Nurses are to be rated according to the levels of care and empathy they give to patients under a new initiative to raise standards in the NHS, it has been revealed.

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Woot - more league tables.

Surely compassion is varies person to person.

If I were in hospital and just wished to be left alone would a mark down a nurse for fussing too much?

And how many people will be employed at what cost to administer this nonsense? And the money spent would save how many lives?

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The compassion index will be compiled by health regulators using surveys of patients' views while in hospital, including feedback about the attitude of staff.

Yeah... patients in hospital are so in a position to give honest opinions. Not.

Money for anything but drugs - again.

What is this - some sort of mind control of the nurses?

Insulting to them and the public.

To nurses because it turns them into a smiling automaton who is supposed to be devoid of all emotion, except for pleasure in the work she does.

To the public it arrogantly assumes we want an American-type "Have a nice day" service from nurses seeing to our needs - done with smile on their face.

What happens to cranky reports from patients who are in a lot of pain, from their basic condition, and are therefore angry no matter what a nurse tries to help ease them.

It's also a very subjective thing, difficult to put a numerical number on so I expect evaluations to vary greatly depending on whoever is doing the assessing.

Will there also be a rating that nurses can conduct on patients so we can see how obnoxious some can be?

Since my nurse-partner was punched in the face by a male patient, I have had little sympathy with grasping 'me me me' patients.

A lot of nurses forget about consent when approaching a patient to carry out a procedure and also basic observations of body language as well as the mental state of the patient. Then blame the patient for assault.

an anxious person can spot fakeness and other unpleasant behaviour a mile off.

can we start this scheme on MP's first?

Whoopee!! Yet another political "initiative".
Problem made. Problem solved. A New Labour speciality!!!
Yippee!! More spending on the health service. (on bureaucrats and paperwork, not services or doctors and nurses).
Perhaps as a previous post suggested, we should have a time and motion study done on MPs first, as if this is the best they can come up with for a struggling (thanks to them), NHS, is it any wonder no-one takes notice of MPs any more?
(Has anyone been told the cost of setting up yet another mountain of bureacracy when what the NHS needs like a hole in the head is more "experts" telling real people who KNOW what is wrong with the NHS, that they need to "smile please"
What another example of New Labour ineptness and buffoonery!!

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A lot of nurses forget about consent when approaching a patient to carry out a procedure and also basic observations of body language as well as the mental state of the patient. Then blame the patient for assault.

Perhaps the patients should ask 'consent' before they start punching the lights out of staff nurses.

I assume you are going to apply this logic to muggers as it is obviously the mugee's fault for not taking into account the mental state of the mugger.

How about rapists and murderes?

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A lot of nurses forget about consent when approaching a patient to carry out a procedure and also basic observations of body language as well as the mental state of the patient. Then blame the patient for assault.

Perhaps the patients should ask 'consent' before they start punching the lights out of staff nurses.

I assume you are going to apply this logic to muggers as it is obviously the mugee's fault for not taking into account the mental state of the mugger.

How about rapists and murderes?

Come on. Let's be fair about this. If a nurse starts to stich the face of criminals (brought in by the police having been involved in violent activities) and fails to get the consent of the patient to do so then, quite frankly, she deserves a good beating. How dare they infringe the human rights of these thugs?

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A lot of nurses forget about consent when approaching a patient to carry out a procedure and also basic observations of body language as well as the mental state of the patient. Then blame the patient for assault.

which is why, Dandini, Trusts now insist on mandatory training on conflict resolution for their staff to prevent this happenin.
But of course I am sure that you are aware of this - being the resident expert

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Originally posted by smiley cat:

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Originally posted by dandini:
A lot of nurses forget about consent when approaching a patient to carry out a procedure and also basic observations of body language as well as the mental state of the patient. Then blame the patient for assault.

which is why, Dandini, Trusts now insist on mandatory training on conflict resolution for their staff to prevent this happenin.
But of course I am sure that you are aware of this - being the resident expert

Might be better to teach the nurses Kung Fu. Conflict resolution will not stop a fist that comes from behind a closed curtain as you walk past a bed...

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Originally posted by The Magnetist:

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Originally posted by smiley cat:

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Originally posted by dandini:
A lot of nurses forget about consent when approaching a patient to carry out a procedure and also basic observations of body language as well as the mental state of the patient. Then blame the patient for assault.

which is why, Dandini, Trusts now insist on mandatory training on conflict resolution for their staff to prevent this happenin.
But of course I am sure that you are aware of this - being the resident expert

Might be better to teach the nurses Kung Fu. Conflict resolution will not stop a fist that comes from behind a closed curtain as you walk past a bed...

sadly there are courses for NHS staff in self defense - and when I say sad, I mean it in the sense that isn't it a shame that it has come to this?

