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anyone been on the website "retrievers of truth"? and yeah, im a bit beahind on the whole "VINCENT IS EVIL" thing can anyone catch me up?
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The idea that vincent is evil come from the fact that when ever some one was going to die they would be seen with vincent just prior to their death! The website is funny  ,,,.,= = NINJA CAT Word On The Street I am in love ♡ Zoanthropy = the delusion that one is an animal The Lost Forum - saved 29 Aug 08
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just researching Rabbits as in white rabbits here is some reading if you want.  • Life, healing, clear-sightedness, gentleness / Luck; trust; love; friendship; fear; evasion / Rabbit symbolism concerns the Moon (Intuition). • The rabbit represents humility, because he is quiet and soft and not self-asserting. -- Black Elk Chinese tradition says that people born under the sign of the Rabbit possess intelligence, wisdom, and understanding. After turbulent Tiger years, Rabbit years are times of diplomacy and gentle persuasion. Emphasis is placed on human rights and helping the underprivileged. Activities dealing with healing and medicine will flourish. An excellent judge of character, they are difficult to deceive. 1 • Older than Christianity, the symbolism of the hare is thus a celebration of life's continuation with rebirth, as in each spring, and the rabbit expresses hope that life will be renewed, and better than before. • The nocturnal rabbit, signifying the moon who dies every morning and is resurrected every evening, also represents the rebirth of nature in spring. Both the moon and the rabbit were believed to die in order to be reborn. Therefore the hare is a symbol of immortality. In Egypt, Osiris, god of the dead, was sacrificed to the Nile each year in the form of a hare to guarantee the annual flooding Egyptian agriculture depended upon. Although the hare is not a symbol for Christ some analogy might be made to Christ who was sacrificed in the form of a man for the feeding of God's people. To Buddhists the hare is a symbol of self-sacrifice. Legend says this creature threw itself into a fire in order to feed Buddha when he was starving. As a reward, it was given a new home in the moon. Because of its fertility (one doe can produce 42 young a year), the rabbit or hare is an emblem of fertility, abundance, good fortune, sexuality, lasciviousness, lust, procreation, puberty, renewal, spring, rampant growth, excess, and love gods and goddesses such as Venus, Aphrodite, and Cupid. Pliny the Elder even prescribed its meat as a cure for female sterility. The white hare sometimes found at Mary's feet represents her triumph over lust or the flesh. Because it signifies abundance, the rabbit is sometimes used in western countries as a harvest or fall symbol. It also stands for madness and the month of March. The rabbit's alertness and speed made it a Christian symbol of vigilance and the need to flee from sin and temptation. Like the lion, the hare was believed to be so vigilant that it slept with its eyes open. Its flesh was contaminated with wakefulness and could cause insomnia in its eater. Its speed was a reminder of the swift passage of life. ...The rabbit's burrow is a symbol of Christ's tomb.....The rabbit's trembling makes it a symbol of cowardice and timidity. However, Judeo-Christian writings recommend a holy trembling before the Lord. [1 Chr 16:30; Ps 96:9, 99:1, 114:7; Is 19:1, 66:2; Jer 5:22, 33:9] The writer of Philippians warns the Christian to "work out your own salvation with fear and trembling." [Phil 2:12] In Medieval times, cowardice was personified with drawings of an armed man running from a hare. On the other hand, in Africa and the Americas, the hare was believed to be a trickster using its superior intellect as its defense. Some tribes considered him a hero and even the earth's creator. Aztecs believed 400 rabbits guarded their fields. 2 - If we consider the phases of the moon in its waxing (masculine) and waning (feminine), and accept the notion that the moon at full intensity is the Destroyer of Darkness or, as Hillard says, "sign of new life and the messenger of immortality," we can appreciate the honored position to which the rabbit has ascended..... A number of explanations account for this hare/moon symbiosis. One is that the hare is nocturnal and feeds by night; another is that the hare's gestation period is one month long. And, it was believed that a rabbit could change its sex—like the moon. 3 Alice in Wonderland - rabbits & more There are many similarities between the two narratives. Donnie falls asleep, and hears, then sees Frank, a 6-foot tall rabbit-costume wearing being. Alice's summer slumber brings a vision of a talking rabbit wearing human adornments. Frank tells Donnie to follow him, & leads Donnie to a golf course. Alice chases her rabbit, following him right down the rabbit hole. Character introduction and water/metal symbolism aside, the golf course/rabbit hole relation seems obvious. Like Alice's rabbit, Frank acts as Donnie's guide in the mad world of the "underground". (This aspect is suggested by Donnie's poem.) Alice's rabbit is a servant of the Queen / Frank is a being manipulated by the master force. Alice and Donnie are similar in their confusion and curiousity, both are desperate to figure out what is happening to themselves. Also... eat me/drink me similar to Donnie's pills, both characters are changing lifeforces -- Alice grows tall / shrinks, Donnie grows stronger & superhuman-like when he's sleepwalking. These physical changes give solution to the current dilemma the character is facing, but also cause feelings of isolation and fear. And... The mirror imagery of Donnie's bathroom communion place with Frank is similar to Through the Looking Glass.  Some good stuff in there and connections to Egypt, which is always good, since we have forgotten about the symbols on the the counter, when everything turned nasty, in season one finale.  So are we thinking that we have to follow the white rabbit or the when the rabbit is seen that there is a rebirth of something on the island. I don't know what but I am sure it will be found out soon hopefuly.  ____(OO=[II]=OO)___ (O=0000=O) Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes. After that, who cares? ...He's a mile away and you've got his shoes.
