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K B
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If you read that bit of Mein Kampf is was actually the zionists who persuaded Hitler that you can't be both a German and a Jew along with their separate (self-declared) racial identity - which lead to Jewish persecution. If it had been otherwise we would have seen German jews in the SS happily shooting and gassing slavs.
 
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Blimey! A talking horse!


neigh... a typing horse...


Special hooves


Or a really big keyboard?
 
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and anti-semites blamed the jews just like the Jews have always been used as a scapegoat thoughout the years.


If you buy into this version of history ... you'd think it would have been jews who were shackled in ships and transported to the Americas as slaves - rather than being plantation and slave owners.

It took the Jewish Board of Deputies in South Africa 77 years to condemn Apartheid - 77 years and its collapse.
 
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No its not the Nazis wanted the Arabs to destroy Israel, as part of Hitlers final solution.So in effect the Nazis were using the Arabs.


But Israel hadn't been created until after Hitlers' death. Confused
 
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“Say what you will about the tenets of National Socialism, dude, at least it’s an ethos”.

...& some of the uniforms were really smart.
 
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If it had been otherwise we would have seen German jews in the SS happily shooting and gassing slavs.


as opposed to what we actually saw which was Muslim and Palastinian SS soldiers happily shooting and gassing jews. Roll Eyes
 
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It took the Jewish Board of Deputies in South Africa 77 years to condemn Apartheid - 77 years and its collapse.

A policy that only existed for 46 years?
 
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If you read that bit of Mein Kampf is was actually the zionists who persuaded Hitler that you can't be both a German and a Jew along with their separate (self-declared) racial identity - which lead to Jewish persecution. If it had been otherwise we would have seen German jews in the SS happily shooting and gassing slavs.


Thats just BS. Hitler would say that wouldn't he? The fact is that German Jews were very loyal to Germany. It was Hitler who was blaming the Jews and the communists for all the ills of Germany after the treaty of Versailles, if you go back to the original post of this thread.
 
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If it had been otherwise we would have seen German jews in the SS happily shooting and gassing slavs.


as opposed to what we actually saw which was Muslim and Palastinian SS soldiers happily shooting and gassing jews. Roll Eyes

Palestinian SS? Fiction.
 
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If it had been otherwise we would have seen German jews in the SS happily shooting and gassing slavs.


as opposed to what we actually saw which was Muslim and Palastinian SS soldiers happily shooting and gassing jews. Roll Eyes


When did that happen? The Stern gang tried to make a pact with Hitler in 1941... that's in the conviently forgotten facts of history...
 
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Anti-apartheid violence tore South Africa apart throughout the ‘70s and ‘80s. In 1980,
after 77 years of neutrality, South Africa’s National Congress of the Jewish Board of
Deputies passed a resolution urging "all concerned [people] and, in particular,
members of our community to cooperate in securing the immediate amelioration and
ultimate removal of all unjust discriminatory laws and practices based on race, creed,
or colour." This inspired some Jews to intensify their anti-apartheid activism, but the
bulk of the community either emigrated or avoided public conflict with the National
Party government. - Ed Stoddard, Reuters, June 12, 1998
Shimoni, a Hebrew University of Jerusalem history professor and former South
African comments on Jews in apartheid:
“We were participants of racial discrimination… We were part of the privileged few.”
 
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No its not the Nazis wanted the Arabs to destroy Israel, as part of Hitlers final solution.So in effect the Nazis were using the Arabs.


But Israel hadn't been created until after Hitlers' death. Confused


No but they the Nazis visited Palestine or Adolf Eichman did, and were sending Jews to then Palestine.LINK

So the nazis must have known by surrounding jews immigrated from Europe to Palestine, they must have known by sorrounding them by Arabs there would be all the ingredients for a big fight and they must have thought that the Arabs would win. The Arabs thought they would win also.
 
