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All this waiting and I still missed it due to see due to having to go to a gig Big Grin

onyway the gig was brilliant The drop kick murphys one of the best gigs i have seen for a long time.

will catch up with lost tonight. Wink


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Right the episode was great but questions after it!"

1.Hurley says to jack that "he wants us to go back" Who is this he, is it Jacob, Ben or locke?
2.In Hurleys Flashforward he counts to five to make Charlie disappear. He also does this when he comnes across Jacobs hut.Both times they disappear. Why?
3.Yes we saw Christian in Jacobs hut and then we saw an eye come to the window while he was still sitting in the chair. who is this person? Locke seems too obvious even though he appeared before Hurley and remember the hut had disappeared.

Also after the hut disappeared Hurley fell to the ground. There has to be a signifigance in this as Locke fell into the pit after being shot, Naomi fell from the sky, the plane fell. Everytime something significant deems to happen there is a connection to falling. Very Similiar to Alice in wonderland with the falling theme and a nod to the lost time anagram in mittelos science.

Charlies "i'm dead but i'm still here" is interesting as it links to the Everett theory i discusse dbefore about parrallel universes. Charlie died yes but he lives on. Is this the case with all of them.
Also the visitor hurley has with his "they're still alive arent they" seems to highlight a cover up of some sort.Do they need to get back to help those who stayed behind before these people do.Hence the differnece in jacks attitude in the seperate flashforwards.

Nicely set up for the season. I'll watch it again tonight to look for any little clues.


Was whaaaaaay dissapointed - long adverts and not enough for a 1st episode!

Think they should have put the first 2 episode together!


1. Maybe Locke
2. Counting to 5 may be like a mother says 5 to kiddies (not reading anything strange into the number)
3 Yes Christian in the hut - but why was the other in the rocking chair?
4 Yes I thought there was something about the way Hurley fell to the ground it was like Locke and was quite intense.

When he saw Hurley - Jack looked so scared!

Charley used to see his dead brother a lot.

Strange man - who saw Hurley - think we will see more of him!

Perhaps "they" want to find Ben after all he was meant to be the only remaining survivor of the Dharma - as he joined the "others" as a young boy after he has killed his father.

Oceanic 6, Jack, Kate, Hurley - Who are the the other 3 - They need someone on the Island that Kate is desparate to go back for like Sawyer!

The adverts on Sky do my head in! Would love to be patient and wait until the DVD comes out and watch it all in one go - but know I am not going to be able to resist it - who can Big Grin

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Damn I just did a huge post and it didn't work!!


We are stuck in a bloody snow globe. Eek

my big 5 are: Sayid, Sawyer, Hurley, Desmond and Jin... THEY MUST NOT DIE!!

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Hi all..new to the forum and a huge fan of lost.

What a great episode last night.Gave us more questions than answers as lost always does.

I was hopeful when Hurley saw Charlie that he was not dead after all only to have my hopes dashed.

Regarding the coffin...Jack was upset when he read the newspaper about who had died so it has to be someone he liked and respected surely.?


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I shall try again.

1. When the lawyer / not guy asks hurley 'Are they still alive?' I assumed he was inviting Hurley to consider the people he had abandoned on the island.

2. Charlie was there - because the fellow inpatient saw him too - my guess both visitors are like a black smoke monster manifestation sent by the isalnd / someone on the island to target hurley as the one to fetch the 'oceanic 6 ' or some of them back!

3. This seems to corraborate with hurley's last speech to Jack when he states, 'he wants us to go back. It will stop at nothing...'


We are stuck in a bloody snow globe. Eek

my big 5 are: Sayid, Sawyer, Hurley, Desmond and Jin... THEY MUST NOT DIE!!

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The figure in Jacob's hut did look like Christian, but many of us thought it was Christian last year too - and other sites have spent ages trying to prove it was or it wasn't; it was Locke etc etc...it was Jacob! But who Jacob is is another matter. As for the eye - no idea...it looked frightened, but I assume whoever it was was conversing with Jacob...and Ben tells us he is the only one who can do that. Locke is an obvious guess, but his eye was wrong for Locke's I think.


We are stuck in a bloody snow globe. Eek

my big 5 are: Sayid, Sawyer, Hurley, Desmond and Jin... THEY MUST NOT DIE!!

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If the figure in the coffin was one of the original 6 survivors (we asume so as Jack wants to talk to Kate about it)...then it must either be someone from a different faction than our Losties - or someone who betrays them...after all Kate is very scathing about why she would have been expected to attend - and no-one else goes.

Last year I put forward the idea it was Hurley...as it would be the complete opposite of island-hurley; to have no friends and no-one to pay their respects, but people keep pointing out the small coffin - so it suggests not..

. Hurley does suggest they made a wrond 'decision' (was it just th decision to leave - or have these six done something worse to garner their own rescue?? Jack wants to know if Hurley will TELL. Tell what??


We are stuck in a bloody snow globe. Eek

my big 5 are: Sayid, Sawyer, Hurley, Desmond and Jin... THEY MUST NOT DIE!!

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OK, watched it last night and.......... Clapping Clapping Clapping

what a great start to the season. stunning performance by Jorge Garcia, he truly emotionally affected me.

couple of questions:

1) why did sawyer chose to go with team Locke?
2) why did desmond stay with team Jack? after all, he did say to sayid, juliet etc that they MUST not contact that boat. Is he curious about these people? maybe he wants to know how naomi knew bout him and penny in the first place.
3) could hurley be referring to the island when he says 'he wants us to come back', or the black smoke?
4) That was definitely christian shepard in that chair so my questions are (A..... WTF! B) so christian shepard isnt jacob? as we see other person at the window C) is hurley special too? he could actually see jacob, where as locke only heard him.

