in shape?

But there's on one entrance to the computer room..there only needs to be one set of blast doors to protect/shield that room..

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Originally posted by KoR-evo:

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Originally posted by Mushi:
We dont know for a fact that the blast doors only come down if the button is not pushed???

No, sorry..i didnt mean that..in fact i didnt consider that. I was thinking more on the lines that if something exploaded on the island..remember Sayid's reference to Chernobyl and the nuclear explosion there? Well, i was thinking that the blast doors protect the computer from an explosion or protect it from someone trying to enter the hatch to destroy it [the computer]..therefore [if this was the case] then surely this means that the button/computer has a genuine purpose and not just that of 'testing' Locke/Des/Jack etc to see if they will push it.

But now that you mention them possibly coming down if the button is not pressed, i also think that is a possibility..as maybe not pressing the button leads to an explosion [nuclear?]..or something.

Just a guess..but [at the moment] i would go with my original theory/suggestion that the blast doors are there to shield/protect the computer from external sabotage/explosions..

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I agree with what you say that the button pushing is obviously vital. But the doors are obviously there to protect the button pushers as well as the computer what I cant remember is if the blast door seal the computer away from the living quarters part of the hatch??

Oh no dounbt..I meantioned protecting the button but i obviously mean the people/person inside that area of the hatch too.

Yeah, i think the computer room is seperate from the other living quarters.

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Michael only found one set of doors, I would think there is at least one more set, as the hatch is somewhat round in shape?

But there's on one entrance to the computer room..there only needs to be one set of blast doors to protect/shield that room..

Sorry..what i also originally meant was that the activation of the blast doors wasnt necessarily linked to the button 'not' being pressed..but to an exploasion or sickness or something outside of the hatch..i was thinking that maybe Dharma activated them remotely or something.. ..but it's true, the blast doors could also be activated when the button is not pressed in time.

I forgot there is only one enterence to the computer area! To me there is a good possibility of locking the Button Pusher away from the computer, and then there would be real trouble?

Perhaps there is some sort of warning before they come down?

The blast doors are very interesting and everything KoR-evo has said is pretty much what went through my mind after id seen it.
If they block off just the computer area it would suggest that the things in there are the most important things to keep safe.However if the button pushers are in there at the time and they have no food supply,sleeping area etc they wouldnt last very long anyway,depending on how long the doors would be shut for.Though like Mushi suggested theres probably more than one set of doors.

It could be another 'Quarantine' style device too though,is it to keep certain parts of the hatch and its inhabitants safe from an outside force,like other people trying to get in,sickness or explosion through lack of button pushing or are they to keep the island safe from something happening inside the hatch.

Lockes lack of interest in them was a little worrying because they are probably going to need them at some point.

More questions and possibilities!

Sorry thats thinking out loud and might not make much sense!

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Originally posted by *sweet pea*:
I think the doors will be significant in the event that the button wasn't pressed in time. I forget exactly where they were situated in relation to say, the food store.

I think the food store is just down the corridor[?] to the computer room/area..or is that the weapon room? Hmm, have to rewatch MOSMOF and adrift to see, as they give some good shots of the logistics.

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My point being if someone was at the computer when the doors came down would they then be trapped and isolated from the rest of the hatch.

Yes, I would think so. Maybe only for a pre-set amount of time though..maybe they will come back up once a pre-set amount of time has elapsed..maybe after 24 hours or something? I wonder though..they [Dharma] should've made the food store 'attached' [if you know what i mean?] to the computer room because say the doors stay activated for 3 days..poor Locke/Des/Hurley or whoever will get hungry! Unless there's a secret panel/door of somekind that links to other areas of the hatch or even to the outside? That woud make sense..but then again it wouldnt because Desmond didnt mention anything like that.

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So do you think they are activated immediately if the button isn't pressed? But then, Desmond suggested that the numbers once weren't entered yet the doors are up?

When i posted this thought, i didnt consider the doors being closed upon the numbers not being entered..i was thinking that they were activiated remotely by Dharma or something or in the event of an explosion..but i must admit i do like the idea of the doors being sealed if the button is not pressed in time.

