quote:Are you at the stage where you watch S5 and think how Marcus would've fitted into the episode?
And your story isn't helping. If S5 comes out,and when I'm watching it I find myself thinking "Yeah, but I actually like Crazy's version better", then I will seek and destroy! You have been warned.
I prefer my version- but thats because I brought back the lumati ambassidor and have Ivanova banging her head against walls (C'mon, the ragged edge has next to no B story!). And no Tracy Scoggins- ERGH!! If you prefer my version I'll go into hiding...I'll emigrate to Minbar where you can't find me. (Wait a mo, I just told you where Im going!- Stupid Ranger!)
I'm having problems writing for Zac....he keeps sounding like Kenicky or Bobby from Taxi !!!
Marcus is far too easy to write for. Just let him talk- he picks on the strangest things to talk about though... but thats what grounds these charecters. The fact that not every conversation is about the end of the world...Its about Socks, Fastening or Zipping, Gardens and four posters, and CATS!
My favourite line of yours for Marcus so far is "Do you like Buddy Holly?" Partly beause it's a great Marcus line, and partly because I came within a gnat's whisker of having him say the same thing in Enemy Territory.
Zack's a bit of an everyman really. Every show's got one. It means he can interact on some level with everybody, but it can mean he's hard to get a line on as an individual.
quote:God I love this show- only wish i'd written it!!
Don't we all! But hard luck, you'll just have to write another one!
Did I say Buddy Holly- I thought it was Bob Dylan. Oh well, both talented, one dead. But I like Dylan better-.
You nearly had a line like that- (Que twilight zone music). Weird- but what would they talk about in hyperspace? With Marcus being present- you KNOW they had to talk about something... and probably nothing relivant.
Everyman Zac...Zac Everyman...I may have to use that name in something!!!
How'd you write something as good as B5- not only that- how the hell do you get it made! It's next to miraculous (And JMS knows this) That B5 got made- let alone had its five year run! Mostly on TV people just don't have the patience to wait more than one episode to see an event unfold- let alone 5 years! Then you tie it up with Mythology and Biblical references, work out the structure of other cultures...Ideologies of war... bloody hell It's so big! I don't know that I could do that. But Joe had "Faith Manages." I have "Should I take a degree in creative writing? Am I gonna be sitting on street corners in 10 years flogging pages to anyone who passes?". However I turn back to JMS for reassurance: "Every time I sit down behind the keyboard, I'm thoughly convinced that this is the one where everybody figures out that I've only been pretending to be a writer all these years..."-
I suppose even he had doubts. But that doesn't make me feel any better!
As for good Marcus lines I've written..my favorite so far would be..."I AM NOT BEING DEFENSIVE!" But thats way down the road...(I've been working on this AU for about a year now... It'll probably be another 2 before I finish it!!)
I like the line you had about dying in enemy territory...Something along the lines of...hold on..."You are?" He made a face. "Not greatly happy about it myself, if I'm honest, but each to their own."- that made me laugh. It was very Marcus. Anyway...I need to have another Go at No comprimises while the house is empty.
Dylan's good, but only when it's not him performing his stuff! And only if you ignore 'I Ain't Gonna Work On Maggie's Farm No More', surely a contender for worst song ever written. Ever. Ever! At least Buddy Holly could sing! And he got snuck into an episode of Quantum Leap once, which was cool.
Yes, Joe certainly created something impressive. No reason why somebody else shouldn't, though! Mind you, in a world where Angel can get axed, and Big Brother be shown practically twenty four hours a day, it does make you wonder. He got so lucky though. Dark Skies, The Visitor, VR.5 - all roughly of the same vintage, all impressively different. And all axed after one season. He says he never lost faith in getting it done, but a lot of that has got to be pure stubbornness. Sheer bloody-mindedness! And good on him.
What about knocking on heavens door? C'mon, no-one does that better- not even guns'n'roses! And whatabout "The hurricane?"...I admit I like the Byrds version of "Times they are a'changing" better. But I was thinking of Knockin' on heavens door when I was writing that part- I was gonna have Marcus in his voidlike limbo hearing that- but it was a little too cracked for my liking.
Yeah- makes you wonder why its always the sci-fi that gets axed. Shouldn't the studio execs have learnt from cancelling Star Trek- The franchise that almost wasn't! Maybe we should make a treatment and send it to the BBC...make our own as nearly everything good but star gate has passed on...No x-files, No buffy, No Angel, Treks loosing it...the only comfort is Dr Who's coming back!
