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Originally posted by torrycoo:
Ahh memories of my youth Cow tipping must be one of the craziest things i've seen.

I'm fine Yoda have you fully recovered from the weekend
Give us a call you have to see some helos at lossie

Thats not funny! I was pretty Bingoed that nite MWAHAHAHA! You tried sheep tipping? Its much more funny..they bounce hehe

OOOOO HELO's..mmm you going up intae one? Coz im well gunna do it! haha.

But on another note..Back to Vincent who we havent seen much of late. I am begining to wonder about that dog and more importantly Walt! I still think he will make an even more important return. However even though i would like to discuss what hes all about it takes two dnt you think torry

So wots ur thots my master

No we don't do sheep tipping people might get the the wrong idea especialy the sheep

Walt could be totally fictious it could be that the main players are all sitting in a room all connected Matrix style running some kind of wierd experiment and Walt is an outside technician communicating with them though there thoughts.

Good idea Torry. Thought of that before when they were recruiting Juliet but then thought they wouldnt do it as it be very cheap to rip Matrix off but then again you never know.

I's just that the way that Walt came back to Locke in a vision either as Walt himself doing a remote viewing thing or it could of been the smoke monster doing it's thingy and morphing into images of people again.

just researching Hades and this came up QI
In older Greek myths, Hades is the misty and gloomy abode of the dead, where all mortals go. There is no reward or special punishment in this Hades, akin to the Hebrew sheol. In later Greek philosophy appeared the idea that all mortals are judged after death and rewarded or cursed.

There were several sections of Hades, including the Elysian Fields (contrast the Christian Paradise or Heaven), and Tartarus, (compare the Christian Hell). Greek mythographers were not perfectly consistent about the geography of the afterlife. A contrasting myth of the afterlife concerns the Garden of the Hesperides, often identified with the Isles of the Blessed, where the blest heroes may dwell

In the Fortunate Isles, also called the Isles (or Islands) of the Blessed heroes and other favored mortals in Greek mythology and Celtic mythology were received by the gods into a blissful paradise. These islands were thought to lie in the Western Ocean near the encircling River Oceanus; the Madeira, the Canary Islands, and Cape Verde have sometimes been cited as possible matches.

Flavius Philostratus Life of Apollonius of Tyana says "And they also say that the Islands of the Blessed are to be fixed by the limits of Libya where they rise towards the uninhabited promontory." In this geography Libya was considered to extend westwards through Mauretania "as far as the mouth of the river Salex, some nine hundred stadia, and beyond that point a further distance which no one can compute, because when you have passed this river Libya is a desert which no longer supports a population."

Plutarch, who refers to the "fortunate isles" several times in his writings, locates them firmly in Atlantic geography in his vita of Sertorius, who, when struggling against chaotic civil war in the closing years of the Roman Republic, had tidings from mariners of certain islands a few days' sail from Hispania

"where the air was never extreme, which for rain had a little silver dew, which of itself and without labour, bore all pleasant fruits to their happy dwellers, till it seemed to him that these could be no other than the Fortunate Islands, the Elysian Fields"[

Pliny's Natural History adds to the obligate description— that they "abound in fruit and birds of every kind"— the unexpected detail "These islands, however, are greatly annoyed by the putrefying bodies of monsters, which are constantly thrown up by the sea seem

Oh and one of the interesting things is that there is mention of a helmet that makes the wearer invisible, could be those damn whispers in the jungle

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Pliny's Natural History adds to the obligate description— that they "abound in fruit and birds of every kind"— the unexpected detail "These islands, however, are greatly annoyed by the putrefying bodies of monsters, which are constantly thrown up by the sea seem

Oh and one of the interesting things is that there is mention of a helmet that makes the wearer invisible, could be those damn whispers in the jungle

...and an explanation for the hurley bird perhaps?

We will have to wait and see my friend

Wonder if ole Vincent will appear a bit more in S4?? I, for one, would like to see him more than we did in S3.

Vincent rocks

I was jus a thinkng bou that GIANT FOOT!! hehe.

ok not oneof my stangest post starts ever but yes the FOOT!

Sorry back to the point. That foot we saw has kind of dissappeared into the back ofour memoirs dont you think. I dont even think we cae up with a reasonable explinationaly did we..

The foot was a big WTF moment but they never went back to investigate and as far as I know Sayid never mentioned it to the losties

I don't think he has Torry. You'd think he'd mention something like that, wouldn't you? It's not everyday you see a giant foot statue with only four toes.

I hope that we get some kind of explanation for it though, maybe in a flashback or if the Losties decide to investigate it.

I think there is a foiler/spoiler mentioning they will re-visit the foot!

