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Originally posted by Greenjack:
Bring back the Stewarts!

bring back Macbeth!

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Originally posted by Morse:
bring back Macbeth!

Ah but he was a usurper!!!!!!!!

Bring back Cnut !

All our flooding problems solved

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Originally posted by N E Juan:

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Originally posted by Morse:
bring back Macbeth!

Ah but he was a usurper!!!!!!!!

In reality, his rule brought peace and unity to Scotland. In addition, he was a well educated man and statesman.

Malcolm Canmore with his English queen was the usurper!!!

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Originally posted by Greenjack:
Bring back Cnut !

All our flooding problems solved

ROFLMAO!

Bring back Alfred as then there would benore more problems with school dinners!

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Originally posted by Morse:
Malcolm Canmore with his English queen was the usurper!!!

how do you come to that conclusion?

Malcolm III was the son of Duncan I (1034-1040). It was after Duncan's death that first Macbeth and then Lulach usurped the crown.

Your contention on Macbeth's reign really is stretching creditability a lot. It is Malcolm III that is credited, rightly, with bringing order to Scotland and setting up an effective administrative system.

As for his "english queen" that would be saint Margaret of Scotland who just happens to be a direct ancestor of mine so a little more reverence please reverend!!!! LOL

Any views on the "current heir to the Stuart line" Prince Michael of Albany?
(sensible answers only please )

PS, Morse, please excuse my ignorance but what is

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ROFLMAO!

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PS, Morse, please excuse my ignorance but what is

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ROFLMAO!

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Roll on the floor laughing my a*** off!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Greenjack:
Any views on the "current heir to the Stuart line" Prince Michael of Albany?
(sensible answers only please )QUOTE]

Michael la Fosse AKA Prince Michael is a proven fake. The jacobite heir is Prince Francis, Duke of Bavaria.

Thanks JE

Do you have any good links/referrences to back up both statements in your post?
I am not doubting you, just genuinely interested.

Greenjack,

You may find this a useful starting point

http://www.chivalricorders.org/royalty/fantasy/stuart.htm

There is also much discussion of Michael on the alt.royalty talk pages if you can access them.

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Originally posted by N E Juan:
Greenjack,

You may find this a useful starting point

http://www.chivalricorders.org/royalty/fantasy/stuart.htm

There is also much discussion of Michael on the alt.royalty talk pages if you can access them.

Thanks Juan
This is a good site.

To go back to Macbeth - he was one of the best. He reigned for 17 peaceful and productive years. Sure, he was a usurper but his cousin Duncan (who was the same age as Macbeth, not Shakespeare's hoary old man) had run Scotland into the ground with foreign wars and lack of care of his country in only six years of reign.There was a coup, Macbeth was its leader. You could say that Malcolm should have been grateful for a peaceful kingdom on his accession.

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Originally posted by Bretwalda:
The problem with programmes like this is where one takes a starting position from. It could be argued that "Britain's real monarch" should be the descendants of the old Wessex line of Edgar the Atheling. But wait a minute, William the Conqueror won the throne of England by conquest and was indisputedly England's real monarch.

Don't think Edgar had any children, however Elizabeth II is descended from his sister Margaret who married Malcolm Canmore of Scotland and his niece Edith who married Henry I of England. So the current monarch is descended from the old Saxon royalty.

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Originally posted by N E Juan:
Greenjack,

You may find this a useful starting point

http://www.chivalricorders.org/royalty/fantasy/stuart.htm

There is also much discussion of Michael on the alt.royalty talk pages if you can access them.

Canny believe the British Goverment gave him a passport will all his documents under the name Prince Michael of Albany if his claims are false

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Originally posted by warney600:

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Originally posted by N E Juan:
Greenjack,

You may find this a useful starting point

http://www.chivalricorders.org/royalty/fantasy/stuart.htm

There is also much discussion of Michael on the alt.royalty talk pages if you can access them.

Canny believe the British Goverment gave him a passport will all his documents under the name Prince Michael of Albany if his claims are false

If you read the small print on passports and official documents it says that they are issued in the names given to them and that a document issued in any particular title does not give credence to that title. This is explained somewhere on the site i mentioned, if i recall correctly. Thus Michael la Fosse may have a passport using the title but it is a self awarded one that is not officially recognised.

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Originally posted by N E Juan:

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Originally posted by warney600:

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Originally posted by N E Juan:
Greenjack,

You may find this a useful starting point

http://www.chivalricorders.org/royalty/fantasy/stuart.htm

There is also much discussion of Michael on the alt.royalty talk pages if you can access them.

Canny believe the British Goverment gave him a passport will all his documents under the name Prince Michael of Albany if his claims are false

If you read the small print on passports and official documents it says that they are issued in the names given to them and that a document issued in any particular title does not give credence to that title. This is explained somewhere on the site i mentioned, if i recall correctly. Thus Michael la Fosse may have a passport using the title but it is a self awarded one that is not officially recognised.

You are missing what I am saying here, The British Goverment I am sure would love to prove That Michael is not who he says he is, The documentaion which Michael has used to get his Passport I am sure would have been checked double checked then went through with a fine tooth comb
If he was then issued with that Passport I am taking then thats his documentation are correct
I know Michael and too be honest canny see what he has to gain by saying who he says he is as sure when Scotland get Independence and if it goes to the vote Scotland will vote for a republic and not a monarchy
He has Scotalnd at heart and does great speaches on this and sure if you ever meet him you may change your mind

Well that is a Fantasy Royalty website. Just about sums it all up.

There is nothing in British law to prevent anyone adopting a title, whether it be Lord, Lady or even Prince.

You just have to put up with the rest of us laughing at your pretension.

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Originally posted by Fil2:
Well that is a Fantasy Royalty website. Just about sums it all up.

There is nothing in British law to prevent anyone adopting a title, whether it be Lord, Lady or even Prince.

You just have to put up with the rest of us laughing at your pretension.

Glad I am giving you all a great laugh

I wasn't aware you'd adopted a phoney title.