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I think richard Alpert will be forseen as a more important figure than Ben next season.

Also, if michael does come back, the writers are gonna have to do some awsome script writing for Michael to prove his redemption. Im all for it! Big Grin


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the Island's history is going to be a central theme for season four Ninja


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I'm getting spoiler withdrawal symptoms Razz


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Right then, bored. No one is talking, nuffink is happening.

They are gonna start shooting S4 of Lost in a few weeks time. So, lets take a look at the spoilers so far, and see if anyone can come up with any answers/theories/speculation about what they can mean, yeah? Give us somat to do eh?

Ok, the main spoilers (as decided by me, coz I am the only one here Ninja )

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1) Ben was not the only member of DHARMA who joined the others

So, who else?? My money is on Patchy - but why? Presumably he wasnt at Othersville when "The Purge" happened - but then, neither was Kelvin, he remained in the hatch, but no one went and killed him. Wonder how much Kelvin knew??



2) What happened to Annie is another chapter of Ben's story that will be seen at some point.

I wonder if she and Ben did, erm, eugh, get together and she was one of the first to die in childbirth?? Maybe thats why Ben is so obsessed with this issue, when Richard appears to think there is something so much more important on the agenda.



3) Danielle Rousseau may pop up in another character's flashback.

ooh ooh ooh, that is gonna be great!!! I wonder if its gonna be Sayid, he seems the closest to her? Wasnt he in France during his last flashback



4) There will be a Rousseau flashback eventually. In it, it will talk about Montand and his arm.

There seems an obsession with arms!! MOntand and Candle lost theirs, Juliet and Jack dislocated theirs. Vincent carried Roger's to Hurley.... dunno what I am saying here!!



5) Claire's psychic and his visions for Claire and her baby's future will be revisited.

Yawn. We need a yawning smilie! Na, seriously, Claire needs somat to make her character more interesting, hopefully this will be it!



6) We will see more of Michael and Walt

So, dya reckon they will be in the "real world" and helping a rescue team, or have never really left the island at all?



7) The AICN stuff about flash-forwards and flash-backs is true. It will be roughly split in half,the flash-forwards will tell a story culminating with how we saw season 3 end. That doesn't necessarily mean just Jack and Kate get off the island, but whatever flash-forwards we see will culminate with Jack deciding they have to go back and trying to convince Kate.

Who else dya reckon gets off of the island. I reckon.....Sawyer, Jin & Sun at least...



8) Rousseau isn't telling the truth about her experience on the island

This would suggest she IS telling the truth about how she got there, but is more closely connected to either the others or some other others whom we have yet to meet. Hmmmm So her apparant willingness to be on the Losties side must have an alterior motive....



9)You won't be able to tell right away that what arrives in the ship is bad news, but it absolutely is

Oooh, so they are gonna play along with being a rescue ship, but the second Dessie gets hold of them, surely the game will be up? I dunno, maybe the losties wont care who they are if they can get them off of the island..



10)Jacob has already been cast...that person is a person who already worked on Lost, but you have never heard that person's voice and I don't think you ever will. I don't know that you're ever going to see that person clearly."

So we will never hear or see him!! Brilliant role, talk about money for nothing!!! But he has already worked on Lost!! Grrrr, this is the most annoying spoiler of all



11) The days of the Others as a culture is numbered. But Ben's days aren't because he is a great one for making adjustments. He knows enough things and has access to enough information which will help him keep his head above water.

So, the others are buggered. Are they gonna have to rely on the Losties now to help them out? Doesnt seem likely, unless they can convince Jack et al that the people on the ship are a worst fate than them! Glad Ben is gonna hang around, the others wouldnt be the same without him

Anyone got any other thoughts???


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You won't be able to tell right away that what arrives in the ship is bad news, but it absolutely is


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Dont you think its weird that this sentence says "what" arrives in the ship as opposed to "who" arrives in the ship!!?? Maybe I am reading too much into it Ninja


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maybe it'll be the T rex from jurassic park two


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Ooooh, you could be right there James Big Grin


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Hey smokey!

I dont think that kelvin would have been there at the time of the purge. if you think of the time when Sayid met Kelvin in Iraq, that shurley wasn't 20 years ago was it? sayid was young, but it was during the gulf war wasnt it?