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White rabbits are a sign of fertility! That's quite interesting 
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And rabbits are good for checking sonic fences are off.  ____(OO=[II]=OO)___ (O=0000=O) Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes. After that, who cares? ...He's a mile away and you've got his shoes.
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And attempting to scare the toughness out of Sawyer 
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quote: Originally posted by Black Horse: The idea that vincent is evil come from the fact that when ever some one was going to die they would be seen with vincent just prior to their death! The website is funny
Does it mean that ANYTIME someone is seen with Vincent, they'd die soon after? 'Cos I just re-watched a few episodes of season 2 last night and there was a bit where Vincent comes up to Sawyer and Sawyer feeds him. Or did Vincent spare Sawyer 'cos he gave him his food?  *lol*
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It might be that Jacob has taken the form of the voodoo dog.not only on the island but in the outside world before they were stranded there. Vincent seems look very like the picture in the wooden shack.  The ash that Locke picked up seemed to be that of human ashes (Dust to dust) so this could be the collective of the people that we know as the whisperers. WHAT! speak up. The others they don't seem to age as Ben clearly has.  ____(OO=[II]=OO)___ (O=0000=O) Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes. After that, who cares? ...He's a mile away and you've got his shoes.
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quote: Originally posted by torrycoo:
The ash that Locke picked up seemed to be that of human ashes (Dust to dust) so this could be the collective of the people that we know as the whisperers. WHAT! speak up.
Ohhhhh! Nice idea! 
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Locke: ‘Bring me the man from Tallahassee‘. What is that? Some kind of code? Ben: No, John, unfortunately we don't have a code for, 'there's a man in my closet with a gun to my daughter's head’. Although...we obviously should.
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I thought that (not trying to take credit or anything) but then I thought that if they burn all the bodies why have that pit of skeletons that Locke ended up in as well?
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Unless the burnt ash ones are the ones on 'the list' ?
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The hostiles were there the same time as the dharma people but were in some kind of love hate thing going on. The hostiles could in fact be (this is where it may get wild) some kind of protector of what ever the ash is. It could be when you die on earth this is where your bodies soul goes in coporal form. Said this before and makes more sense after the last eppy. What I am talking about is Guardian  s and the  is taking his fair share of the bad souls with the BSM  ____(OO=[II]=OO)___ (O=0000=O) Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes. After that, who cares? ...He's a mile away and you've got his shoes.
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quote: It might be that Jacob has taken the form of the voodoo dog.not only on the island but in the outside world before they were stranded there. Vincent seems look very like the picture in the wooden shack.
