Remember: Only fools are slaves to time and space.

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Originally posted by Black Horse:
Remember: Only fools are slaves to time and space.

I think that just about wraps it up, don't you?

quote:

Originally posted by Black Horse:

quote:

Originally posted by Black Horse:
Remember: Only fools are slaves to time and space.

I think that just about wraps it up, don't you?

Yes mate my money was on this one as you know
THE END!
or the begining of the end or the end of the beginning....... OK I will stop now

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Originally posted by torrycoo:

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Originally posted by Black Horse:

quote:

Originally posted by Black Horse:
Remember: Only fools are slaves to time and space.

I think that just about wraps it up, don't you?

Yes mate my money was on this one as you know
THE END!
or the begining of the end or the end of the beginning....... OK I will stop now

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Originally posted by torrycoo:

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Originally posted by Black Horse:
It is a good thought Torry. The rain also always seemed to be around when Walt was able to project his image and send messages to the Losties. The rain also seems to get rid of the monster too wouldn't you say?

In the pilot episode when we hear the monster in the jungle for the first time had to laugh at Charlies response to the situation
I would like to think that the rain from the island and the BSM are tring to cancel each other out in some way. But the BSM does seem to stalk like a pack animal. It could be that tear in the fabric of space and time and the BSM is actualy leaking through into the losties island!

On looking around other web forums there was mention of the rain again and thought I would bring it to your attention again that the Island seems to rain when it is protecting it's self. Just look back to the times it rains and in the last case Julliet says it is going to rain, just as they are to incounter the BSM again. So is the rain a bi product of the BSM ?? They seem to be linked in some way anyone have any ideas?

torry, are you saying that the rain is BSM pee?

I suppose it is

Euwwwww!

lol

Flipping this on its head, does the BSM NEED water in the form of rain in order to appear? Has there ever been a time when it has appeared without the rain? I dont remember it raining when it smashed Eko's head on the tree trunk?

I remember someone said that the rain could be an early warning system to tell people that the BSM is coming. They could be connected somehow.

Just bringing this to the front again, seeing as we now have 'new' evidence to support the theory!

its been a Long time horsey?

It most certainly has!

But I am back now with avengence and plenty of new ninja weapons....

Have you been mourning for Chelsea?
Where have you been mate?

I have been 'lost' in the space time continuum for alot of deep thought...

Question, if there were NO survivors of flight 815 as is stated then surely the island is a 'twin' or 'paradox' island, ONE of many realities, each unique and each having a different parrallel dependent on actions of others or one self (aka Desmond). Therfore each man determins his own destiny in his (or hers) unique universe...

...I am getting at something BIG here - the ULTIMATE theory, little ole horsey has been going into overdrive and I think I have the answer....

I will post it on tuesday after the bank holiday. Need a little more time to prepare. Just to give you a wee clue before then; it is based on THE John locke.

bump

Come on then, Horsey, don't keep us in suspense!!
Is your theory to do with Locke's tabula rasa theory? (Cheated and had a quick Wikipedia!). The second episode was called 'Tabula Rasa', wasn't it? Hmmm...
Wiki also says that Locke influenced Russeau, so are you including the island's Russeau in your theory as well? I've been linking Locke and Russeau more on the island now. Locke's off on his own, like her, sat in between the two groups, as a bit of a dangerous loon. Hmmmm...

found this on dark terrritory...

They found the plane. There were no survivors. They were all dead.

One possible explanation is that this really did happen, but in an alternative reality from the one we have been seeing on the island. This would mean that Naomi (parachute girl) has somehow crossed over from one reality to another.

We shouldn't be too surprised by such a plot development, because we have apparently seen an alternative reality before in Flashes Before Your Eyes. The producers have stated that what we saw in Desmond's flashback was real, but I think those events were a little different from the first time that Desmond experienced them. Thus when he met Charlie on the island, he didn't remember him as that busker who gave him déjà vu.

If this is true, then there are two dominant opposing forces on Lost: fate and free will. Free will splits the strands of time whenever someone makes a momentous decision. Fate ties the strands back together and drives them toward an inexorable conclusion.

We have seen how so many of the passengers were nearly not on flight 815, but for some seemingly small or sudden decision.

I have noticed before that Desmond and Jin are very nearly the same person: a man who went to his girlfriend's obscenely rich father to ask for her hand in marriage and was offered a job.
That was where their lives diverged. Jin said yes, but Desmond said no.

These choices are particularly important in Desmond's story. In his flashbacks we have seen two (connected) people, Ms Hawking and the abbot, trying to influence his choices and direct him toward his fate on the island. They are the enforcers of fate.

On the island, Desmond's flashes give him glimpses of possible futures. He uses this foreknowledge to guide his choices. In Catch 22, he plays the same game as Ms Hawking and the abbot. He tries to drive the choices toward the fate he sees of being reunited with Penny.

Great brain juice, what do you think...

...all fits in with all the twin/time/dimension/philosophy theories

I like your thinking, Horsey, particularly as you've rooted Desmond in the middle of it all.
On the Jin and Des front, one said yes, the other no, but they ended up in the same place. I've said all along that Des was 'sent' to the island, but I'd never put fate as a cause. I'd always got some outside force pushing them all to the island, but never got the idea that it was something, rather than someone.
Eeh, it's like 'Sliding Doors' all over again, but without the chick flick feel.

John Locke - philosopher
David Hume - philosopher
Rousseau - philosopher

'don't tell me what i can and can't do'

...ringing any alarm bells?