I like your annie theory, could be evidence of why Ben was so crazed to kidnapp alex and claim her as a child.

If rousseu is telling the truth about her time on the island then she couldnt possibly show up in sayids flashback. After Paris he went to London and then sydney and then the plane. she might appera in a rose or bernard flashback. they are old and its been rumoured that they have an awsome story coming up.

Thank god claire and aarons story is continuing, i want to know why aaron is special. the psycic told claire that her alone must raise the baby. This could be connected to charlies death, maybe the island knew he was getting too involved and unleashed the grim reaper. desmond was the balance to this equation.

More later when im awake Big Grin


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Thank god claire and aarons story is continuing, i want to know why aaron is special. the psycic told claire that her alone must raise the baby. This could be connected to charlies death, maybe the island knew he was getting too involved and unleashed the grim reaper. desmond was the balance to this equation.


i don't think it was like that, i thinks its less that the baby had to be raised by claire alone, i think that the island was a better place because he would be raised by claire and charlie and jack and sun and locke, etc, they've all had some input


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I know, im thinking way too deep. Maybe they were brought there so that Aaron would bond a great connection with his uncle jack. otherwise they would probably never meet.


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They are gonna start shooting S4 of Lost in a few weeks time. So, lets take a look at the spoilers so far, and see if anyone can come up with any answers/theories/speculation about what they can mean, yeah? Give us somat to do eh?

Ok, the main spoilers (as decided by me, coz I am the only one here Ninja )

----------------------------------------------

1) Ben was not the only member of DHARMA who joined the others

So, who else?? My money is on Patchy - but why? Presumably he wasnt at Othersville when "The Purge" happened - but then, neither was Kelvin, he remained in the hatch, but no one went and killed him. Wonder how much Kelvin knew??

another spoiler says we are gonna get to meet more 'Other' others in S4 Wink I think that these will be ex-dharma peeps that we meet at the Temple...including ben's young girlfriend perhaps! So as well as them i agree patchy looks VERY dharma like and follows orders to the T.


2) What happened to Annie is another chapter of Ben's story that will be seen at some point.

I wonder if she and Ben did, erm, eugh, get together and she was one of the first to die in childbirth?? Maybe thats why Ben is so obsessed with this issue, when Richard appears to think there is something so much more important on the agenda.

Ewwww indeed! Great theorising Smokey Wink...yep if she is dead then that would be a real reason and a good lead into how 'they' discovered the pregnancy problems. Either that or the BSM killed her?

3) Danielle Rousseau may pop up in another character's flashback.

ooh ooh ooh, that is gonna be great!!! I wonder if its gonna be Sayid, he seems the closest to her? Wasnt he in France during his last flashback

OH OH OH again, great thinking smokster. I would also like her flashback to be the one where they took her daughter. if indeed this is the case? Ninja We also know from another spoiler that she has her own one that involves her killing her crew!!!!


4) There will be a Rousseau flashback eventually. In it, it will talk about Montand and his arm.

There seems an obsession with arms!! MOntand and Candle lost theirs, Juliet and Jack dislocated theirs. Vincent carried Roger's to Hurley.... dunno what I am saying here!!

he he heeee arms and eyes


5) Claire's psychic and his visions for Claire and her baby's future will be revisited.

Yawn. We need a yawning smilie! Na, seriously, Claire needs somat to make her character more interesting, hopefully this will be it!

I am hoping that the psychic will add more evidence to the Loop theory with this being a flashback.flahforward type episode

6) We will see more of Michael and Walt

So, dya reckon they will be in the "real world" and helping a rescue team, or have never really left the island at all?

I think this will be in the 'real' world and we will find them floating about near to the 'rescue' ship in some distress with no water and no food. i think Walt will get in touch by telepathy or his powers to warn the Losties that the boat is hostile perhaps???


7) The AICN stuff about flash-forwards and flash-backs is true. It will be roughly split in half,the flash-forwards will tell a story culminating with how we saw season 3 end. That doesn't necessarily mean just Jack and Kate get off the island, but whatever flash-forwards we see will culminate with Jack deciding they have to go back and trying to convince Kate.

Who else dya reckon gets off of the island. I reckon.....Sawyer, Jin & Sun at least...