Did Desmond say that the numbers werent entered in time once?..cant remember that. If so that would maybe suggest that if not entering the numbers in time does bring the doors down then maybe they only stay down for a certain amount of time..before going back up..but this wouldnt make sense because surely they come down for a reason..for a 'protective' reason?..if the numbers werent entered in time and the doors then come down then something should've happened if indeed he didnt enter the numbers in time once. Unless..of course..something did happen?..Yeah..maybe something..like an "incident" did take place on the island already... hmm..

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I was also wondering if Michael will have completely messed up the timer for the numbers being entered in using the computer against the rules. And then what will happen??

Yeah good point. I know this may not be important but the timer was at 51:00 when he started his 'MSN session'..wonder if this holds any significance also?

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But the most significant thing for me in your post is Locke's response to the doors. Where has his appetite for discovery gone?!! I know he's a man of faith but surely he's not just so convinced that this island holds his destiny that he is willing to become completely subservient and not even show interest, let alone question something so potentially important!

Exactly..Locke though he is a manof faith is also imo a man of science and a man of science seeks to know more..to gain enlightenment..and Locke seemed far to dismissive in his responce. I know it was important for the plot that Locke mentioend the video so that they could set it up for Eko to tell Locke about the story and show him the film etc, but i still feel that the old Locke would show far more interest in those doors than he did!

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Originally posted by KoR-evo:
Did Desmond say that the numbers werent entered in time once?..cant remember that. If so that would maybe suggest that if not entering the numbers in time does bring the doors down then maybe they only stay down for a certain amount of time..before going back up..but this wouldnt make sense because surely they come down for a reason..for a 'protective' reason?..if the numbers werent entered in time and the doors then come down then something should've happened if indeed he didnt enter the numbers in time once. Unless..of course..something did happen?..Yeah..maybe something..like an "incident" did take place on the island already... hmm..

Just remembered..Dr Candle did say in the video that an incident had already taken place didnt he? ..Well, i'll change my above comment to 'what if another incident took place as a result of Desmond not entering the numbers in time' [though i still cant remember him saying that he did forget to push the button in time?]

This is interesting. I'm looking at it at two angles. One being that the doors come down if an "incident" is going to happen. This could explain why the ladder is all broken, as it is not protected by blast doors. However, Dharma could have just installed them to make it feel more real to the person pushing the button. Like, they are put there to make the button pusher believe that something must happen as there are blast doors. If it is an experiment, Dharma would obviously want to make it feel as real as possible for the button pusher.

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Originally posted by Luvin'_sawyer_charlie:
But the doors would imply that it is just that area that wuld explode(or wateva it will do) wheras i presumed it would be a bit bigger den dat i mean theres not much in dat section apart from the computer! unless it is too keep the person INSIDE the doors safe from an outside explosion! and live on with the rest of the hatch/island/world dead

Well surely as you touched upon later in your post, the doors are to protect the computer and the button pusher/s..not the rest of the hatch/island..[although that is still theoretically 'possible' i suppose].

I thought the doors would come down to protect the button pusher from an explosion on the island. So I'm thinking its more to protect human life than computer equipment. However, thinking this through further, the food and water would all but be destroyed if the explosion was enough to warrant blast doors so why save people if they would die of hunger anyway. Therefore this leads me on to think that its the computer equipment that needs protecting more that anything else, unless there is something else in that room which we are not yet aware of.

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Originally posted by KoR-evo:
Did Desmond say that the numbers werent entered in time once?..cant remember that.

I don't think Desmond ever said he'd missed a button. Sorry I'm jumbling what's in my head with what is fact. I just got the feeling Des had insinuated that at some point the button hadn't been pushed (but maybe not during his time) and we know that there wasan 'incident' once. Not knowing what the incident was though I think it's plausible that is was related to the button.

Sorry Roco, I'm not being very coherent. Trying to do too many things at once

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Originally posted by Auntie Meg:
In my humble opinion the blast doors must be of significance and means there may be some dire consequence of not pressing the buttons in time. If this was a social experiment as has been suggested then I would have thought this would be a little too much attention to detail in order to trick those to believe initiation film.

Yes, I agree A.Meg, I think that the blast doors are either a consequence of the button not being pushed in time or [perhaps more likely? imo] some kind of explosion or form of attempted sabotage of the computer..or both.

