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Originally posted by Toolz:
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Originally posted by solargain:
Why?
Because there is no proof.
Well that is incorrect isn't it. A large consensus of scientists agree that we are causing a problem. The number is also growing.
What reference can you give to say that there is no proof?.
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Originally posted by Toolz:
The planet will get warmer if we didnt exist at all.
With in certain parameters the climate would change, that variation is included in the science that shows we are causing a problem.
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Originally posted by Toolz:
Thats how the planet works and making predictions that the planet will get warmer because of the carbon we produce is not proof of anything.
Well, by you saying the earth works in a certain way isn't proof of anything, you need to present your evidence.
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Originally posted by Toolz:
If I say the carbon we produce makes the sun rise tomorrow then it dont make it anymore true when the sun rises.
Your statement doesn't fit any experimental or observable event, so it would be rejected by scientific peer review.
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Originally posted by Toolz:
The planet uses carbon to survive its as important as water.
Carbon is just one aspect of the planet and it exists in different places and in different forms. The simplicity of your statement would be fine if the planet had no life on it that depended on the current eco-system balance.
You are also ignoring the timeline/history and the balance that existed in the past as opposed to the balance now.
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Originally posted by Toolz:
We are created from it.
With the normal energy levels on earth, carbon can not be created or destroyed. It is an element, it can only be created and destroyed in the extremes of the universe, such as stars etc.
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Originally posted by Toolz:
We breath it out.
We do breathe it out, but it first it has to be taken in via food and drink. By burning fossil fuels which hold stored solar energy from millions of years ago when the eco system was different, we are adding new carbon to the current eco-system. This would be fine if we planted huge forests that would have existed millions of years ago and knocked down our cities. But we aren't doing that, so this carbon form the past is sitting in our eco-system with nothing to do other than warming the climate.
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Originally posted by Toolz:
Plants breath it in.
To be a little more accurate plants will use it when the sun is out, basically using solar energy to grow. The carbon is then stored in their structure, until the plant dies, is eaten or is burnt. Then the carbon is returned to the atmosphere again.
This is fine since it is just a cycle and doesn't increase the amount of carbon in the eco-system.
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Originally posted by Toolz:
Why do we need to fight against global warming anyway? The nature of our planet is to change we cant force it to stop and obey us so we can live more comfortable lives without harsh weather i think that is not natural.
We can change the impact we have on the planet, external events are not our business, we have responsibility for the damage we do and that is what we need to focus on.
