There they are trying to survive and make things better and she wants to make an installation. I know art helps to make the environment a better place and they are in a pretty cruddy place, but she needs to get her priorities sorted out. They've no idea just what they're going to lose or need next but she's hanging on to her stash in the name of 'Art'. I wonder what she'd do if there was ever a nuclear war? Also, she's supposed to be in touch with 'her inner self' and 'the earth' - that is until she has to start using a composting bog.
she is a total selfish moo! If she really cared about the snake and the eco then she would have buried it without anything else so it could bebiodegrade and give back something to the earth. Plus she buried it in something which was not biodegradeable! Grrrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhhh!
I, too, question the need for the "art installation". By the gods, you're living on a dump woman.
In our town, we have been inundated with new installations around the shopping centre. What use wasting your maoney on little more than the drunk's new climbing frames.
What we need our money spent on is things for the local youth, ASB, and litter picking.
Maybe she needs to get more in touch with the community rather than her rather constipated inner self.
My immediate thought is that by not participating in the 'idea' fully and making art instead, she was still in the mind set of her normal life and was just using the dump as another inspiring location for her normal occupation.
It sort of reminded me of the Golgafrinchans in Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy.
If she's that passionae about it just do it. I can't see much formation so far. Satellite dish and a few bits of metal. There's a few wastes of space on the show.
Loved the snake burial. A true 'spiritual' moment. (It was a carpet snake wasn't it?) They're sorta deadly I think.
I was hoping that she was reacting to the fact they had only thre weeks and she wanted some artistic creation completed in that time. Instead she is coming over as insensitive to the urgencies of the survival aspect. Putting her own needs before others.
Well i think the work on the art sculpture was not put accross that well on monday night, Firstly, me and christine worked on it (admittedly christine more) in our own FREE time, free meaning when everyone one else were sitting around playing cards, and relaxing! (which is fine- we had nothing to do) Secondly, the materials were not worth anything, the scrap man saw them and the value was less than a £1. If they were worth something me and christine would have given the others our luxury money. Thirdly, there were a lot of material on that dump we could have picked out for people if they thought it was useful, we hadnt taken all the useful material there, it was just we had found it and others wanted the easy option of taking it from us. Fourthly, we were building a community and part of a community is its art. We were giving people something nice to look at as we looked at rubbish all the time, we were doing it for the group, which most of the group even liked in the end, and even helped out to erect the structure, all pleased with what christine had done, and wishing they had left a mark like christine had done.
Dont forget it is a 4 hour program, they cant show everything they would like to, but they will try and make it more entertaining for you guys to watch, dont get misguided with a snippet of a storey, because there is bound to be at least 2 hours worth on the structure on an editing floor somewhere! Enjoy the conclusion tonight, Lawrence
Thank you Lawrence. It is a pity it's showing just one hour per day. I don't think it is possible to convey anything near the reality of how grim it must be there. Something aesthetic was needed to show the variety of potential in that rubbish and I hope you and Christine did manage it . Don't tell, yet.
Is it just me or did they jump from week 1 to week 3? I couldn't see the point of the art installation and would have spent time trying to make a methane powered generator or something else that is useful. Maybe I've watched too many of those programs where they problem solve by scavenging rubbish to make useful items/machinery.
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I thought it was a bit unfair of the commentator to condemn the sculpture as "rubbish" before we'd even seen it. It wasn't my kind of thing, but much better than "pile of bricks" and a lot of other stuff in the tate modern.
Originally posted by Lawrence Dumped: Well i think the work on the art sculpture was not put accross that well on monday night, Firstly, me and christine worked on it (admittedly christine more) in our own FREE time, free meaning when everyone one else were sitting around playing cards, and relaxing! (which is fine- we had nothing to do) Secondly, the materials were not worth anything, the scrap man saw them and the value was less than a £1. If they were worth something me and christine would have given the others our luxury money. Thirdly, there were a lot of material on that dump we could have picked out for people if they thought it was useful, we hadnt taken all the useful material there, it was just we had found it and others wanted the easy option of taking it from us. Fourthly, we were building a community and part of a community is its art. We were giving people something nice to look at as we looked at rubbish all the time, we were doing it for the group, which most of the group even liked in the end, and even helped out to erect the structure, all pleased with what christine had done, and wishing they had left a mark like christine had done.
Dont forget it is a 4 hour program, they cant show everything they would like to, but they will try and make it more entertaining for you guys to watch, dont get misguided with a snippet of a storey, because there is bound to be at least 2 hours worth on the structure on an editing floor somewhere! Enjoy the conclusion tonight, Lawrence
Hello Lawrence,
Thanks for taking the time to visit this forum and post here. I feel that you have enriched this place and I hope you coome back often.
Regarding the "Dont forget it is a 4 hour program, they cant show everything they would like to, but they will try and make it more entertaining for you guys to watch, dont get misguided with a snippet of a storey, because there is bound to be at least 2 hours worth on the structure on an editing floor somewhere!" aspect, this is why a forum such as this needs to hear from people in the know such as yourself.
Over a year ago I followed Rock School on Channel 4. That also was a 4 hour show which was made over about 5 weeks and had about 120 hours footage to work with. The final 4 hours was heavily edited for entertainment value, and some invloved are adamant that the perspective was changed and context lost.
Is it just me or did they jump from week 1 to week 3? I'm afraid it would have seemed like that as episode 3 concentrated more on the arguments that the group were having. I think i was a little disappointed that the episode didnt show much about what we were actually doing that week. We had made a cycle powered generator which was powering energy efficient light bulbs, when people could be bothered to peddle! This was the machine we used to charge our phone for the call home! We also built a garden from plants which a garden centre had thrown out, we improved the shower area which was mentioned breifly in an argument about boots- that was a shame because a lot of effort went into making it look aesthetically pleasing and it was like an actual shower room when finnished and we used many materials from the dump. Same for the wash area. I was also disappointed with the lack of coverage from the building of the shelter because we had built it in a way that each wall had used a different material like car bonnets, abandoned electronic hardware, old windows, but instead you only really saw the wood pannelled wall! I think it is best to read the day-to-day bit of the website as here it gives more detail to what we actually did! If you have any questions just post them and i shall try and get back to them, Lawrence
I've just been to the dumped website, and I can't find anything about the building projects.
I find really annoying that Channel 4 thinks that their entire audience will have a more of a Big Brother mindset than a Scrapheap Challenge mindset and will only be interested in the arguments and conflicts, and not in the creative and constructive elements.
I'm not sure whether I missed something at the beginning of the last episode, but half way through, Darren turned up, and then disappeared again, without any explanation - shame about the editing!!!
Don't tell, yet.