Great eppy!!!


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Finally (sorry about all the small chunks but the server wouldn't accept my long posts!!)

Charlie says 'they need you'; i guess he means the people who got left behind...we know that these flashforwards are not the end of the story of Lost - just a chapter; so I assume at least some of the oceanic 6 will return to the island - what will they find there??

Roll on next week. I am trying very hard this year to avoid spoilers so the episodes are fresh and exciting to me like the first series was - I loved this one, I want more.


We are stuck in a bloody snow globe. Eek

my big 5 are: Sayid, Sawyer, Hurley, Desmond and Jin... THEY MUST NOT DIE!!

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Hi Klunky...

Re Sawyer staying with Locke; maybe it was just the anti Jack thing again. Especially as Kate seems to have gravitated back towards Sir Doc. though just a minute or two before he was craning his neck to look for her amongst the group...he obviously still cares.

Actually Sawyer was surprising in a couple of ways last night, offering to talk to Hurley about Charlie etc.


We are stuck in a bloody snow globe. Eek

my big 5 are: Sayid, Sawyer, Hurley, Desmond and Jin... THEY MUST NOT DIE!!

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Charley used to see his dead brother a lot.


Charlie's brother isn't dead as far as we know. Eko used to see his brother yemi alot. who coincidently remind you of that fellow who met hurley in the hospital (compare facial expressions when yemi is judging eko before his death.


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hey SB. i think sawyer may have faith in locke as he helped him in the past, could be like a father figure.........

one more question.............what did hurley mean when he said to jack ' youve come to check if im gonna tell'? did they do something sinister or unforgivable to make it off the island?


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Hey guys haven't been on here for a while....
I think Sawyer is one of the oceanic 6 because at the end of season 3 in jacks FF when he meets kate at the airport he says something like "how is he?"
might be on about sawyer
 
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To me it seems that they must have cut some deal to get off as lets face it, the boat hasnt come for them. Maybe they were double crossed. I say we will find out later in some more flashforwards that jack wants to go back as he is racked with guilt over what he finds out has happened to his fellow losties. Hurley being mentally unstable could be volatile to letting the beans slip but looking at him last night i doubt it. I said before he would become a major character. Despite all the pills he stills seems pretty lucid when he comes to discussing the island or not as is the case.He still has visions. The weird one being in the police station when he sees the window break like it did with charlie. Could there be a psychic ability with Hurley which could be shown with the seeing of Jacob if thats whose eye it was. I cant be locke as it was a right eye and as we all know locke has a scar there. oh the mysteries Eek


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I think Sawyer joined Locke purely coz I think he would have appeared subservient to Jack otherwsise. I dont think he gets off of the island meself.

I love how everyone sees so many different things in each episode of Lost, its so interesting how different peoples brains work.

I think Charlie is dead - if there is such a thing as ghosts or the suchlike, then there is a theory that they cannot be seen by those who use their concious mind - its the logic part of your brain. maybe the likes of those in the mental institute can all see "ghosts" or whatever you want to call them due to their mental state???? (not that I am saying people who see ghosts are mental!!)

I reckon that we almost definitely saw Christian Shepard in the chair, but I dont knopw if he is jacob. I think the eye was Jacob. Dunno why, I just do, dont as for reasons!!!


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but what about claire? desmond did have the premonition of her getting nto a chopper, but maybe not home, hmmmm.......................


Yeah Des said about the helicopter but you never know it mat crash or some eh?


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Hey guys haven't been on here for a while....
I think Sawyer is one of the oceanic 6 because at the end of season 3 in jacks FF when he meets kate at the airport he says something like "how is he?"
might be on about sawyer


Too obvious I think.


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Wow! I loved last nights episode! It was so much better than the start of the 3rd series, that was just a let down... Hey who do you guys think was in the tank, has anyone brought that up yet? That was so creepy! I think it's Charlie because of the black hoodie he was wearing which Charlie use to wear all the time in the 1st series. Also, my friend pointed out that one of his shoes was missing and Charlie lost one of his shoes when swimming down to The Looking Glass. Any thoughts?

Also that man from "Oceanic", was really creepy! I want to know who he is!

I thin what Charlie meant about going back is that they left some people behind on the island. Hurley said "I'm sorry I went with Locke, I think he wants us to go back". So are they still alive? What happened?

Oh and Hurley can see Jacob! Link to Ben? I think so...

Just my thoughts, thanks xxx


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Just to let you guys know, there are sneak peek videos on the abc website, under primetime: lost for the second episode.

Looks good.

I need answers, I don't think I can live like this for another like four years...Lost makes me crazy lol.
 
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What TANK?! I never saw a Tank Confused

I thought the Person who wanted them to go back to the Island was Jacob. Jacob is always giving Lists and stuff, why not send them back to the Island... Red Face Just realized.... OMG.... The List...The Oceanic 6...It must be the List...

Jack wasn't initially on the List but he was added, Kate was Originally on the List, Sawyer was on it too, and so was Hurley. So far Jack, Kate & Hurley are all Oceanic 6 Survivors....

What Other Lists has Jacob made? and Why?

Na...I doubt it.

What I wanted to say was that Hurley can see Jacob meaning he has a more Powerful Connection to Jacob than Locke. I'm getting this Tone of...Jacob is the Embodiment of the Island or something, I thought Hurley said: "It wants us to come back"...like the Island wants us to come back. But if he said "He" then it must be Jacob. Locke & Ben are the other possible reasons, but I'm somehow more inclined to believe it's Jacob atm, unless there's proof or a theory that is convincing enough to sway me otherwise.

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