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quote: Originally posted by Greenjack: quote: Originally posted by Mweusi: quote: But these are all sculptures, mainly in monochrome. The paintings on papyrus show mainly pale brown skinned people.
Sculptures are still considered Art aren't they??? they properly depict features... wonder why the noses were all chopped off..hmmm
Lots of prominent features got knocked off sculptures usually because they stuck out. In fact the longer they are the more this is likely, so not necessarily a feature that supports your argument. However, I will concede that if they are from north africa then yes, they are african, just not particularly negroid as the nubians were.
Cheers GJ
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Not Negroid features do you know how much it will upset people knowing the first people on this earth were negroid, they never built anything or had any empires, I hope you realise this, your upsetting the apple cart here.  And I for one think it's funny!
"It Is Impossible To Defeat An Ignorant Man In Argument."
"Never Converse With An Idiot, For Someone May Walk By And Not Know Who The Idiot Is".!
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quote: Originally posted by Greenjack: quote: Originally posted by Greenjack: quote: Originally posted by Mweusi: quote: But these are all sculptures, mainly in monochrome. The paintings on papyrus show mainly pale brown skinned people.
Sculptures are still considered Art aren't they??? they properly depict features... wonder why the noses were all chopped off..hmmm
Lots of prominent features got knocked off sculptures usually because they stuck out. Funny that isn't it you would think they would be able to avoid knocking features off when it comes to history that darn wind and rain, that nose must of really stuck out strange though it was originally flat. In fact the longer they are the more this is likely, so not necessarily a feature that supports your argument. No if thats the case why believe anything about history.The wind came and blew your nose off. No if thats the case why believe anything about history.The wind came and blew your nose off.However, I will concede that if they are from north africa then yes, they are african, just not particularly negroid as the nubians were. Why is it so hard to give negroes that dont look like you, any credit your history lessons at school were truely flawed and I will concede that I went through the same system.
"It Is Impossible To Defeat An Ignorant Man In Argument."
"Never Converse With An Idiot, For Someone May Walk By And Not Know Who The Idiot Is".!
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quote: Originally posted by Greenjack:
Funny that isn't it you would think they would be able to avoid knocking features off when it comes to history that darn wind and rain, that nose must of really stuck out strange though it was originally flat.
In fact the longer they are the more this is likely, so not necessarily a feature that supports your argument.
No if thats the case why believe anything about history.The wind came and blew your nose off.
No if thats the case why believe anything about history.The wind came and blew your nose off.
However, I will concede that if they are from north africa then yes, they are african, just not particularly negroid as the nubians were
Why is it so hard to give negroes that dont look like you, any credit your history lessons at school were truely flawed and I will concede that I went through the same system.
"It Is Impossible To Defeat An Ignorant Man In Argument."
"Never Converse With An Idiot, For Someone May Walk By And Not Know Who The Idiot Is".!
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BEFORE HISTORY THERE WAS BLACK HISTORY Very odd statement, how can a colour be attributed to a narrative? Maybe I shouldn't be trying to converse with an idiot 
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Bwana Daktari
How about..
Before His-Story, there was African History.
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quote: Originally posted by Dr Jones: Maybe I shouldn't be trying to converse with an idiot
You shouldn't converse with anyone you constantly derail threads as can be seen by most of your post on the news forum, if indeed they are still there. 
"It Is Impossible To Defeat An Ignorant Man In Argument."
"Never Converse With An Idiot, For Someone May Walk By And Not Know Who The Idiot Is".!
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Sorry guys, still not convinced. But Mweusi, that last link, much more promising  BTW what's all this "wind & rain" nonsense? that sort of damage is either as you say deliberate or could be just rough handling. My kids toys loose all the bits that stick out.
Cheers GJ
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quote: Originally posted by Greenjack: Sorry guys, still not convinced. But Mweusi, that last link, much more promising  BTW what's all this "wind & rain" nonsense? that sort of damage is either as you say deliberate or could be just rough handling. My kids toys loose all the bits that stick out.
well were not here to convince you.. just to tell you as it is. Don't really want to comment about your kids losing all the bits that stick out  and yes i thought you would appreciate the African Features... from Diversity comes Beauty Had some other links but they were removed 
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BTW on a similar thread, check out "mitochondrial eve". We all probably trace back to a common female (mitochondrial eve) who lived in Africa about 150,000 years ago. Did a bit of digging into egyptian royalty. There are other theories that they trace their ancestry back to ancient sumeria.
Cheers GJ
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quote: Originally posted by Greenjack: BTW on a similar thread, check out "mitochondrial eve". We all probably trace back to a common female (mitochondrial eve) who lived in Africa about 150,000 years ago.
Did a bit of digging into egyptian royalty. There are other theories that they trace their ancestry back to ancient sumeria.
Yep study was carried out by national geographic knew about it.. East Africa, cradle of mankind and all that, that's beem known from early 50's and taught in schools all over the African Continent, thats not news. Oh.. about the Ancient Egyptians, it doesn't change the fact that there were Black African Nubian Pharoahs, Black African Kushite Pharoahs, and intermarriage between Africans and Arabs has gone on for centuries and is still going on. Plain fact is in my view there is only one race, the Human race and we are all mixed.. i dont all it racial mixing but cultural mixing because in my view culture is what is different not race. what is race anyway  ???
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quote: Originally posted by Mweusi:Plain fact is in my view there is only one race, the Human race and we are all mixed.. i dont all it racial mixing but cultural mixing because in my view culture is what is different not race. what is race anyway  ???
I like your approach Mweusi ! I often refer to my wife as "mixed race" for want of a better term. Perhaps "mixed culture" would be a better one? Also, irrespective of what colour they were, I think we owe a lot to the ancient egyptians & sumerians. I suspect there is much more "hidden" history here too.
Cheers GJ
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quote: Originally posted by Awakened One: Oh dear not another attempt in persuading people that the pharaohs were black?
Oh dear not another narrow minded poster
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The Pharaohs ruled Egypt over many centuries. These Pharoahs would have had north mediterranean features at some stages, negro features at another stage and also European features at the final stage, post Alexander the Great.
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They were black Pharaohs
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quote: Guile Posted 25-03-06 08:36 They were black Pharaohs
---------------------------- They don't call me Staby Mc Jo for nothing
Who were?
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quote: Originally posted by Dr Jones: Race: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RaceYou appear to be getting race mixed up with species.
Once again Bwana Daktari you prove my point, there is no sceintific evidence to prove race, it is just mans way of trying of classify Human beings, and was also corrupted to segregate the same human beings, from your link! quote: Conceptions of race, as well as specific racial groupings, vary by culture and time
quote: scientists have rejected the view of race according to which a number of finite lists of essential characteristics could be used to determine a like number of races.
classify people according to physical differences?  quote: However, such distinctions tended to merge differences defined by features such as skin color, with tribal and national identity. Classical civilizations from Rome to China tended to invest much more importance in family or tribal affiliations than in physical appearance stills boils down to the differences in culture! Like i said.. what is this Race thing? Shikanga's Portal
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