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If it had been otherwise we would have seen German jews in the SS happily shooting and gassing slavs.


as opposed to what we actually saw which was Muslim and Palastinian SS soldiers happily shooting and gassing jews. Roll Eyes


When did that happen? The Stern gang tried to make a pact with Hitler in 1941... that's in the conviently forgotten facts of history...


And the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem actually did make a pact with Hitler

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In his memoirs after the war, Husayni noted that "Our fundamental condition for cooperating with Germany was a free hand to eradicate every last Jew from Palestine and the Arab world. I asked Hitler for an explicit undertaking to allow us to solve the Jewish problem in a manner befitting our national and racial aspirations and according to the scientific methods innovated by Germany in the handling of its Jews. The answer I got was: 'The Jews are yours'.'[44]
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If you read that bit of Mein Kampf is was actually the zionists who persuaded Hitler that you can't be both a German and a Jew along with their separate (self-declared) racial identity - which lead to Jewish persecution. If it had been otherwise we would have seen German jews in the SS happily shooting and gassing slavs.


I've read some hideously untruthful things in my time but this one stinks on so many levels Buck, it beggars belief.

I suggest that instead of delving into Mein Kampf merely to twist text to say untruthful things re German Jews, you read some relevant history books.

Pay particular attention to the contribution of the German Jews in WW1 and also you should be aware that the Kriegsmarine during WW2 did not remove many of its Jewish officers or ones with Jewish ancestry. In fact the captain of the Bismarck had a grandmother who was Jewish.

So I suggest you get your facts straight the jews did not single themselves out, it was Mr Hitler who after the Treaty of Versailles looked for a convenient scapegoat, the rest is history.
 
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Adolf Hitler on Zionism, writing in Mein Kampf.

Zionism = the jewish Nazism

or vice-versa.

nationalist/socialist/racially based/lebensraum in Palestine/ethnic cleansing/Dier Yassin/the Lydda death march

45 Muslim states, I jewish state. Lebensraum, I don't think so.
 
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If you buy into this version of history ... you'd think it would have been jews who were shackled in ships and transported to the Americas as slaves - rather than being plantation and slave owners.

It took the Jewish Board of Deputies in South Africa 77 years to condemn Apartheid - 77 years and its collapse.
Where did you get 77 from? Apartheid was only 46 years old before it was abolished.
 
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If you buy into this version of history ... you'd think it would have been jews who were shackled in ships and transported to the Americas as slaves - rather than being plantation and slave owners.

It took the Jewish Board of Deputies in South Africa 77 years to condemn Apartheid - 77 years and its collapse.
Where did you get 77 from? Apartheid was only 46 years old before it was abolished.

You could arg5ue, it never really finish6ed, at least in economic terms.
 
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If you read that bit of Mein Kampf is was actually the zionists who persuaded Hitler that you can't be both a German and a Jew along with their separate (self-declared) racial identity - which lead to Jewish persecution. If it had been otherwise we would have seen German jews in the SS happily shooting and gassing slavs.


wow. Craziest interpretation of history I've ever seen. Mazel tov!
 
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If it had been otherwise we would have seen German jews in the SS happily shooting and gassing slavs.


as opposed to what we actually saw which was Muslim and Palastinian SS soldiers happily shooting and gassing jews. Roll Eyes


When did that happen? The Stern gang tried to make a pact with Hitler in 1941... that's in the conviently forgotten facts of history...


to save Jews. And the nazis ignored them. so what?
 
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No its not the Nazis wanted the Arabs to destroy Israel, as part of Hitlers final solution.So in effect the Nazis were using the Arabs.


But Israel hadn't been created until after Hitlers' death. Confused


No but they the Nazis visited Palestine or Adolf Eichman did, and were sending Jews to then Palestine.LINK

So the nazis must have known by surrounding jews immigrated from Europe to Palestine, they must have known by sorrounding them by Arabs there would be all the ingredients for a big fight and they must have thought that the Arabs would win. The Arabs thought they would win also.


where in that link does it say Eichmann visited Palestine?
 
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