For those familiar with the PNAC (project for the new American century) are you concerned that Iran is now the next step in the plan?
With Iraq invaded (whether the war is deemed successful or not) there is an American presence there and now Iran appears to be next on the list, have the PNAC neo-cons succeeded? Or are they about to?
Is Iran's spiritual leader right? Would the PNAC find another way to get into Iran, so long as it was 'secured'?
I think that the Iranian President has already declared war on Israel by threatening to wipe it out. As to how this pans out I think we shall have to wait and see. I believe that with Iran its a question of damage limitaiton rather than there being any obvious or particularly good options.
I think you will find that even the most hard of neo-cons like John bolton are not talking about attacking Iran by means of a ground invasion because this is simply not an option. Short term perhaps an airstrike.
The American military is already carrying out 'Black Ops' in Iran, rounding up possible anti-government allies within Iran. Most natable is the alliance that they are forging with MEK and Balochis. MEK were responsible for the deaths of both western workers and Iranian citizens in Iran throughout the early 70's, but all these trivialities seem to have been forgotten now that they may turn out to be a useful ally.
You're absolutely spot on about Iran being the next target on the PNAC agenda. I've believed this for some time and have noticed the turning of the spotlight.
Incidentally - I think it was summer 2003? - I remember Jack Straw making a 'slip' on the Today programme. The panel were talking about Iraq and the general argument was about invasion and war and he referred to Iran although what he actually meant to say was Iraq. It's hardly a slip you make if you don't have Iran also being discussed elsewhere and the slip was too telling for me to forget it.
I would say that PNAC is going almost exactly to plan. Alright they would have liked to ride the crest of 'The New Pearl Harbor' wave for a bit longer, but they seem to be establishing their long-term bases in Iraq, Afghanistan, Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, Oman and Uzbekistan. The military industrial complex is churning out the weapons, keeping up the war corporatism while the politicians seem to be doing the best they can to undermine The UN security council.
if iran, syria and others dont wake up and build treaties to defend each other soon they will end up like iraq and afganistan occupied by foriegn troops and their wealth stolen by greedy western leaders. what is happening in the middle east is nothing short of criminal, but the worst offenders is the western nations. iraq will never be free. like ireland british troops be there for good
Originally posted by nodoubt: if iran, syria and others dont wake up and build treaties to defend each other soon they will end up like iraq and afganistan occupied by foriegn troops
Is that like the treaties that most arab countries had to preemptively attack Israel (on more than one occasion)? What good did it do them? - They got well and truly smacked.
The Arabs have no-one to blame but themselves for most of their problems. Don't mistake me I am no liker of Israeli actions in the ME but the Arabs are a joke in their crying foul when they are on the receiving end by their own misguided loyalties and greed.
Originally posted by tenplay: For those familiar with the PNAC (project for the new American century) are you concerned that Iran is now the next step in the plan?
With Iraq invaded (whether the war is deemed successful or not) there is an American presence there and now Iran appears to be next on the list, have the PNAC neo-cons succeeded? Or are they about to?
Is Iran's spiritual leader right? Would the PNAC find another way to get into Iran, so long as it was 'secured'?
Not only can we say that Iran is next with total certainty (it is just a matter of how and when) but we can also expect Syria to be next, after Iran - see Zbigniew Brzezinski's The Grand Chessboard.
The philosophy underpinning PNAC is intellectually discredited. However, the neocons within the current Administration only have a limited window to strike against Iran . . the 2008 US Presidential Elections will signal a reassessment of The War On Terror.
Yet to establish the extent to which a Democrat President will vary from the NEOCON-lead course the United States has been following, to date.
However, US policy reversals in Iraq and Afghanistan mean that the country will be in bad shape for any 'incoming' administration.
I'd like to, but I don't expect to see any change in policy even after the BushII administration,as the grand chessboard game will play out regardless,unless more people wake up to the morass of lies,deception and mass murder madness in the name of democracy.
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