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okay its been a while since i posted as i had to catch up on episodes and have therefore been away from this forum for about a year. hello to everyone.

My theory is this;
Alvar Hanso after making his millions sent out a search team to track down the black rock, his ancestor’s slave trading ship laden with gold. The ship had been caught in a mini-tsunmi which dragged it into the middle of the island simultaneously destroying the four-toed statue. The search team came back with news of the island and it peculiar features such as its previous inhabitants and electro magnetic anomaly that makes it near impossible to reach. In the meantime the Hanso foundation had set up an initiative for “a better tomorrow” primarily focussed on the numbers which are a method or equation of predicting disaster on a fractal or chaos level, similar to weather prediction systems. A team of psychologists created the spider solution. These are a system of 9 nodes each performing tasks based on the numbers and monitoring of each other in a kind of feedback loop which accommodates the experimenters into the experiment. This team known as the dharma initiative were sent to the island to research several different fields such as genetics, psychology, and spirituality etc. all of this with the goal of limiting the disaster that the numbers predicted. As they continue to investigate the island, (which was largely chosen for its electro-magnetic cloak) they become aware of the presence of the hostiles, descendants of the original black-rock crew, and anyone else that accidentally came across the island and couldn’t leave. One of the disaster prevention projects the dharma initiative was involved in was the artificial manufacture of a godform. There were two relatively unsuccessful attempts at this, the results being the monster and Jacob. The monster and Jacob are both able to implant visions and dreams into whoever they choose. The monster and Jacob work together to bring 815 to the island, knowing as they do that if the disaster thee numbers predict is to be averted then key members of the crew will play a roll. Through causation adjustment the lives of crew members are manipulated through visions and direct requests (through ben and in locke’s sweat lodge) towards a position that will save the world.

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Howdy KidKunjer Smile welcome back!

A very interesting read. I like your theory on the monster.
This theory very much incorporates everything we learnt on the last Lost Experience online game, did you play?

Are you playing the new game too? Ninja


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...and have you read the Loop theory?

http://community.channel4.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/429009...580034559#3580034559


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yes, yes, and yes.
loved the 1st game and have started the new one. seems like its bigger budget this time...
i read the loop theory, but i'm not to keen on it, it just seems a little too like the purgatory thing, and leaves a lot to be explained...
however maybe there is not one unifying theory; X-files never really managed to wrap everything up into one unifying explanation, but then twin peaks did... although it was not understood by many...
who says theres only one thing going on? maybe the loop thing could be true as well as others...
but for me the thing that seems most significant is adam and eve and the whole light/dark thing i reckon if you crack that well, we'll see.
seems like every mystery is answered with another even more baffling question; may we never get to the end.


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but for me the thing that seems most significant is adam and eve and the whole light/dark thing i reckon if you crack that well, we'll see.
seems like every mystery is answered with another even more baffling question; may we never get to the end.



defo with you there on the adam/eve thing Cool
I think we have a thread about them somewhere I'll go search it out...Ninja

been a while since anyone posted a new theory well done! Thumbs Up

Roll on S4...hopefully that will bring ALOT more theories to light!


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That is rather all-encompassing Kid-kunjer.....Bravo Clapping


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check out olaf jansen and the smoky god...
i might very well just have cracked it. it makes perfect sense.


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Hello, just having a wee browse around here.

Noticed a small hole in your idea about the Hostiles being descended from the slave survivors..

Well around that time before our world became more civilised.. slaves were generally black!


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Hello, just having a wee browse around here.

Noticed a small hole in your idea about the Hostiles being descended from the slave survivors..

Well around that time before our world became more civilised.. slaves were generally black!


They could be decendents of the crew rather than the slaves.


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There was also white slavery, they came from Africa to Ireland (mainly) and took slaves (saw a tv programe on it once!)

It was obviously not as prevalent as black slavery, but it did happen.