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quote: Originally posted by torrycoo: just researching Rabbits as in white rabbits here is some reading if you want.  • Life, healing, clear-sightedness, gentleness / Luck; trust; love; friendship; fear; evasion / Rabbit symbolism concerns the Moon (Intuition). • The rabbit represents humility, because he is quiet and soft and not self-asserting. -- Black Elk Chinese tradition says that people born under the sign of the Rabbit possess intelligence, wisdom, and understanding. After turbulent Tiger years, Rabbit years are times of diplomacy and gentle persuasion. Emphasis is placed on human rights and helping the underprivileged. Activities dealing with healing and medicine will flourish. An excellent judge of character, they are difficult to deceive. 1 • Older than Christianity, the symbolism of the hare is thus a celebration of life's continuation with rebirth, as in each spring, and the rabbit expresses hope that life will be renewed, and better than before. • The nocturnal rabbit, signifying the moon who dies every morning and is resurrected every evening, also represents the rebirth of nature in spring. Both the moon and the rabbit were believed to die in order to be reborn. Therefore the hare is a symbol of immortality. In Egypt, Osiris, god of the dead, was sacrificed to the Nile each year in the form of a hare to guarantee the annual flooding Egyptian agriculture depended upon. Although the hare is not a symbol for Christ some analogy might be made to Christ who was sacrificed in the form of a man for the feeding of God's people. To Buddhists the hare is a symbol of self-sacrifice. Legend says this creature threw itself into a fire in order to feed Buddha when he was starving. As a reward, it was given a new home in the moon. Because of its fertility (one doe can produce 42 young a year), the rabbit or hare is an emblem of fertility, abundance, good fortune, sexuality, lasciviousness, lust, procreation, puberty, renewal, spring, rampant growth, excess, and love gods and goddesses such as Venus, Aphrodite, and Cupid. Pliny the Elder even prescribed its meat as a cure for female sterility. The white hare sometimes found at Mary's feet represents her triumph over lust or the flesh. Because it signifies abundance, the rabbit is sometimes used in western countries as a harvest or fall symbol. It also stands for madness and the month of March. The rabbit's alertness and speed made it a Christian symbol of vigilance and the need to flee from sin and temptation. Like the lion, the hare was believed to be so vigilant that it slept with its eyes open. Its flesh was contaminated with wakefulness and could cause insomnia in its eater. Its speed was a reminder of the swift passage of life. ...The rabbit's burrow is a symbol of Christ's tomb.....The rabbit's trembling makes it a symbol of cowardice and timidity. However, Judeo-Christian writings recommend a holy trembling before the Lord. [1 Chr 16:30; Ps 96:9, 99:1, 114:7; Is 19:1, 66:2; Jer 5:22, 33:9] The writer of Philippians warns the Christian to "work out your own salvation with fear and trembling." [Phil 2:12] In Medieval times, cowardice was personified with drawings of an armed man running from a hare. On the other hand, in Africa and the Americas, the hare was believed to be a trickster using its superior intellect as its defense. Some tribes considered him a hero and even the earth's creator. Aztecs believed 400 rabbits guarded their fields. 2 - If we consider the phases of the moon in its waxing (masculine) and waning (feminine), and accept the notion that the moon at full intensity is the Destroyer of Darkness or, as Hillard says, "sign of new life and the messenger of immortality," we can appreciate the honored position to which the rabbit has ascended..... A number of explanations account for this hare/moon symbiosis. One is that the hare is nocturnal and feeds by night; another is that the hare's gestation period is one month long. And, it was believed that a rabbit could change its sex—like the moon. 3 Alice in Wonderland - rabbits & more There are many similarities between the two narratives. Donnie falls asleep, and hears, then sees Frank, a 6-foot tall rabbit-costume wearing being. Alice's summer slumber brings a vision of a talking rabbit wearing human adornments. Frank tells Donnie to follow him, & leads Donnie to a golf course. Alice chases her rabbit, following him right down the rabbit hole. Character introduction and water/metal symbolism aside, the golf course/rabbit hole relation seems obvious. Like Alice's rabbit, Frank acts as Donnie's guide in the mad world of the "underground". (This aspect is suggested by Donnie's poem.) Alice's rabbit is a servant of the Queen / Frank is a being manipulated by the master force. Alice and Donnie are similar in their confusion and curiousity, both are desperate to figure out what is happening to themselves. Also... eat me/drink me similar to Donnie's pills, both characters are changing lifeforces -- Alice grows tall / shrinks, Donnie grows stronger & superhuman-like when he's sleepwalking. These physical changes give solution to the current dilemma the character is facing, but also cause feelings of isolation and fear. And... The mirror imagery of Donnie's bathroom communion place with Frank is similar to Through the Looking Glass.  Some good stuff in there and connections to Egypt, which is always good, since we have forgotten about the symbols on the the counter, when everything turned nasty, in season one finale.  So are we thinking that we have to follow the white rabbit or the when the rabbit is seen that there is a rebirth of something on the island. I don't know what but I am sure it will be found out soon hopefuly.
____(OO=[II]=OO)___ (O=0000=O) Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes. After that, who cares? ...He's a mile away and you've got his shoes.
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