Yes, but I'm losing faith in the new DW every week. Chants desperately: I will not write it off yet. I will not write it off yet...
Knocking On Heaven's Door is good, although I kinda prefer the Clapton version. Hendrix did the definitive All Along The Watchtower. I quite like the original of Mr Sandman though. Good old Dylan, hey. Where would would-be guitarists be without his songs to strum?!
quote:Shouldn't the studio execs have learnt from cancelling Star Trek- The franchise that almost wasn't!
You know, the fact that Star Trek didn't die is the cause of half the problems for sci-fi TV in the States. It has such a stranglehold. The spin-offs, the awe with which writers regard it, and seem to refer to it constantly. It would have been a much better thing for originality in American TV sci-fi if Star Trek had stayed where it fell back in... '71 was it?
yeah- but you watch the original trek (I picked up a couple of episodes a few weeks ago) And you really watch them- if you can see past the bad acting, the "S"FX...It was brilliant. Is there one person on the planet whos seen "City on the edge of forever" and not been affected by it greatly? TNG managed that a few times- but not really in DS9 or Voyager... and Enterprise..I can't latch on to the idea of it...Everytime I switch on Enterprise I wish I were watching B5.
Don't write off Dr Who yet! Remember- "Faith Manages"!
As for trek falling and originality- One supposes. The thing that peeved me off about DS9 was that they went from episodic to attempted saga very quickly- and considering the B5/DS9 rumours it doesnt look very good!
And Mr Dylan- yes okay- one of the few things I can play on the guitar is Bob Dylan!
quote:Is there one person on the planet whos seen "City on the edge of forever" and not been affected by it greatly?
Yeah. Me! I found DS9 much more effective. They certainly jumped on the story arc bandwagon pretty quickly (everybody did in the nineties) but I think they did some pretty cool things nonetheless. Wish I could remember some individual episode titles, but there was one really outstanding one from (I think) the final season, when a handful of the regulars were pinned down at a little soldier outpost. It was trench warfare stuff, totally removed from your usual American TV sci-fi. Very impressive. TOS never impressed me at all. Every time it showed any sign of nearly being good, McCoy ruined it by being so high and mighty all the damn time. Or Kirk ruined it just by being there!
quote:one of the few things I can play on the guitar is Bob Dylan!
Everybody can play Dylan. He writes really simply constructed songs. It's the folk thing I suppose. Makes them great for students and wandering protesters! And you were right - it was "Do you like Bob Dylan" that Marcus said. Buddy Holly must have been what I was going to have him say. Don't know why. It was that damned shuttle flight in Enemy Territory. (Thinks) Next time, remind me not to say that the flight is going to be 36 hours long... Sod realism!
You back from your choir singing yet Elenopa? How did it go?
You lot have been busy in the last week. The singing was good. Learnt some new stuff and sung some really great familiar ones. Things that you can only do with a BIG choir and a BIG organ in a cathedral with a great echo. Today we did 'I saw the Lord' by Stainer. It's a sing loud most of the way, unless you are being spooky; double choir; full stops on the organ; top A blast the windows type of anthem.
Feet hurt, but then it's all the standing in the choir stalls thinking about the notes.
I also took my laptop and did some writing, so I should have the next part of my story out soon.
Who said they hated Arthur Ransome? Walk the plank right now!
Ranger Elenopa,
You can get more with a kind word and a two by four, than you can with just a kind word.
Did you sing 'And The Rock Cried Out No Hiding Place'?! I'm assuming no Bob Dylan or Buddy Holly.
I think I'm up to Parliament Of Dreams in my S1 rewatching, so I'm going to go and watch that now, and try not to spend the time wondering what Marcus was up to. Oh, and small piece of advice. Don't anybody go watching Soul Hunter anytime soon. Made that mistake myself just the other day. Stephen gazing out into space, mulling over the fleeting existence of the human life, is pretty depressing.
And now Andy Hallett is ill. I shall start developing a complex about coming here first thing on a Sunday morning.
quote:Originally posted by Mickey: I did! And I do! Arthur Ransome books are boring!
When did you last read one?
I suppose I had better not mention that my team won the 'Dick Callum Cup' quiz this year. I know far too many obscure facts from the books, but then I could say the same about B5.