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So I have a new theory. I must warn you in places it sounds like the drunk ramblings of Daniel Faraday, but I promise it all makes some kind of sense.
It’s almost definitely not correct as it is way too complicated and too complicated to explain clearly (or clearly enough for most viewers to understand) it is interesting however in that it explains nearly everything…

It’s similar to the old theory in that it has to do with experimenters being incorporated into their own experiments.
It is a common idea that it is impossible to separate the experimenter from the results of the experiment. EEE (experimenter expectancy effect) My current idea is that the real Henry Gale was sent by Whidmore on a reconnaissance mission for an offshoot of his company Minnesota Metallurgy & Mining Co. The objective of this mission was to source a certain mineral which heightens the effect of EEE. This mineral has an effect similar to a magnetic or radioactive metal as it radiates out probability effectors. Staying too long in its field causes some detrimental effects. This mineral is effectively the “magic box” Ben describes:
“Let me put it so you'll understand. Picture a box. You know something about boxes, don't you John? What if I told you that, somewhere on this island, there is a very large box and whatever you imagined, whatever you wanted to be in it when you opened that box, there it would be? What would you say about that, John?” -Benjamin Linus, the man from Tallahassee
(It is worth noting that EEE is a non-temporally-bound effect and can radiate backwards through time. This allows cause/effect to be reversed through time and so things they do on the island can effect what they do before they have arrived.)
Whidmore then became interested in the island which is a rich seam of this mineral, purchasing both the Black Rock’s journal and the now defunct Dharma initiative company. Which had previously done experiments on the island utilising the islands singular effects on experimentation. Namely that what you expect to find or look for, you find.
Almost all events on the island can be explained by either the warring factions between groups attempting to control the mineral and the effects of the mineral itself.
The monster is the answer to what bumps in the night. When the original islands inhabitants heard strange noises (the kind you naturally find in forests at night) they looked for a monster that could make the noises and eerie (but completely normal) feelings of being watched.
The polar bears were on one hand brought to the island by the dharma initiative as experimental guineapigs. The content of the experiments themselves were unimportant. What was important was the experimenting with experimentation itself. On the other hand the polar bears are also a property of the effects of EEE on Walt’s perception.
The healing properties of the island can be explained as what characters were seeking within their own stories. Locke was looking for a place he belonged and was respected and that is what he found. Rose and Bernard were actively seeking a cure when they ended up on the island.
The Others are the descendants of the black rock crew as my previous theory, who were able to use the island’s properties to their advantage, exploiting their position through the company Mittelos Laboratories.
The hatch, related button experiment and observations were experiments set up to analyse how the mineral functioned.
The numbers are a coincidence. They are just a strange attractor like “the law of 5s” from the Discordian religion. The numbers don’t mean anything. Hurley found them on the island as that is what he was seeking an answer to.
The runway that the others made sawyer and Kate work on was a runway for them to transport items between the island and Mittelos HQ Portland. They have more things than just one submarine.
The infertility on the island is caused by constant exposure to the radioactive qualities of the mineral.
Time travel within the characters own consciousness is possible as time is a function of consciousness. It is facilitated by the field of the EEE mineral which at points of high stress (when several contradicting EEEs clash) can knock you back along your own timeline.
The frozen donkey wheel was discovered as the looked for some way to save the island once it was discovered. They sought it and so it was found.
Certain people have the innate ability to produce the EEE effect and this is strengthened by the Mineral. These are the people who have a stronger pull than others if the effect is in contradiction. These people are Walt, Locke, Desmond, Hurley, and maybe more.
All visions that occur on the island are due to people seeking the people they find, or seeking to excuse behaviour through the visions.


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So to put it really simply ...its all in their head? Ninja


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So to put it really simply ...its all in their head? Ninja


no! lol. it sort of was in there head but now its real, but only cause it was in thier head first (unless by first you mean time as a linear model in which case... ) ... v.difficult to put it simply Smile


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So to put it really simply ...its all in their head? Ninja


no! lol. it sort of was in there head but now its real, but only cause it was in thier head first (unless by first you mean time as a linear model in which case... ) ... v.difficult to put it simply Smile


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IT does make sense to a certain extent if you look at the actual philosophers Lockes work on this includng his notes on mental boxes and others Nod


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