Oh good

That is good to hear BH, I wonder if the Temple will be there. I am thinking the answer is yes
I still think that the statue is that of Anubis
the dog of the underworld

I was searching though the tinernet for statues that were over the entrances to temples
And I found this > Asclepius was a Greek hero who later become the Greek god of medicine and healing. The son of Apollo and Coronis, Asclepius had five daughters, Aceso, Iaso, Panacea, Aglaea and Hygieia. He was worshipped throughout the Greek world but his most famous sanctuary was located in Epidaurus which is situated in the northeastern Peloponnese. The main attribute of Asclepius is a physician's staff with an Asclepian snake wrapped around it; this is how he was distinguished in the art of healing, and his attribute still survives to this day as the symbol of the modern medical profession. The cock was also sacred to Asclepius and was the bird they sacrificed as his altar.
The mother of Asclepius, Coronis, was a mortal, the daughter of Phlegyas, a king of Thessaly. Coronis was unfaithful to Apollo, and Artemis, Apollo's twin sister, killed her for her unfaithfulness. Coronis was placed upon a funeral pyre. (One version says that Apollo cast her into the fires of his own anger.) As her body started to burn, Apollo felt sorrow for his unborn son and snatched the child Asclepius from his mother's corpse, saving him from death. Apollo then handed Asclepius to the Centaur Chiron who became his tutor and mentor.
Chiron taught Asclepius the art of healing. According to Pindar (Pythian Odes), Asclepius also acquired the knowledge of surgery, the use of drugs, love potions and incantations, and according to Apollodorus (the Library), Athena gave Asclepius a magic potion made from the blood of the Gorgon. Legend tells that the blood of the Gorgon has a different effect depending from which side the blood was taken. If taken from the right side of the Gorgon, it has a miraculous effect and is said to be able to bring the dead back to life, but taken from the left side it is a deadly poison.
With these gifts Asclepius exceeded the fringes of human knowledge. However, he offended the great god Zeus by accepting money in exchange for raising the dead. (In one version it was the goddess Artemis who implored Asclepius to resurrect Hippolytus, a favourite of hers.) In the eyes of Zeus, Asclepius' action upset the natural order of the universe - a mere mortal helping man evade death. With one swift action, the great Zeus sent down a thunderbolt killing both men. (In some versions Zeus only killed Asclepius.)
Realising the good Asclepius had brought to man, the great Zeus made him into a god, placing him among the stars, transforming Asclepius into the constellation Ophiuchus (the serpent-bearer). The snake was used in the healing ritual; non-poisonous snakes were left in the dormitory where the sick slept overnight on the bare ground.
The cult of Asclepius became very popular during the 300s BCE and the cult centres (known as an Asclepieion) were used by priests to cure the sick. Invalids also came to the shrines of Asclepius to find cures for their ailments (in the same fashion pilgrims visit Lourdes today.) The process of healing was known as incubation. The patient would spend the night in a dormitory. During the night they would supposedly be visited by the god in a dream. This could be what happened to Locke. Priests would interpret the dreams and then recommend a remedy or give advice on how they could be cured with perhaps a recommended visit to the baths and gymnasiums. There were many centres and schools of medicine, from Trikkis in Thessaly to the island of Cos. It is believed that Hippocrates, a great doctor of antiquity, plied his trade on the island of Cos. It is also said that Hippocrates was a descendant of Asclepius.
Also Asclepius is linked to Imhotep the Egyptian healer it could be the connection that we have seen with the Apollo bars and the Hieroglyphics we saw in the Swan hatch.

And the Staff hatch which is directly related to Asclepius was a Greek hero who later becomes the Greek god of medicine and healing.
I read somewhere that the Greek gods only had four toes but I can't find any thing to back this up
Onyway it was just a thought just look out for snakes on the floor of the temple and this Theory may have some substance
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Nice find Torry.

I'm definitely feeling the whole Egyptology / Greek mythology vibe in Lost.

MWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

time for your medication mr yoda

I was searching tinternet and found this quite interesting
A nice piece of information about the Swan and about Death and the insuring game play that we are seeing in lost. Possible links and just an Idea that the losties are playing a game for their life back off the island.
One of my more recent thoughts (whilst in the bath) is the island is the grim reaper with the black smoke watching them to see if they are ready to cross over.
Here is some light reading.
In Nassim Nicholas Taleb's definition, a black swan is a large-impact, hard-to-predict, and rare event beyond the realm of normal expectations. Taleb regards many scientific discoveries as black swans—"undirected" and unpredicted. He gives the September 11, 2001 attacks as an example of a Black Swan event.
The term black swan comes from the ancient Western conception that 'All swans are white'. In that context, a black swan was a metaphor for something that could not exist. The 17th Century discovery of black swans in Australia metamorphosed the term to connote that the perceived impossibility actually came to pass.
Also the film Sjunde inseglet, Det known also as THE SEVENTH SEAL about a Knight and his squire are home from the crusades. Black Death is sweeping their country. As they approach home, Death appears to the knight and tells him it is his time. The knight challenges Death to a chess game for his life. The Knight and Death play as the cultural turmoil envelopes the people around them as they try, in different ways, to deal with the upheaval plague. To his dismay, he discovers that Death (Bengt Ekerot) has come for him too. In order to buy time he challenges Death to a chess match, which allows him to reach his home and be reunited with his wife after ten years away. According to film historian Gerald Mast, Blok challenges Death to a game of chess, knowing the inevitable result but obviously playing for time. The knight's faith is war-weathered, and this theme is stressed in one of the scenes in the movie: the knight gives confession to a priest about his doubts whether God actually exists, he tells the priest how he challenged death to a game of chess and reveals his strategy, only to find that the "priest" is actually Death. The movie has very Kierkegaardian themes on death and meaning (see Kierkegaard on despair) and thus it is quite existential. In another powerful scene of a witch burning, the knight is asked by his squire whether he sees in the victim's eyes God or a vacancy. The disquieted knight refuses to acknowledge the victim's and, in a way, his own emptiness despite his doubts about God. The knight realises that he would rather be broken in faith, constantly suffering doubt, than recognise a life without meaning.
A classic film it’s quite Heavy going though, a must for any one wanting a film to use for there media studies.

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