Ranger Elenopa,
You can get more with a kind word and a two by four, than you can with just a kind word.
In about... (thinks hard)... well, about some time in the nineties anyway, when I last unearthed my copy of Swallows And Amazons. I seem to remember quite enjoying Coot Club and The Big Six, which I read when I was very small, but the others left me cold. I preferred proper adventures. Proper pirates, not just kids mucking about on a river! My mother is an insanely dedicated Arthur Ransome devotee, though. She has pretty much a full set of hardbacks from about 1950 or before.
Question. In A Sky Full Of Stars, why is Unnamed Minbari Visitor so anxious to kill Sinclair? Where is the logic in this?! They discover Sinclair has Valen's soul, and may even be Valen, so they free him and end the war. To stop Sinclair realising, they now want to kill him?! This will in no way completely screw up their entire history.
Question. In A Sky Full Of Stars, why is Unnamed Minbari Visitor so anxious to kill Sinclair? Where is the logic in this?! They discover Sinclair has Valen's soul, and may even be Valen, so they free him and end the war. To stop Sinclair realising, they now want to kill him?! This will in no way completely screw up their entire history.
the minbari knew that he was a decentant of valen as is deleen,but we did not know he was valen until war without end, and then it was only delenn who knew first by the letter she recieved.So to answer your question the minbari did not know
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I is not enought to live you have to have something to live for
JMS has said in the past that they did know, though. Or that some of them did. That they more than had their suspicions, which is why they made sure Sinclair had command of B5, and why they sent Delenn there as ambassador to watch him. But I guess it was a nice little dramatic insert, which was probably the main consideration!
Mickey - Does your Mother want to join TARS? Website here
You want proper pirates? Try 'Peter Duck' and 'Missee Lee'.
Anyway, back to B5. I have just discovered that Richard Biggs was completely deaf in one ear and partialy deaf in the other. You wouldn't know if you had met him.
Ranger Elenopa,
You can get more with a kind word and a two by four, than you can with just a kind word.
On Dead Ringers? It did? when where? explain- knew I should have stuck to my plan and come back here right away instead of going boozing!!
I didn't know rick was deaf- but its not uncommon...my dads partially deaf in both ears, he refused to wear hearing aids for years...in the end mum refused to talk to him and he gave in. Kind of worried about my hearing actually- but its probably sinus related.
Yeah- I thought about the Minibar wars. Now i'll never be able to take the hall for cornwall seriously!!! Damnation!
Found an enterprise action figure earlier- though about buying but My marcus and Stephen would just beat him up. Settled on a Gimli to keep Aragorn, Brego, Boromir and my three ringwraiths company.
Has anyone seen my missing post? It's still not here! I am going to be accused of sedition or something? Quite scared still. Doesn't help that I was dreaming about the apocalyspe last night! I'm sure it's really exam stress.
We've all had messages Disappeared by the Powers That Be, Crazy. It's nothing to worry about. Some word you used triggered the automatic response unit. The message will never be seen again.
You've got action figures! I love the Marcus one; it looks so impressively unlike him, it's as if the makers did their damnedest to get it as different as possible. "Well, we could make a little man that looks like Marcus... or we could get one that doesn't, wrap him in chequered cloth, and see if anybody is fooled." The twelve inch one is even more impressively unlike him than the really little one.
So. Mind War. Felicity Waterman's acting just doesn't get any better, does it. She was in the first ever episode of my beloved Thunder In Paradise (I cheerfully wave the flag as the world's only Thunder In Paradise fan) and she was really, really bad in that. But in Mind War she really takes the biscuit. Maybe it's 'cause in Mind War she doesn't have Hulk Hogan to spread the bad acting around a bit.
Yeah- the figures not so good is it? Not when you see the weird likeness between frodo figures/elijah wood. Those are scary!
God, mind wars so cool! Besters not that great in it but.... "Good ol' Psi-corp, all the moral fibre of Jack the ripper, what do you do for fun? Juggle babies over burning pits of fire?"--Classic Ivanova! It doen't get much better than that!
Must sleep, very tired...damn minibars coming from everywhere! "IF I'M GOING OUT I'M TAKING YOU BASTARDS WITH ME!"
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Chants desperately: I will not write it off yet. I will not write it off yet...
Walk the plank right now!