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Originally posted by smiley cat:

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Originally posted by The Magnetist:

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Originally posted by smiley cat:

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Originally posted by dandini:
A lot of nurses forget about consent when approaching a patient to carry out a procedure and also basic observations of body language as well as the mental state of the patient. Then blame the patient for assault.

which is why, Dandini, Trusts now insist on mandatory training on conflict resolution for their staff to prevent this happenin.
But of course I am sure that you are aware of this - being the resident expert

Might be better to teach the nurses Kung Fu. Conflict resolution will not stop a fist that comes from behind a closed curtain as you walk past a bed...

sadly there are courses for NHS staff in self defense - and when I say sad, I mean it in the sense that isn't it a shame that it has come to this?

The problem with many patents and their families is they treat nurses as slaves rather than professionals.

I don't know why nurses bother. I also don't know why any low-paid health worker bothers.

My partner has been told she will not get overtime or time in lieu for any of the extra time she has to work to satisfy the needs of the system. Seeing as that is at least an hour a day every day (and what she does at home) then I do not know why she bothers either... Especially as she has 24hr accountability and the power of life and death in her (easily suable_) hands

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Originally posted by The Magnetist:

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Originally posted by smiley cat:

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Originally posted by The Magnetist:

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Originally posted by smiley cat:

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Originally posted by dandini:
A lot of nurses forget about consent when approaching a patient to carry out a procedure and also basic observations of body language as well as the mental state of the patient. Then blame the patient for assault.

which is why, Dandini, Trusts now insist on mandatory training on conflict resolution for their staff to prevent this happenin.
But of course I am sure that you are aware of this - being the resident expert

Might be better to teach the nurses Kung Fu. Conflict resolution will not stop a fist that comes from behind a closed curtain as you walk past a bed...

sadly there are courses for NHS staff in self defense - and when I say sad, I mean it in the sense that isn't it a shame that it has come to this?

The problem with many patents and their families is they treat nurses as slaves rather than professionals.

I don't know why nurses bother. I also don't know why any low-paid health worker bothers.

My partner has been told she will not get overtime or time in lieu for any of the extra time she has to work to satisfy the needs of the system. Seeing as that is at least an hour a day every day (and what she does at home) then I do not know why she bothers either... Especially as she has 24hr accountability and the power of life and death in her (easily suable_) hands

presumerably she is a ward manager which is the most thankless task in the health service.
I know cos I recently stopped being one - thank god.
And I agree - the nurses are the front liners and we get blamed from all angles - patients, relatives, doctors, other staff...... it always comes back to us

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Originally posted by smiley cat:

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Originally posted by The Magnetist:

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Originally posted by smiley cat:

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Originally posted by The Magnetist:

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Originally posted by smiley cat:

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Originally posted by dandini:
A lot of nurses forget about consent when approaching a patient to carry out a procedure and also basic observations of body language as well as the mental state of the patient. Then blame the patient for assault.

which is why, Dandini, Trusts now insist on mandatory training on conflict resolution for their staff to prevent this happenin.
But of course I am sure that you are aware of this - being the resident expert

Might be better to teach the nurses Kung Fu. Conflict resolution will not stop a fist that comes from behind a closed curtain as you walk past a bed...

sadly there are courses for NHS staff in self defense - and when I say sad, I mean it in the sense that isn't it a shame that it has come to this?

The problem with many patents and their families is they treat nurses as slaves rather than professionals.

I don't know why nurses bother. I also don't know why any low-paid health worker bothers.

My partner has been told she will not get overtime or time in lieu for any of the extra time she has to work to satisfy the needs of the system. Seeing as that is at least an hour a day every day (and what she does at home) then I do not know why she bothers either... Especially as she has 24hr accountability and the power of life and death in her (easily suable_) hands

presumerably she is a ward manager which is the most thankless task in the health service.
I know cos I recently stopped being one - thank god.
And I agree - the nurses are the front liners and we get blamed from all angles - patients, relatives, doctors, other staff...... it always comes back to us

She was a Sister but gave it up as it was just not worth the small increase in pay when compared to the stress she had.

Despite this she is still trying to do everythings. I have told her she reminds me of the horse (Boxer?) in Animal Farm that was taken for glue when it was worn out.

aww magnetist what a sad analogy and I know exactly what you mean.However there are areas of nursing that are not like that. I hope she finds one soon.

thank you for your kind words. I just feel that I am living with a victim of 'shell shock'. I hope she will be able to escape to a better job but I will not hold my breath as many of the other places she has visited have been as bad or worse.

however, the general public will not care as long as they get whatthey think is coming to them at any cost to those who still strive to 'hold the line'.

I have to say that my partner is the most professional professional I have ever met. I try to shield her by 'listening' but I can only do so much. I wish the public ould care just for a second for those who care for them. However, I doubt that will ever happen.

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