I am not sure why they would want to set a whole series centering just on Kate and Jack flashforwards? There was another spoiler that said they are ALL having them? could be a foiler? Anyhoo, this is a question again on who survices to the end isn't it. And as i said before my mioneys on Locke and Hurley BUT that does not mean they get off the island or in fact that ANY of them do including jack and Kate. Horsey has gone Loopy again...never ending story...

8) Rousseau isn't telling the truth about her experience on the island

This would suggest she IS telling the truth about how she got there, but is more closely connected to either the others or some other others whom we have yet to meet. Hmmmm So her apparant willingness to be on the Losties side must have an alterior motive....

I have always thought she lies... Ninja

9)You won't be able to tell right away that what arrives in the ship is bad news, but it absolutely is

Oooh, so they are gonna play along with being a rescue ship, but the second Dessie gets hold of them, surely the game will be up? I dunno, maybe the losties wont care who they are if they can get them off of the island..

Could be a new lot of Dharma guys coming to see what happened to all their guys long ago and an island WAR developing...WHOS SIDE DO THE LOSTIES CHOOSE??? Eek

10)Jacob has already been cast...that person is a person who already worked on Lost, but you have never heard that person's voice and I don't think you ever will. I don't know that you're ever going to see that person clearly."

So we will never hear or see him!! Brilliant role, talk about money for nothing!!! But he has already worked on Lost!! Grrrr, this is the most annoying spoiler of all

But very clever. It just re-iterates that the writers have always known where they were going and have indeed cast a member very close to their best kept 'expensive' secrets.

11) The days of the Others as a culture is numbered. But Ben's days aren't because he is a great one for making adjustments. He knows enough things and has access to enough information which will help him keep his head above water.

So, the others are buggered. Are they gonna have to rely on the Losties now to help them out? Doesnt seem likely, unless they can convince Jack et al that the people on the ship are a worst fate than them! Glad Ben is gonna hang around, the others wouldnt be the same without him

like i said i think they are gong to have to choose sides...

Anyone got any other thoughts???


Thabnk you smokey for makling this thread more intriguing Wink


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Yey People to talk to!! Big Grin

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"Jacob has already been cast...that person is a person who already worked on Lost, but you have never heard that person's voice and I don't think you ever will. I don't know that you're ever going to see that person clearly"

Could this be someone from the lost experience???
As far as the show goes we have never seen or heard some of characters included in there...


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Thats a good idea fatefound! Could be......

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SOME NEWS FROM THE GUY WHO PLAYS BEN
# Jacob has been cast, is somebody that has worked on LOST, but we have not heard them speak and we may never see him speak. He could remain in the shadows. (reinforcing my theory that Jacob is Jack Bender.)
# The freighter is not connected to Dharma.
# There is still more to learn about Ben's background. Man Behind the Curtain was just a sketch.
# The conflict between the hostiles and Dharma will be explored more in season 4.
# Emerson believes the 'hostiles' were a separate research group who have assumed the Dharma work.
 
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a-hem monster man please post your extra spoilers here too....Wink


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A few new bits and pieces...

Ruby in Antwerp, Belgium: Any scoop on Lost?
Executive producer Carlton Cuse and line producer Jean Higgins appeared at the LATV Festival last week, and E! Online spoke with them exclusively, getting answers to your questions. As for the for the future of the show in general, here's what Carlton had to say: "Some people speculated that [going forward] the show will be set in the future and then flashbacks to the present, but no, we aren't changing any of the format of the show. We are just adding the flash forwards as an element. They have made a radio call to a freighter, and there are people on that freighter, and it might be logical to imagine that that storyline will continue... The situation is going to be very intense this year. Charlie wrote on his hand not Penny's boat, and the message he wrote on his hand was very important. It was really funny because [ the clip at Comic-Con showed] Mr. Friendly saying, 'by the time you see this, I'm gonna be dead, but I am telling you it's a shame because whoever is going to come after the Others is going to be a hell of a lot worse than we ever were.' Damon and I were listening to him and sort of nodding our head going, 'That's pretty prophetic.' "

John in Spokane, Washington: There are rumors of a new Lost set being built along the lines of a temple or ruins. Have you heard anything?
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