I now think that this makes the whole thing less of an experiment and makes the whole button pushing more real..there must surely be a 'real' consequnce of the button not being pushed or being destroyed etc.

In saying that though, I do feel that the original premise of aspects of the island and the hatch etc were designed as an experiment..i just feel that since the incident [whatever that may be] things have changed and become more 'real'.

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What sort of blast do the doors protect us more the question. Raditaion, explosives or is it to protect against an electric impulse bomb (as used in Ocean's 11.)

Yes, very good point..I was thinking that..I tend to think that they either protect from some from of blast [maybe nuclear?..i only say nuclear because of Sayids Chernobyl reference..surely this was a clue?]..or perhaps the doors [also?] protect from radiation? is the sickness 'radioaction'?

Hmm..

Another thought -
If the doors were there to give protection in the event that not entering the numbers would have dire consequences...whether it's to do with radioactivity or sickness or whatever, you'd need to assume the protection was for the computer, not the person/people. Because if the door is activated by the button not being pushed then that maybe suggests that no one is in the computer room when the doors come down.

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Originally posted by Mushi:
I forgot there is only one enterence to the computer area! To me there is a good possibility of locking the Button Pusher away from the computer, and then there would be real trouble?

Thas an alternative way of looking at it and i actually think thats a very plausible possibility! Although this, would perhaps negate the possibility of the button being for a genuinely importantly purpose and add fuel to the idea that it is all an experiment. I do like your thinking here and give you props for it..in just think [and hope!] that the doors are intended to protect the computer and the button pusher..hence making the button genuine and 'real' in it's consequence.

But good thinking and very possible what you said there..

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Perhaps there is some sort of warning before they come down?

Yeah..i mean there was a different 'alarm' sound when the word 'hello' came up on the screen wasnt there.. hmm..also, i know that warning sound was different and slightly less audiable[sp] but surely Locke would've heared it? Hmm, well he probably didnt so i suppose thats not important..but still..

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Originally posted by KoR-evo:

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Originally posted by Mushi:
I forgot there is only one enterence to the computer area! To me there is a good possibility of locking the Button Pusher away from the computer, and then there would be real trouble?

Thas an alternative way of looking at it and i actually think thats a very plausible possibility! Although this, would 'perhaps' negate the possibility of the button being for a genuinely important purpose and add fuel to the idea that it is all an experiment. I do like your thinking here and give you props for it..in just think [and hope!] that the doors are intended to protect the computer and the button pusher..hence making the button genuine and 'real' in it's consequence.

But good thinking and very possible what you said there..

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Perhaps there is some sort of warning before they come down?

Yeah..i mean there was a different 'alarm' sound when the word 'hello' came up on the screen wasnt there.. hmm..also, i know that warning sound was different and slightly less audiable[sp] but surely Locke would've heared it? Hmm, well he probably didnt so i suppose thats not important..but still..

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Originally posted by Soul On Fire:
The blast doors are very interesting and everything KoR-evo has said is pretty much what went through my mind after id seen it.
If they block off just the computer area it would suggest that the things in there are the most important things to keep safe.However if the button pushers are in there at the time and they have no food supply,sleeping area etc they wouldnt last very long anyway,depending on how long the doors would be shut for.Though like Mushi suggested theres probably more than one set of doors.

Yeah..there must be a secret compartment or exit of somekind..i mean Dharma[?] have gone to the meticulous efforts of implementing a blast door so surely they wouldnt overlook the fact that the button pusher/s would need food once trapped in there?

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It could be another 'Quarantine' style device too though,is it to keep certain parts of the hatch and its inhabitants safe from an outside force,like other people trying to get in,sickness or explosion through lack of button pushing or are they to keep the island safe from something happening inside the hatch.

Hmm, Yeah i would lean towards the doors being toi protect the button pusher/computer from events/incidents outside the hatch [though maybe triggered by lack of button pushing - possible]. As well an explosion or sabotage [from the Others maybe?]..i would also consider the doors being a protective force against sickness or radiation of somekind? [maybe?]

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Lockes lack of interest in them was a little worrying because they are probably going to need them at some point.

Yeah, like i said above, he used to be far more pr